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Jet blue apologizing, WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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steppinthrax

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The title is not suggesting in any way that jet blue shouldn?t be apologizing but the fact that they are. The thing is that I don?t commonly see companies apologizing for their mistakes. Normally if you watch a news report of a company that did this or that and was so terrible etc?. You will find the company?s rebuttal to either point the finger at someone else or no comment. They will not directly address the blame to themselves even though it is very obvious. When companies make mistakes nowadays it is almost like ?Yes we did it, so what live with it?.
 
Originally posted by: babylon5
Traveling via airplanes in USA sucks now
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Yea you are right. They should go back to horse and carriage. That would really move people around efficiently.
 
Walter E. Williams filling in on the Rush Limbaugh program hit the nail right on the head.

We don?t need a passenger?s bill of rights; we just need to fire the airline.
If an airline can?t do the job in the right way then find one that can, pretty simple.

If I eat at a restaurant I don?t like I don?t ask the government for a dinners bill of rights, I just don?t go there again.

Jet Blue screwed up and they will pay the price.
 
I remember the Republican remark that somehow airlines did not really need a law to say that passengers should not be treated like cattle by airlines. Somehow that point was lost on me.
But as someone who has been victimized by bad weather, there is a certain validity in not blaming airlines---especially when you realize that the federally mandated hub system that normally works well, becomes exactly problem number one when any problems occurs.

Federal regulations simply prohibit airlines from acted logically in event of weather emergencies.
 
Originally posted by: akshatp
Originally posted by: babylon5
Traveling via airplanes in USA sucks now
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Yea you are right. They should go back to horse and carriage. That would really move people around efficiently.
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That doesn't counter his claim that traveling via airplane sucks
 
This is how ridiculous our society has become. We now apologize for the weather.
People went driving in snow storms that drop 10 feet of snow and somehow it is somebody elses fault?

kk
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
This is how ridiculous our society has become. We now apologize for the weather.
People went driving in snow storms that drop 10 feet of snow and somehow it is somebody elses fault?

kk
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Its keeping them on the plane for so long.

Its insane. At least take them back to the terminal where they can walk around get something to eat and use a decent bathroom.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Walter E. Williams filling in on the Rush Limbaugh program hit the nail right on the head.

We don?t need a passenger?s bill of rights; we just need to fire the airline.
If an airline can?t do the job in the right way then find one that can, pretty simple.

If I eat at a restaurant I don?t like I don?t ask the government for a dinners bill of rights, I just don?t go there again.

Jet Blue screwed up and they will pay the price.
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The government is hugely involved in airline regulation. There is no comparison between restaurants and airlines. Use your head.
 
Originally posted by: Kntx
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Walter E. Williams filling in on the Rush Limbaugh program hit the nail right on the head.

We don?t need a passenger?s bill of rights; we just need to fire the airline.
If an airline can?t do the job in the right way then find one that can, pretty simple.

If I eat at a restaurant I don?t like I don?t ask the government for a dinners bill of rights, I just don?t go there again.

Jet Blue screwed up and they will pay the price.
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The government is hugely involved in airline regulation. There is no comparison between restaurants and airlines. Use your head.
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Part of his point was that we need LESS government regulation.
Let the free market decide.

Free market worked for nearly everything else in this country, what makes the airline business different?
 
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: babylon5
Traveling via airplanes in USA sucks now
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When didn't it suck?
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The experience has gotten noticeable worse in the last couple years.
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It's for all of north america. Even little things like snacks are where I've most noticed it. Now you have to go on a 20 hour flight with a domestic carrier to even get a small meal. At least some European carriers still give free booze on international flights, something I havent' had with a domestic one in many years.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Kntx
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Walter E. Williams filling in on the Rush Limbaugh program hit the nail right on the head.

We don?t need a passenger?s bill of rights; we just need to fire the airline.
If an airline can?t do the job in the right way then find one that can, pretty simple.

If I eat at a restaurant I don?t like I don?t ask the government for a dinners bill of rights, I just don?t go there again.

Jet Blue screwed up and they will pay the price.
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The government is hugely involved in airline regulation. There is no comparison between restaurants and airlines. Use your head.
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Part of his point was that we need LESS government regulation.
Let the free market decide.

Free market worked for nearly everything else in this country, what makes the airline business different?
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The biggest difference is that the airlines already have the passengers money so at that point people can't really vote with their feet. Also you can't just get up and leave if you don't like the service on an airplane.

Of course that ignore that fact the their are regulations on the quality of food served at restaurants.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Kntx
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Walter E. Williams filling in on the Rush Limbaugh program hit the nail right on the head.

We don?t need a passenger?s bill of rights; we just need to fire the airline.
If an airline can?t do the job in the right way then find one that can, pretty simple.

If I eat at a restaurant I don?t like I don?t ask the government for a dinners bill of rights, I just don?t go there again.

Jet Blue screwed up and they will pay the price.
Click to expand...
The government is hugely involved in airline regulation. There is no comparison between restaurants and airlines. Use your head.
Click to expand...
Part of his point was that we need LESS government regulation.
Let the free market decide.

Free market worked for nearly everything else in this country, what makes the airline business different?
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To protect people from let's say... being stuck in a plane on the ground for 11 hours?

More generally, flying is an inherently dangerous activity. Government needs to ensure that certain standards are met. A for profit venture cannot be trusted to diligently protect the passenger's interests.

 
Didn't something similar happen a couple of months ago, where they kept them bottled up in a plane for almost twenty hours? It may or may not have been Jet Blue. I haven't been able to find an article on it yet, as all of the news links are only turning up the most recent incident.
 
Originally posted by: Kntx
To protect people from let's say... being stuck in a plane on the ground for 11 hours?

More generally, flying is an inherently dangerous activity. Government needs to ensure that certain standards are met. A for profit venture cannot be trusted to diligently protect the passenger's interests.
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Not true at all.
If planes were dropping out of the sky every day people would stop flying on those airlines. It is in their best interest to have a good safety record.

Remember the Ford Pinto? Once the story got out that it tends to blow up people stopped buying them, the free market at work.

I am not saying we get rid of safety regulations though, I am saying we don't need a passenger bill of rights to protect us. We can protect ourselves by going with another airline.

How much business is Jet Blue going to lose because of this? Or more likely how much money will they lose when they are forced to drop prices to get people to take a chance on them?

However, when ever the government gets involved and start saying which airlines can fly where and how often and what they can charge they take away our ability to choose who we fly with. I?ll be flying to Virginia in a few days and I am picking the cheapest airline and one who also happens to have a great track record. If we still have government regulation as we did in the 70?s I would most likely have to pay more and get less.
 
About free markets: how many airlines are there in the USA, and what are the barriers for entry?

Also, how do routes come into play? Can you really afford to "fire" several airlines?
 
Originally posted by: dna
About free markets: how many airlines are there in the USA, and what are the barriers for entry?

Also, how do routes come into play? Can you really afford to "fire" several airlines?
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Jet Blue is what would happen if Wal-Mart started an airline. 😉

Seriously though, when I first heard about them everyone was gushing about how great this airline was despite their being a "budget" airline. They were on the news, complete with clips showing how they saved money by having the flight crew and pilots help clean the planes up after a flight. Jim Cramer even interviewed their CEO on his radio show. :laugh:

Then, about six months to a year later, it seems they can't even BUY good press.
 
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Didn't something similar happen a couple of months ago, where they kept them bottled up in a plane for almost twenty hours? It may or may not have been Jet Blue. I haven't been able to find an article on it yet, as all of the news links are only turning up the most recent incident.
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It was about 10 hours as well. In Texas I think, thunderstorms.

The problem there was once they get the people off the plane you can not just load them back up again. I don't know if this is due to regulations or difficulty doing it or what, but that was the reason given for leaving them on the runway.
 
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Genx87
This is how ridiculous our society has become. We now apologize for the weather.
People went driving in snow storms that drop 10 feet of snow and somehow it is somebody elses fault?

kk
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Its keeping them on the plane for so long.

Its insane.

At least take them back to the terminal where they can walk around get something to eat and use a decent bathroom.
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:shocked:

You, looking out for the little man???
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Genx87
This is how ridiculous our society has become. We now apologize for the weather.
People went driving in snow storms that drop 10 feet of snow and somehow it is somebody elses fault?

kk
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Its keeping them on the plane for so long.

Its insane.

At least take them back to the terminal where they can walk around get something to eat and use a decent bathroom.
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:shocked:

You, looking out for the little man???
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Dave,

I fly once in a while, and have noticed how service has gotten worse.

The idea of sitting on a runway for hours is absurd. Plus they get all militant / totalitarian on you like if you complain then you are going to Gitmo.

In the winter they have an easier time keeping the plane warm...but in the summer oy vey...it gets HOT.

Does anyone remember the days when there were MULTIPLE beverage services during a four hour flight?

With Northwest last year, we were on a nine hour flight in coach and they only had 2 beverage services and no meal.

It's like, charge 10 bucks extra for the ticket and provide good service.

 
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