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Sounds like a NY/Boston situation.

True, but the adventures were, uhm, endless in Boston 😀
A friend of mine's dad ran local truck routes in Boston. He could get us from point A to B faster than the main roads, but mine friend and I were totally freaking lost afterward.
 
But desert is kinda the definition of "wasteland" (can't be used to grow produce).

Actually it can, you just have to get the water to it. Parts of California, huge chunks of Australia and much of the length of the Nile river are deserts that have been transformed to agriculture. There's a hell of lot more produce growing in the California desert than in Boston and NYC.
 
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Actually it can, you just have to get the water to it. Parts of California, huge chunks of Australia and much of the length of the Nile river are deserts that have been transformed to agriculture. There's a hell of lot more produce growing in the California desert than in Boston and NYC.
Pretty sure you have to add nutrients ...meaning you're adding good soil on top of what was wasteland.
 
Pretty sure you have to add nutrients ...meaning you're adding good soil on top of what was wasteland.

Gosh, you need to add nutrients? Wow!! Thanks for the insight. So farming the desert is just like farming anywhere else. If the world ran on organic farming the world would starve. Everywhere adds nutrients. Hell, you don't even need soil or fresh water. There are huge, productive farms in deserts that use salt water, solar power and no soil at all. 70% of Australia is arid or semi-arid, yet 50% of the country is farmland. Do the math. Soil that looks dead because it gets no water can turn into farmland just by adding water and nutrients. You can essentially grow topsoil and humans have been doing that in deserts for thousands of years. Maybe you missed the memo.

Stop derailing the thread. You can discuss this topic in H&G

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Gosh, you need to add nutrients? Wow!! Thanks for the insight. So farming the desert is just like farming anywhere else. If the world ran on organic farming the world would starve. Everywhere adds nutrients. Hell, you don't even need soil or fresh water. There are huge, productive farms in deserts that use salt water, solar power and no soil at all. 70% of Australia is arid or semi-arid, yet 50% of the country is farmland. Do the math. Soil that looks dead because it gets no water can turn into farmland just by adding water and nutrients. You can essentially grow topsoil and humans have been doing that in deserts for thousands of years. Maybe you missed the memo.
Non-wastelands can grow lush forests or other vegetation without adding nutrients and irrigation. I don't know why he said anything about produce.
 
Gosh, you need to add nutrients? Wow!! Thanks for the insight. So farming the desert is just like farming anywhere else. If the world ran on organic farming the world would starve. Everywhere adds nutrients. Hell, you don't even need soil or fresh water. There are huge, productive farms in deserts that use salt water, solar power and no soil at all. 70% of Australia is arid or semi-arid, yet 50% of the country is farmland. Do the math. Soil that looks dead because it gets no water can turn into farmland just by adding water and nutrients. You can essentially grow topsoil and humans have been doing that in deserts for thousands of years. Maybe you missed the memo.
So because wasteland can be converted (with great effort), the word should be abolished from existence and never used again to refer to dry sandy land? OK.
 
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