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Fanatical Meat

Fanatical Meat

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kage69 said:
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And the classic


 
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lxskllr said:
I've seen one dobson fly in my life. Those things are super creepy. If there was more of them around, I'd move.
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They LOOK like a giant winged earwig with the pincer-things on the front and larger, however just like earwigs they're pretty much harmless to humans.

Note that females and larvae have smaller sharper pincers which are capable of breaking human skin but they carry no venom and are not aggressive.
 
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lxskllr said:
I've seen one dobson fly in my life. Those things are super creepy. If there was more of them around, I'd move.
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The ones I've seen didn't approach that kind of mandible length, they were like half of that at most. They look too fragile to be creepy to me, and I don't think they have attitude (or do they? idk) What irks me is centipedes, those little bastards want to bite you out of sheer curiosity. Not just a bite too, turns into more of a chewing endeavor. Also, epomis beetles - even if they're only interested in frogs. One of those 'damn evolution, this makes you look evil' situations, IMO. Some role reversal. Can you imagine sheep suddenly deciding to cooperatively kill wolves and then devour them? Just, whoa.

I may have linked this before but whatever.

 
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Captante said:
Almost ?!? ;)

(its a pic of a large spider on top of a winged bug it just killed)
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Well I had a few people call bullshit when I told them about the wasps with mantis arms, and another person I know thought this cute little guy was shopped.

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Nature is just so weird, so varied, it's easy for people to both accept or reject the validity of a species immediately based on one (blurry) pic.
 
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kage69 said:
Well I had a few people call bullshit when I told them about the wasps with mantis arms, and another person I know thought this cute little guy was shopped.

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Nature is just so weird, so varied, it's easy for people to both accept or reject the validity of a species immediately based on one (blurry) pic.
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A proud and beautiful creature I must say! ;)


kage69 said:
Köpekler kuralı!

Still a pup I think, maybe a 2 year old? Anatolians, specifically kangals, are treasured in Turkey, and I love seeing how popular they've become with non Turks. Already had my vote.

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Beautiful dog... dumb owner allowing/encouraging that behavior though. Even in play that lady or a kid could accidently get hurt very easily and in America at least that's potentially a death-sentence for your furry friend. (plus a lawsuit)

Akita's also got popular/trendy a few years back and while they can make fantastic dogs for an assertive and experienced owner (much like Kangal's) they are not a wise choice for a new dog owner.

The instant that guy got up above the old lady he should have been (very gently at first) told to get back down on the floor and submit.

Once he wiil do so when told to do so by the old lady AND the owner is not present, THEN its okay to let him play not before. You DO NOT want a dog that size and with his breeding thinking he is "dominant" in the pack over ANY human especially the smaller folks.
 
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Captante said:
Beautiful dog... dumb owner allowing/encouraging that behavior though. Even in play that lady or a kid could accidently get hurt very easily and in America at least that's potentially a death-sentence for your furry friend. (plus a lawsuit)

Akita's also got popular/trendy a few years back and while they can make fantastic dogs for an assertive and experienced owner (much like Kangal's) they are not a wise choice for a new dog owner.
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Puppy indulgence maybe. It's a guardian breed, I don't think those kinds of accidents are an issue. "Omg, Ahmet just showed up unannounced and his dog jumped out of his car, is running around the farm" - that would be an issue. Turkish women in rural areas used to, maybe still do, tether the kid to the dog to keep them safe and nearby while attending to outdoor work. They have amazing instinct, do not require training. In fact, training doesn't work on them well at all because hundreds of years of primitive selection favoring independent, motivated intelligence has made them pretty free thinkers. They are the skeptics of the dog community. Turkish military tried to make them the official dog for the Army back in the 80s I think it was; we don't need to import German Shepherds or Malinois! Well turns out you do if you want a dog with absolute obedience to micromanage. Didn't work out at all. Kangals are used to being a mile away from their boss and having to figure out on their own the best way to do their jobs. They understand that their 2 legged family is in charge - strange canines trespassing are who need to worry.

They are def not for a new dog owner though! They're also not indoor dogs, in fact anyone who can't provide them with open areas to run and animals to protect shouldn't even consider it. You want a companion get a lab. Anatolians want to work.

Anyway.

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kage69 said:
Puppy indulgence maybe. It's a guardian breed, I don't think those kinds of accidents are an issue. "Omg, Ahmet just showed up unannounced and his dog jumped out of his car, is running around the farm" - that would be an issue. Turkish women in rural areas used to, maybe still do, tether the kid to the dog to keep them safe and nearby while attending to outdoor work. They have amazing instinct, do not require training. In fact, training doesn't work on them well at all because hundreds of years of primitive selection favoring independent, motivated intelligence has made them pretty free thinkers. They are the skeptics of the dog community. Turkish military tried to make them the official dog for the Army back in the 80s I think it was; we don't need to import German Shepherds or Malinois! Well turns out you do if you want a dog with absolute obedience to micromanage. Didn't work out at all. Kangals are used to being a mile away from their boss and having to figure out on their own the best way to do their jobs. They understand that their 2 legged family is in charge - strange canines trespassing are who need to worry.

They are def not for a new dog owner though! They're also not indoor dogs, in fact anyone who can't provide them with open areas to run and animals to protect shouldn't even consider it. You want a companion get a lab. Anatolians want to work.
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Training is still effective even with smart/strong-willed dogs its just done differently. Anatolians in that kind of working situation are usually "trained" as much or more by the other dogs in the pack as by the owners.

Never had one myself although I have a lot of hands-on with all different kinds of large dogs including a GSD and a Malamute* I had from puppies. *(who will also look at like you're nuts when being trained lol)

Sadly I don't live in a situation where I could handle one of those big boy Kangal's in a 3rd floor apartment lol! (also no herd for them to guard!)


Anatolian Shepherd Dog - Breed Traits & Characteristics (AKC)
 
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