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Brian Stirling

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I have a Glock 20 10mm and that's more than enough for me. In fact, I'd rather not put more than about 50 rounds through it in a session. Now, my XD Tactical 357sig is sweet and I could shoot that all day. The XD has a much nicer trigger as well.

I can see no reason to have super powerful handguns -- if you want that kind of power a rifle will be more accurate, more powerful, and vastly easier to handle with vastly less chance of the kind of accident waiting to happen as seen in the video.


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Jodell88

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shortylickens

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I have a Glock 20 10mm and that's more than enough for me. In fact, I'd rather not put more than about 50 rounds through it in a session. Now, my XD Tactical 357sig is sweet and I could shoot that all day. The XD has a much nicer trigger as well.

I can see no reason to have super powerful handguns -- if you want that kind of power a rifle will be more accurate, more powerful, and vastly easier to handle with vastly less chance of the kind of accident waiting to happen as seen in the video.

Brian

I have an M1 carbine and it would be all I need in most emergencies.
 

RampantAndroid

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I have a Glock 20 10mm and that's more than enough for me. In fact, I'd rather not put more than about 50 rounds through it in a session. Now, my XD Tactical 357sig is sweet and I could shoot that all day. The XD has a much nicer trigger as well.

I can see no reason to have super powerful handguns -- if you want that kind of power a rifle will be more accurate, more powerful, and vastly easier to handle with vastly less chance of the kind of accident waiting to happen as seen in the video.


Brian

When I'm in the woods and have the risk of a bear or a mountain lion, I want high power...so either my .44mag or my .41mag (about the same power at the muzzle as your 10mm) will go with me. I would *never* take a .45 (or 9mm or 357 sig) thinking it'll kill animals.

I have an M1 carbine and it would be all I need in most emergencies.

My M1 Carbine is the gun I'd rather use for defense at home, but I only have one mag and don't know the gun well enough to trust it to be reliable. My Dan Wesson 1911 on the other hand is at ~1000 rounds I think with no misfires, no failures to feed, no failures to eject...so I'll be on that one. :)
 

Brian Stirling

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When I'm in the woods and have the risk of a bear or a mountain lion, I want high power...so either my .44mag or my .41mag (about the same power at the muzzle as your 10mm) will go with me. I would *never* take a .45 (or 9mm or 357 sig) thinking it'll kill animals.



My M1 Carbine is the gun I'd rather use for defense at home, but I only have one mag and don't know the gun well enough to trust it to be reliable. My Dan Wesson 1911 on the other hand is at ~1000 rounds I think with no misfires, no failures to feed, no failures to eject...so I'll be on that one. :)

The 357sig is more powerful than either a 9mm or a .45 and is very accurate. No, I don't think I'd want to go against a Kodiak with it but then I wouldn't want my 10mm for that either. But, a 7mm Mag would likely do the trick.


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phucheneh

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Umm, why?
Its not an automatic. It cant keep firing.
The small extra weight might actually help you control it a little better.

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When you have absolutely no control over a gun, the last thing you want is the potential for follow-up trigger pulls to happen by accident.

Well, I mean...when you have no control over something, you just shouldn't be firing it, obviously. The videos of girls who probably should not even be firing anything hotter than a .357 (...maybe even just .38) being handed a .460 or .500 by some giggle-stifling jackass piss me off pretty good. Guys like that deserve an ND in the dick.

I had to look up those rounds to even remember exactly how absurd they are...I was thinking 'well, I've shot +P+ .44mag; it can't be that much worse'...fuck, mang. 44's muzzle energy is usually somewhere around 1000ftlb or less...the Buffalo Bore +P+ SBH/SRH-only ammo is like 1500. 500S&W is 2500 goddamn foot pounds. That's like shooting five .40S&W rounds at once. Without the recoil-absorption of an automatic.:\

Oh, and if someone wants to whine about 'waaah discussion of thread content, post pictures!': Just go to imgur, look at a couple pictures, and pretend I posted them.:thumbsup:

edit: I suddenly realized the misunderstanding- you were thinking that she was firing an SA revolver, perhaps? Even then, there would be potential for mishaps; she could snag the hammer while white-knuckling the trigger (assuming a transfer bar is present; otherwise she doesn't even have to pull the trigger).
 
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Brian Stirling

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Well there was the story, not long ago, of a little girl that was given a pretty powerful handgun and when she fired it she lost control and squeezed of another round that blew off the head of the instructor. I'd right that off as a Darwin award for the instructor but that girl will have to live with the fact that she killed someone.


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Puppies04

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Well there was the story, not long ago, of a little girl that was given a pretty powerful handgun and when she fired it she lost control and squeezed of another round that blew off the head of the instructor. I'd right that off as a Darwin award for the instructor but that girl will have to live with the fact that she killed someone.


Brian

You sure you aren't thinking about the girl with the UZI???
 

RampantAndroid

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Umm, why?
Its not an automatic. It cant keep firing.
The small extra weight might actually help you control it a little better.

Because at range I go to, 10 years ago or so (maybe more) there was a shooting there (davmat knows some of the people who helped cleanup afterwards, iirc.) A guy handed his girlfriend a .44magnum revolver, fully loaded. He thought his small girlfriend shooting a big gun would be funny. She fired, lost control of the gun - it flipped up over her head, pointing behind her with her hands still on it trying to hold on for dear life. Because she was trying to hold on to it with a death grip, she somehow allowed the trigger to reset and squeezed again, firing a second shot.

In the end, the boyfriend had no laughs, because his brain was splattered on the wall, and the poor girl was likely scarred for life (and thankfully, not charged with any crimes.)

You load one round on someone's first shot. If they lose control, drop it or double squeeze it somehow, there's no serious harm that'll happen. I managed to double-fire a range revolver at the same range (a 44 magnum, as luck would have it) - the trigger was wonky (fired, cocked it right away and BANG. The trigger was VERY touchy in SA, maybe a pound of pressure.) Both of my shots landed on the paper, but the second one scared the bejesus out of me. I never fired that gun again.
 

Skel

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Guns blah blah blah guns.

I had been out of the loop for a few months and read around 300 or so posts in this tread. One thing that really jumped out was someone would post something and then you'd have a ton of thread drift posts arguing something really stupid and not at all funny. You'd think they charged a fee to make posts the way people refuse to make posts yet force a thread drift... like this post!
 

phucheneh

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I had been out of the loop for a few months and read around 300 or so posts in this tread. One thing that really jumped out was someone would post something and then you'd have a ton of thread drift posts arguing something really stupid and not at all funny. You'd think they charged a fee to make posts the way people refuse to make posts yet force a thread drift... like this post!

We need to have a discussion about this opinion.
 

Puppies04

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I had been out of the loop for a few months and read around 300 or so posts in this tread. One thing that really jumped out was someone would post something and then you'd have a ton of thread drift posts arguing something really stupid and not at all funny. You'd think they charged a fee to make posts the way people refuse to make posts yet force a thread drift... like this post!


I completely agree, so glad you resisted the urge to give us your asinine opinion without at least posting a funny pic to go with it. Oh thats right, this thread is for your amusement not participation, sorry.

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