Jessica Lynch story flawed?

[Dudd]

Originally posted by: BlipBlop

The BBC is no better than CNN, simply a different perspective

Wrong. The BBC is FAR more involved, thorough and objective than CNN. Journalistic integrity in England is much higher than over here.

Right, which is why they completely dispute the US account over the words of two Iraqi doctors. I ask you, what do you think is the logical response of a doctor being questioned over his treatment of a patient? We beat her like a red headed step child, or we did everything we could to ensure her safety and gave her top notch care? Obviously, the Iraqi's are going to say the latter. The US says the former. The truth is probably somewhere inbetween.

 

[AmerDoux]

Originally posted by: luvly
Yeah, the most recent news was that she had amnesia. Hello? I love when people make up stories and then get embarrassed and declare that the subject isn't capable of remembering it. Amnesia. . . . Interesting.

Amnesia is common with traumatic accidents/injury.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: RgrPark

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: RgrPark I've been in a ranger battalion and i know for a fact that no ranger or a navy seal would go into a mission in a hostile country firing "blanks"...WHAT A BUNCH OF CROCK... I mean would you agree to go into a place where you have a chance of getting shot at, armed with blanks in order to make a hollywood worthy action footage? At least come up with some believeable lies...Jesus Oh yeah, and the footage i saw, and everyone else saw, just showed rangers carrying the Pfc into the chopper in a fast, controlled manner. I didn't see anything getting blown up nor did i hear any shooting. The overall image i got from the footage was that it was carried out the way a military rescue mission should be carried out...with minimal shooting and carnage. And yes, they initially had BS reports about her having gunshot wounds and stuff but that was cleared up real soon after she was rescued. JUST DON"T FEED ME CRAP ABOUT US SOCOM UNITS GOING INTO COMBAT WITH BLANKS WTF!!!

I think you're missing the point...

No. i know the whole point is about media distortion and gov propaganda. I just found it absolutely amazing that they would come up with something TOTALLY unbelievable as troops carrying out real world missions with blanks. If you don't find that outrageous, something's wrong with you or you've been watching too many movies.

Maybe it wasn't a real mission.

 

[Dudd]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: RgrPark

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: RgrPark I've been in a ranger battalion and i know for a fact that no ranger or a navy seal would go into a mission in a hostile country firing "blanks"...WHAT A BUNCH OF CROCK... I mean would you agree to go into a place where you have a chance of getting shot at, armed with blanks in order to make a hollywood worthy action footage? At least come up with some believeable lies...Jesus Oh yeah, and the footage i saw, and everyone else saw, just showed rangers carrying the Pfc into the chopper in a fast, controlled manner. I didn't see anything getting blown up nor did i hear any shooting. The overall image i got from the footage was that it was carried out the way a military rescue mission should be carried out...with minimal shooting and carnage. And yes, they initially had BS reports about her having gunshot wounds and stuff but that was cleared up real soon after she was rescued. JUST DON"T FEED ME CRAP ABOUT US SOCOM UNITS GOING INTO COMBAT WITH BLANKS WTF!!!

I think you're missing the point...

No. i know the whole point is about media distortion and gov propaganda. I just found it absolutely amazing that they would come up with something TOTALLY unbelievable as troops carrying out real world missions with blanks. If you don't find that outrageous, something's wrong with you or you've been watching too many movies.

Maybe it wasn't a real mission.

So they killed the rest of her squad, then staged a fabricated rescue simply for propaganda reasons? Or did the Iraqis kill the rest of her squad, for some reason not kill her, and then let the US have her back so that we could fabricate her rescue? Or did we simply make up her squadmates, then said that they died, and then "rescue" her? I think that any of those scenarios are very far fetched.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Dudd

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: RgrPark

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: RgrPark I've been in a ranger battalion and i know for a fact that no ranger or a navy seal would go into a mission in a hostile country firing "blanks"...WHAT A BUNCH OF CROCK... I mean would you agree to go into a place where you have a chance of getting shot at, armed with blanks in order to make a hollywood worthy action footage? At least come up with some believeable lies...Jesus Oh yeah, and the footage i saw, and everyone else saw, just showed rangers carrying the Pfc into the chopper in a fast, controlled manner. I didn't see anything getting blown up nor did i hear any shooting. The overall image i got from the footage was that it was carried out the way a military rescue mission should be carried out...with minimal shooting and carnage. And yes, they initially had BS reports about her having gunshot wounds and stuff but that was cleared up real soon after she was rescued. JUST DON"T FEED ME CRAP ABOUT US SOCOM UNITS GOING INTO COMBAT WITH BLANKS WTF!!!

I think you're missing the point...

No. i know the whole point is about media distortion and gov propaganda. I just found it absolutely amazing that they would come up with something TOTALLY unbelievable as troops carrying out real world missions with blanks. If you don't find that outrageous, something's wrong with you or you've been watching too many movies.

Maybe it wasn't a real mission.

So they killed the rest of her squad, then staged a fabricated rescue simply for propaganda reasons? Or did the Iraqis kill the rest of her squad, for some reason not kill her, and then let the US have her back so that we could fabricate her rescue? Or did we simply make up her squadmates, then said that they died, and then "rescue" her? I think that any of those scenarios are very far fetched.

Or maybe there was a battle where she was the only one in her squad who was not killed. The Iraqis then took her to a hospital since she was injured, she was treated by doctors, the soldiers left after we got closer, and then, knowing this, the administration staged a rescue mission to save someone they could have just walked in to get.

 

[ChrisIsBored]

Isn't the BBC (the station/news source) like staunchly anti-american (not the British, just this particular tabloid)???

I would take this news with a grain of salt....

 

[HappyPuppy]

I'm dumbfounded that anyone could believe that any of our troops, in a hostile land, carrying out a hostage/prisoner rescue mission would be armed with blank ammunition. I'm having a little trouble getting my mind around this conspiracy theory that the whole thing was staged for propaganda purposes. I'm not saying that propaganda doesn't abound in this conflict just as it does in all others, but this one is even harder to comprehend, or believe, than the theory that it was Jews/Israel behind Sept. 11.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I'm dumbfounded that anyone could believe that any of our troops, in a hostile land, carrying out a hostage/prisoner rescue mission would be armed with blank ammunition. I'm having a little trouble getting my mind around this conspiracy theory that the whole thing was staged for propaganda purposes. I'm not saying that propaganda doesn't abound in this conflict just as it does in all others, but this one is even harder to comprehend, or believe, than the theory that it was Jews/Israel behind Sept. 11.

I am even more dumbfounded that anyone believes we would open fire on the ambulance that was supposedly carrying her.

 

[AthlonXP]

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: her209
P-R-O-P-A-...

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good guess!

 

[DrPizza]

I've made a conscious effort to avoid news lately.... but, I did decide to read this thread.

After reading this thread, I believe that I made the right decision to avoid new programs.
I've been and remain much happier for it.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152

What's the deal in these forums with the forbidden ST_B word?

i believe it had to do with carrot top....

What is it? You mean that dude who I've seen on TV a few times doing ads or whatever, the one-man publicity stunt over the top dude? Or is it someone in these forums? What's the story?

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Doesn't supprize me in the least. The Gov. learned MUCH from Nam. war coverage will never be the same.

The Goverment also learned that when we go to war....we go in to win also.

Ausm

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: AmerDoux

Originally posted by: luvly
Yeah, the most recent news was that she had amnesia. Hello? I love when people make up stories and then get embarrassed and declare that the subject isn't capable of remembering it. Amnesia. . . . Interesting.

Amnesia is common with traumatic accidents/injury.

And I would think especially when you've been abused.

 

[Rogue]

Anyone who would believe this story simply "wants" to believe it. This story in itself flies in the face of modern warfare and the casualty list from the entire incident. First off, why in the hell would US forces fire on an ambulance, it's against Geneva Conventions to just open fire on an ambulance unless it commits a hostile act of some kind. Second, no spec ops unit anywhere for any reason is going to go into an unknown situation like that with blanks. I don't give a damn how much intel we had saying that the enemy had left, they're going in locked and loaded with live ammo. Maybe, just maybe they used blanks to create a diversion considering where the incident occurred, near a hospital. Third, the tape is cut and edited probably because it contains facial captures of some of our most prized spec ops soldiers. Many of our Delta Force soldiers, who don't officially exist anyway, work very hard to keep their identity obscured. Lastly, why is someone gonna believe that these "doctors" are a) legitimate and b) don't have any intentions of making us look bad to skew public opinion of the entire incident. I am in the same boat as other people, I find myself distrusting less and less of the news I hear and more and more of the news that I see for myself. News is all about glamour now, not the gritty underbelly of the situation that plays out in front of the human eye.