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akugami said:
Pretty much this. People take this shit way too seriously. I would have zero problem with people piling on how bad the Eagles were this week and what a shitty gameplan Chip Kelly had...except Dallas took all the attention away.

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Romo's #1 at something at least.
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He's also #6 in 4th quarter comebacks. Want to post a picture about that? No? Didn't think so. People can continue to blame the QB as much as they want - but the defense allowed scoring drives for 5 straight possessions. Where's the talk about Lee and Ware not being effective? Or how about some blame for a terrible PI call that screwed Carr over, not that he played well anyways.

IndyColtsFan said:
I thought you were done defending Romo?
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Only when he's to blame. This, much like the Denver game, is not Romo's fault.
 
dougp said:
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Passing&range=NFL&rank=117

Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Big Ben all say howdy.
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All of those QBs except Matt Ryan have done something Romo has not done:

1. Win more than 1 playoff game
2. Been to multiple Super Bowls
3. Won one or more Super Bowls

Call me when any of the QBs above manage to throw 2 INTs in the final 3 minutes which capped off the collapse of a colossal 26-3 lead. What was the stat I saw the other day? IIRC, it was that Romo has thrown 7 INTs in the closing minutes of the 4th quarter which have caused Cowboy losses.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
All of those QBs except Matt Ryan have done something Romo has not done:

1. Win more than 1 playoff game
2. Been to multiple Super Bowls
3. Won one or more Super Bowls

Call me when any of the QBs above manage to throw 2 INTs in the final 3 minutes which capped off the collapse of a colossal 26-3 lead. What was the stat I saw the other day? IIRC, it was that Romo has thrown 7 INTs in the closing minutes of the 4th quarter which have caused Cowboy losses.
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And the INT is as much to blame as the defense not playing for most of the game. How much do you watch Cowboys games? Just curious - because you'd see some of the shit that receivers do, like not run a route properly (whether an audible or not) or not put effort behind the catch (Dez does this, and it's infuriating.) Anyone who wants to look at stats are no different than a monkey who can can press a button that's red when asked. Unless you watch the situations he's put in, your argument is pretty nil. This goes for any player/QB in the league.
 
dougp said:
And the INT is as much to blame as the defense not playing for most of the game. How much do you watch Cowboys games? Just curious - because you'd see some of the shit that receivers do, like not run a route properly (whether an audible or not) or not put effort behind the catch (Dez does this, and it's infuriating.) Anyone who wants to look at stats are no different than a monkey who can can press a button that's red when asked. Unless you watch the situations he's put in, your argument is pretty nil. This goes for any player/QB in the league.
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If you'd bother reading what I wrote a couple of posts ago, I CLEARLY said that the loss can't be pinned solely on Romo. However, the defensive collapse doesn't give him a pass on making bad plays. Additionally, you also forget that Romo audibled out of a called run on the first interception when, IIRC, they only needed 1 yard for the first down.

That's what separates the greats from the rest of the pack -- the ability to overcome adverse situations and come out on top. Romo repeatedly fails under pressure. When he walked on the field for the Cowboys' final drive against Denver, I knew he was going to screw it up somehow and he didn't disappoint. Even I was surprised at what happened at the end of the last game, however.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
If you'd bother reading what I wrote a couple of posts ago, I CLEARLY said that the loss can't be pinned solely on Romo. However, the defensive collapse doesn't give him a pass on making bad plays. Additionally, you also forget that Romo audibled out of a called run on the first interception when, IIRC, they only needed 1 yard for the first down.

That's what separates the greats from the rest of the pack -- the ability to overcome adverse situations and come out on top. Romo repeatedly fails under pressure. When he walked on the field for the Cowboys' final drive against Denver, I knew he was going to screw it up somehow and he didn't disappoint. Even I was surprised at what happened at the end of the last game, however.
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I know what you've said, ICF. Also, that audible? Yeah, quite a few analysts agreed with what he did.

As well, Romo has been great under pressure too - he just picks and chooses when he wants to perform under pressure.
 
dougp said:
He's also #6 in 4th quarter comebacks. Want to post a picture about that? No? Didn't think so. People can continue to blame the QB as much as they want - but the defense allowed scoring drives for 5 straight possessions. Where's the talk about Lee and Ware not being effective? Or how about some blame for a terrible PI call that screwed Carr over, not that he played well anyways.



Only when he's to blame. This, much like the Denver game, is not Romo's fault.
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My problem isn't that you're defending Romo. He does have some admirable qualities as a QB but it's unarguable that he has made some huge boneheaded mistakes when the game is on the line.

The problem is you taking potshots at me when it isn't warranted. AFAIK, I did not insult you, nor did I insult anyone in your family. That's just shitty behavior by you.

If you want to defend Romo, be my guest. Not every Cowboys fan likes Romo. I talked to one of our business partners down in Dallas just on Tuesday and he's a lifelong Cowboys fan. He's said for the last few years that he wants Romo out. His feeling is Romo sucks and will always make a stupid mistake at the end of the year and/or the end of a game.
 
akugami said:
My problem isn't that you're defending Romo. He does have some admirable qualities as a QB but it's unarguable that he has made some huge boneheaded mistakes when the game is on the line.

The problem is you taking potshots at me when it isn't warranted. AFAIK, I did not insult you, nor did I insult anyone in your family. That's just shitty behavior by you.

If you want to defend Romo, be my guest. Not every Cowboys fan likes Romo. I talked to one of our business partners down in Dallas just on Tuesday and he's a lifelong Cowboys fan. He's said for the last few years that he wants Romo out. His feeling is Romo sucks and will always make a stupid mistake at the end of the year and/or the end of a game.
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Guess what, that guy is a moron then. Romo has had some "meltdowns" and made a few mistakes, but the majority of the problems don't center around him. Look at the Denver game. His interception lost them the game... Yeah. It had nothing to do with not stopping Denver from scoring every drive. The fact they were even able to keep up shows Romo can play. There was no reason for him to even be in that situation, nor was there last week against GB.

Romo has the highest 4th quarter passer rating among active QBs in the league. The highest. He plays well in the 4th quarter. The problem is the rest of his team doesn't.

AND Jason Garrett throwing Romo under the bus for the first pick and changing the play is complete BS. They call him out for changing ONE play that was a run. What about the rest of the plays that weren't runs? Did he change all of those as well? The fact that like 20% of the play calls during the entire 2nd half were runs has a lot to do with why they lost, and very little to do with Romo. Everyone sitting around, knowing the outcome talks about how bad decisions were. Yeah, it is easy to criticize them after the fact. Had they scored on that play, would everyone be calling Romo a genius? I think not.

It is also funny that only Romo's 4th quarter "game losing" interceptions are brought up. How many times has Brady done that this season and people just shrug it off? How about Jesus... I mean Manning? That INT against SD sure helped a lot, didn't it?
 
Capt Caveman said:
NE would also have to lose against Buffalo next week. Techs doesn't know anything about football or NE. He started the season saying that the lose of Wilfork wasn't a big deal.
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I don't know, 10-4 seems pretty good; especially considering that when Wilfork went down they were 1-3, or something like that?

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akugami said:
My problem isn't that you're defending Romo. He does have some admirable qualities as a QB but it's unarguable that he has made some huge boneheaded mistakes when the game is on the line.

The problem is you taking potshots at me when it isn't warranted. AFAIK, I did not insult you, nor did I insult anyone in your family. That's just shitty behavior by you.

If you want to defend Romo, be my guest. Not every Cowboys fan likes Romo. I talked to one of our business partners down in Dallas just on Tuesday and he's a lifelong Cowboys fan. He's said for the last few years that he wants Romo out. His feeling is Romo sucks and will always make a stupid mistake at the end of the year and/or the end of a game.
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You're pretty upset, considering 1) it's just an image and 2) I did to you what you did to Romo.
 
zinfamous said:
I don't know, 10-4 seems pretty good; especially considering that when Wilfork went down they were 1-3, or something like that?

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NE started the season 4-0, Wilfork was injured in the 4th game against Atl. And they went from one of the best defenses against the run to one of the worst.
 
Almost anyone can get a "legit" adderall prescription. And it does enhance performance. There's a reason many sporting organizations ban it.

FWIW, Maxwell and Thurmond are playing better than Browner anyways.
 
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Capt Caveman said:
NE started the season 4-0, Wilfork was injured in the 4th game against Atl. And they went from one of the best defenses against the run to one of the worst.
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Oh crap, I'm confusing seasons. I remember one where they were a deceptive 1-2 or 1-3 (much better team than that record), then this season where they looked like crap out of the gate, but were 4-0 on virtue of playing even shittier teams.

I will say, though, They don't look like crap right now, from the recent games I have watched, but I don't get to see them play all that often.
 
Imported said:
Almost anyone can get a "legit" adderall prescription. And it does enhance performance. There's a reason many sporting organizations ban it.

FWIW, Maxwell and Thurmond are playing better than Browner anyways.
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Wilson's probably the only guy where someone of comparable ability isn't able to immediately step in, so hopefully he stays off the ADD meds. 🙂
 
zinfamous said:
Oh crap, I'm confusing seasons. I remember one where they were a deceptive 1-2 or 1-3 (much better team than that record), then this season where they looked like crap out of the gate, but were 4-0 on virtue of playing even shittier teams.

I will say, though, They don't look like crap right now, from the recent games I have watched, but I don't get to see them play all that often.
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They've definitely improved over the year. I watched them a few times in the early season and they looked rocky, but ended up eeking out wins regardless. Brady had a lot of new targets and they just weren't quite in sync, but they're getting there.
 
This is the stats from Gannett News:

Dallas Cowboys had the leads in all 14 games (with an average of 33 minutes in the lead out of 60 minutes per game) they played this year. Only 4 teams in the NFL with that kind of number. They are: Dallas, Denver, Seattle, and Carolina. Three other teams are 33-9 while Dallas is 7-7.

Dallas also had 12 out of 14 games with leads in 2nd half and 11 out of 14 with leads in 4th quarter.
 
Svnla said:
This is the stats from Gannett News:

Dallas Cowboys had the leads in all 14 games (with an average of 33 minutes in the lead out of 60 minutes per game) they played this year. Only 4 teams in the NFL with that kind of number. They are: Dallas, Denver, Seattle, and Carolina. Three other teams are 33-9 while Dallas is 7-7.

Dallas also had 12 out of 14 games with leads in 2nd half and 11 out of 14 with leads in 4th quarter.
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That's nearly 100% coaching.
 
Svnla said:
This is the stats from Gannett News:

Dallas Cowboys had the leads in all 14 games (with an average of 33 minutes in the lead out of 60 minutes per game) they played this year. Only 4 teams in the NFL with that kind of number. They are: Dallas, Denver, Seattle, and Carolina. Three other teams are 33-9 while Dallas is 7-7.

Dallas also had 12 out of 14 games with leads in 2nd half and 11 out of 14 with leads in 4th quarter.
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So, what you're saying is Dallas has kept up, and ran with, nearly every team they've played and lost at the end of the game? Hmm. That sounds an awful lot like they coaching staff is not keeping the players playing the right game plan the entire game.
 
smackababy said:
So, what you're saying is Dallas has kept up, and ran with, nearly every team they've played and lost at the end of the game? Hmm. That sounds an awful lot like they coaching staff is not keeping the players playing the right game plan the entire game.
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From what I've seen in their past two losses, they refuse to run the ball for some reason after the second half. Even when they're gaining like 7 yards a carry. Its baffling and especially frustrating as a Murray owner 😛
 
Sucks for the Packers, as they still haven't lost the NFC North somehow. I guess Flynn isn't doing awful and if they do make the playoffs risking Rodgers getting hurt before then would be pretty stupid.
 
Imported said:
From what I've seen in their past two losses, they refuse to run the ball for some reason after the second half. Even when they're gaining like 7 yards a carry. Its baffling and especially frustrating as a Murray owner 😛
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Yeah, I don't know what is up with the play calling. I don't feel particularly bad for Murray fantasy owners. He hasn't exactly been a early round pick and if they wasted one on him, they deserve it. Ray Rice on the other hand... And to think, I picked him up first pick last year in one of my leagues.
 
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