jena 6

[ManBearPig]

let me get this straight, a couple of white kids hung up a noose and a bunch of black kids beat one (or both?) up? why does everyone want them to be freed, they beat the shit out of some kid? oh, they want the noose to be counted as a hate crime, right? but still, i dont see why they should be freed or that everyone cares so much or whatever--i mean, they beat the shit out of someone.

 

[blackllotus]

Because some were initially charged with attempted murder (then assault with a deadly weapon) and one of them faced 15 years in prison. They should be charged as juveniles and for assault.

 

[nick1985]

You are missing a LONG series of events in between the 2 you named. They are upset at the fact that when white kids beat up black kids, they got off scot free, but when its the other way around they are tried as adults.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: nick1985
You are missing a LONG series of events in between the 2 you named. They are upset at the fact that when white kids beat up black kids, they got off scot free, but when its the other way around they are tried as adults.

Yep. There's a long thread on this as well.

 

[Deudalus]

Originally posted by: nick1985
You are missing a LONG series of events in between the 2 you named. They are upset at the fact that when white kids beat up black kids, they got off scot free, but when its the other way around they are tried as adults.

Agreed, but you have to also admit that when 6 black kids beat up 1 white kid is school violence, but if 6 white kids beat up 1 black kid it would be a violent hate crime.

There is plenty enough double standards to go around here.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Deudalus

Originally posted by: nick1985
You are missing a LONG series of events in between the 2 you named. They are upset at the fact that when white kids beat up black kids, they got off scot free, but when its the other way around they are tried as adults.

Agreed, but you have to also admit that when 6 black kids beat up 1 white kid is school violence, but if 6 white kids beat up 1 black kid it would be a violent hate crime.

There is plenty enough double standards to go around here.

Well, why wasn't it for the black kid that was beaten up?

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Deudalus

Originally posted by: nick1985
You are missing a LONG series of events in between the 2 you named. They are upset at the fact that when white kids beat up black kids, they got off scot free, but when its the other way around they are tried as adults.

Agreed, but you have to also admit that when 6 black kids beat up 1 white kid is school violence, but if 6 white kids beat up 1 black kid it would be a violent hate crime.

There is plenty enough double standards to go around here.

Well, why wasn't it for the black kid that was beaten up?

The black kid was beaten up at a party by one person who wasn't even a student of Jena HS. The kid didn't even seek medical attention, so it's pretty much hearsay.

Mychal Bell, who is the only one of the Jena 6 that has been in court so far, was tried as an adult and convicted of assault and conspiracy to commit assault. Doesn't matter what the charges were, the conviction was EXACTLY what every one seems to think he was guilty of.

As for being tried as an adult, well Bell has a laundry list of prior offenses. At what point do you decide that enough is enough? I would say that 3 prior criminal offenses is enough proof that a juvenile is ready for the big show. It's all moot now that the conviction has been overruled, but I firmly believe that Bell deserved what he originally got. The rest of the 6 may deserve a bit of leeway. I don't know what, if any, crimes they have committed in the past.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Deudalus

Originally posted by: nick1985
You are missing a LONG series of events in between the 2 you named. They are upset at the fact that when white kids beat up black kids, they got off scot free, but when its the other way around they are tried as adults.

Agreed, but you have to also admit that when 6 black kids beat up 1 white kid is school violence, but if 6 white kids beat up 1 black kid it would be a violent hate crime.

There is plenty enough double standards to go around here.

Well, why wasn't it for the black kid that was beaten up?

The black kid was beaten up at a party by one person who wasn't even a student of Jena HS. The kid didn't even seek medical attention, so it's pretty much hearsay.

Mychal Bell, who is the only one of the Jena 6 that has been in court so far, was tried as an adult and convicted of assault and conspiracy to commit assault. Doesn't matter what the charges were, the conviction was EXACTLY what every one seems to think he was guilty of.

As for being tried as an adult, well Bell has a laundry list of prior offenses. At what point do you decide that enough is enough? I would say that 3 prior criminal offenses is enough proof that a juvenile is ready for the big show. It's all moot now that the conviction has been overruled, but I firmly believe that Bell deserved what he originally got. The rest of the 6 may deserve a bit of leeway. I don't know what, if any, crimes they have committed in the past.

Who cares where the white kids that beat up the innocent black kid are from. They ganged up on him and beat him up. G-d knows they may have (tried to) sodomized him as well.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Deudalus

Originally posted by: nick1985
You are missing a LONG series of events in between the 2 you named. They are upset at the fact that when white kids beat up black kids, they got off scot free, but when its the other way around they are tried as adults.

Agreed, but you have to also admit that when 6 black kids beat up 1 white kid is school violence, but if 6 white kids beat up 1 black kid it would be a violent hate crime.

There is plenty enough double standards to go around here.

Well, why wasn't it for the black kid that was beaten up?

The black kid was beaten up at a party by one person who wasn't even a student of Jena HS. The kid didn't even seek medical attention, so it's pretty much hearsay.

Mychal Bell, who is the only one of the Jena 6 that has been in court so far, was tried as an adult and convicted of assault and conspiracy to commit assault. Doesn't matter what the charges were, the conviction was EXACTLY what every one seems to think he was guilty of.

As for being tried as an adult, well Bell has a laundry list of prior offenses. At what point do you decide that enough is enough? I would say that 3 prior criminal offenses is enough proof that a juvenile is ready for the big show. It's all moot now that the conviction has been overruled, but I firmly believe that Bell deserved what he originally got. The rest of the 6 may deserve a bit of leeway. I don't know what, if any, crimes they have committed in the past.

Who cares where the white kids that beat up the innocent black kid are from. They ganged up on him and beat him up. G-d knows they may have (tried to) sodomized him as well.

 

[Lord Bilz]

Originally posted by: Deudalus
but if 6 white kids beat up 1 black kid it would be a violent hate crime.

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No it would be a police training exercise.