Jen-Hsun Interview

rjc

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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080905PD206.html

I hope the translation is accurate, cause there's some good quotes.

On the notebook issue:
Nvidia is a responsible company and we are willing to spend US$200 to solve a problem caused in a GPU worth US$20. Currently, we are negotiating with partners to recall products and hope to give consumers a satisfactory resolution.

Oh my!

On the the chances of a new GX2:
Basically, I don't agree with the strategy since single-GPU designs are definitely more efficient than dual-GPU ones. If a single GPU can perform 100%, a dual-GPU card can only achieve 130-180% performance, while costs are much higher.

As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.


So no i guess ;)

The answer on how nvidia will handle integrated GPU/CPUs was interesting, i didn't realise they only had 1% of the intel chipset market.
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.
 

apoppin

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what did you expect him to say?
-jensen IS Nvidia :p

However, I would like to comment on Intel's push to using x86 architecture for GPUs. High-end graphics technology is not something you can achieve by just stepping through the door. Intel's hope of changing the whole GPU industry is not going to be something easily achieved.

And he denies their own push into x86 .. of course

A: Basically, I don't agree with the strategy since single-GPU designs are definitely more efficient than dual-GPU ones. If a single GPU can perform 100%, a dual-GPU card can only achieve 130-180% performance, while costs are much higher.

As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.
He does not rule out a GX2 .. he just doesn't "prefer" them as they are expensive to produce

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i would like to interview him



 

Creig

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Nvidia never considered trying to shirk responsibility and we immediately started to solve the problem with a conscientious attitude.

Wasn't a lawsuit recently filed against Nvidia that claims the exact opposite of this?

NVIDIA sued over notebook GPU failures

How long has NVIDIA known?
The central allegation made in the suit is that NVIDIA has known about the potential defects in the GPUs since November of 2007 and kept the possible defect and the effect the defect could have the NVIDIA's financial future a secret by issuing a series of false and misleading statements to the investing public.
 

Ryl3x

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.


Relax kid.....if you dont like nvidia then dont buy it. To make time to hate on them tells me you really like them but cant afford it.
 

solofly

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.

Because of that attitude I don't like NV anymore. Can't believe I bought their shit all these years. I have great hopes that one day, the trio Intel, MS and AMD will put greedy and dishonest nv to rest. Its time for someone new and refreshing to come along and take their place.
As for me I'm done paying top dollar for their shit and most of all I ain't listening to them anymore... NV says jump and the blinded fans reply how high...;)
 

shangshang

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From reading the article, I gather than Jens wants Nv to stay focused on the GPU market. Intel is stuck in the x86 architecture. Jens sounds like a cocky fighter and he's not ready to concede anything anytime soon. This is the exact kind of CEO a company like Nv needs. Young, energentic, confidence in his team.

side note: he does physically look young and muscular (for an exec) though, looking at his biceps, he's gotta workout a few times a week. I'm actually a little envious of him because I don't think I can ever be like him by the time I get to his age.
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: Ryl3x
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.


Relax kid.....if you dont like nvidia then dont buy it. To make time to hate on them tells me you really like them but cant afford it.

Taking the time to tell the world that your primary competitor - which currently enjoys a superior product line up - has a weaker (design and development) team, well that's just pure arrogance, and it's why NVIDIA is in a sad state of affairs at the moment, requiring knee-jerk reactions to stay price-performance competitive.

Think twice before you call someone "kid" next time.
 

IlllI

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.


what do you expect from a person who threatened to bring a 'can of whoop-ass to intel'

(or whatever it was)
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.

Well, if that happens you can say goodbye to AMD/ATI as well because then there would be zero reasons to buy anything from AMD.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.

Well, if that happens you can say goodbye to AMD/ATI as well because then there would be zero reasons to buy anything from AMD.

Doh!!
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

If NVIDIA were to suddenly disappear tomorrow, you think ATI would keep prices this low? For the consumer-health of the CPU and GPU markets, we need ATI/AMD, Intel and NVIDIA to all be healthy.
 

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Keep in mind this interview was translated so some things may have been lost in translation.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: Ryl3x
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.


Relax kid.....if you dont like nvidia then dont buy it. To make time to hate on them tells me you really like them but cant afford it.

Taking the time to tell the world that your primary competitor - which currently enjoys a superior product line up - has a weaker (design and development) team, well that's just pure arrogance, and it's why NVIDIA is in a sad state of affairs at the moment, requiring knee-jerk reactions to stay price-performance competitive.

Think twice before you call someone "kid" next time.

well, i kid you not

But Jensen actually believes he has the superior design team
- he believes in CUDA and the future of tesla and he is a bit arrogant about his competitor and their design philosophy which he does not believe is benefiting the industry.

As far as superior product line up goes, that would be the 4850 which has no answer - nor the sandwich, X2

he is a fighter .. nothing about that was lost in the translation
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rjc

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Originally posted by: Creig
Wasn't a lawsuit recently filed against Nvidia that claims the exact opposite of this?

Yeah a shareholder one. In the all the public answers so far nvidia has been careful to say that they haven't exactly worked out what exactly is happening. ie in the the interview there, the answer included "All the causes are currently under investigation"

I'm guessing this will be their line of defense, that they couldnt determine exactly the root cause of the problem.

The shareholder class action doesn't necessarily have to be successful, they generally just have to get past the pre-trial stuff and most companies end up settling rather than go through the publicity nightmare of a full trial.

ie Nvidia just settled the price fixing one they were defendants in along with AMD, for quite a small sum as well.

This is the first time though i think that they have said that they tried to get a recall started. If the translation is correct, that puts the notebook oems in an awkward situation, as they didnt follow through with a recall that nvidia asked for. Dell and HP extended warranties, but others such as apple(the macbook pros) have just ignored the issue.

The original article is on Digitimes Taiwan, in news 23 Sept Mobo section. If a native speaker could have a look at it, and make sure the translation is ok that would be much appreciated.
 

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Originally posted by: shangshang
From reading the article, I gather than Jens wants Nv to stay focused on the GPU market.

Quoting:
Currently, we have no plans for that. We are very busy already and have no time to cross over to our competitors' field. The most important thing to remember is that Intel is the leader in the CPU market and so it's better that Nvidia focuses on what we do best. To cut in to the x86 CPU market would just be a waste of time and resources.

They would be bringing out the champagne at intel headquarters on reading the quote above, a year ago nvidia was riding high, had lots of cash and really looked like they could expand to bring about a third x86 platform.

The 'larrabee' plan has worked perfectly for intel, they mightn't even need to release an actual product now. :(
 

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He keeps blowing smoke. Nvidia is a very strong company, but the guy at the top is hiding something.
 

bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: solofly
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.

Because of that attitude I don't like NV anymore. Can't believe I bought their shit all these years. I have great hopes that one day, the trio Intel, MS and AMD will put greedy and dishonest nv to rest. Its time for someone new and refreshing to come along and take their place.
As for me I'm done paying top dollar for their shit and most of all I ain't listening to them anymore... NV says jump and the blinded fans reply how high...;)

yes, because nvidia is evil, greedy, and generally all about the money while m$, intel, and amd plant flowers all day and sing tra-la-la and shit...:confused: they're all companies. they're all trying to make as much money for their shareholders as they can. how is huang "cocky" when he points out a fact? I haven't bought nvidia in 2 generations but I'd switch back to them in a heartbeat if they had the better bang/buck in my chosen segment when I'm in the market. This current gen is going to humble nvidia greatly, making them far more dangerous for the next round imho.
 

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Originally posted by: rjc

The original article is on Digitimes Taiwan, in news 23 Sept Mobo section. If a native speaker could have a look at it, and make sure the translation is ok that would be much appreciated.


I am fluent in Mandarin Chinese, and I was shocked by this interview:

I apologize to Creig for the spurious and dishonorable behavior of my henchman, Rollo.

As ATi was able to produce the second fastest GPU this year, and subsequently Crossfire it on a board, we have decided to make wooden doorstops instead.

The ways of business weary me, I am resigning to take up professional bowling."


Seriously, does anyone here expect any representative of any company to say anything but good things about their company, and bad things about their competitors?

Check out the recent Richard Huddy (ATi) interview- does he say "It's too bad we didn't produce the fastest GPU this year, and we really missed the boat with PhysX and stereo."?
No. He promotes the choices ATi made, downplays the choices nV made.

This is the way of business, if you don't believe it, you're not in the work world. (or are on a very low rung)
 

SolMiester

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.

You missed the point dude.....Nvidia team is stronger because they can design the fastest single chip gpu, like they have done for the pass 3 years.....
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: solofly
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: rjc
As for whether dual-GPU designs help save development time, I think this is a question of the research team's ability. Since Nvidia's team is much stronger than our competitor's, I believe we are able to achieve time-to-market and yet still maintain design excellence.[/i]

Arrogant cocky little bastard, isn't he.

Obviously NVIDIA's team is stronger, which is why ATI's team has price/performance advantages in just about all segments.

I hope Intel manages to wipe the floor with NVIDIA when Larrabee comes out.

Because of that attitude I don't like NV anymore. Can't believe I bought their shit all these years. I have great hopes that one day, the trio Intel, MS and AMD will put greedy and dishonest nv to rest. Its time for someone new and refreshing to come along and take their place.
As for me I'm done paying top dollar for their shit and most of all I ain't listening to them anymore... NV says jump and the blinded fans reply how high...;)

[sarcsam]yes...let us all wish that HONEST ALTRUISTIC AMD... HONEST ALTRUISTIC MS, and HONEST ALTRUISTIC Intel will one day put GREEDY DISHONEST nVidia to rest... Because competition is bad for consumers when one of the competitors is pure evil while the others are beacons of shining light[/sarcasm]
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: SolMiester

You missed the point dude.....Nvidia team is stronger because they can design the fastest single chip gpu, like they have done for the pass 3 years.....

The point is profit and future outlook, not who has the single fastest card.

 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: SolMiester

You missed the point dude.....Nvidia team is stronger because they can design the fastest single chip gpu, like they have done for the pass 3 years.....

The point is profit and future outlook, not who has the single fastest card.

Wrong again

Jensen was saying Nvidia has the strongest design team
- he is basing his future outlook on CUDA, 3d and physX for the short/mid/long term

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Creig

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Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: rjc

The original article is on Digitimes Taiwan, in news 23 Sept Mobo section. If a native speaker could have a look at it, and make sure the translation is ok that would be much appreciated.


I am fluent in Mandarin Chinese, and I was shocked by this interview:

I apologize to Creig for the spurious and dishonorable behavior of my henchman, Rollo.

As ATi was able to produce the second fastest GPU this year, and subsequently Crossfire it on a board, we have decided to make wooden doorstops instead.

The ways of business weary me, I am resigning to take up professional bowling."


Seriously, does anyone here expect any representative of any company to say anything but good things about their company, and bad things about their competitors?

Check out the recent Richard Huddy (ATi) interview- does he say "It's too bad we didn't produce the fastest GPU this year, and we really missed the boat with PhysX and stereo."?
No. He promotes the choices ATi made, downplays the choices nV made.

This is the way of business, if you don't believe it, you're not in the work world. (or are on a very low rung)


QFP.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: nRollo
Originally posted by: rjc

The original article is on Digitimes Taiwan, in news 23 Sept Mobo section. If a native speaker could have a look at it, and make sure the translation is ok that would be much appreciated.


I am fluent in Mandarin Chinese, and I was shocked by this interview:

I apologize to Creig for the spurious and dishonorable behavior of my henchman, Rollo.

As ATi was able to produce the second fastest GPU this year, and subsequently Crossfire it on a board, we have decided to make wooden doorstops instead.

The ways of business weary me, I am resigning to take up professional bowling."


Seriously, does anyone here expect any representative of any company to say anything but good things about their company, and bad things about their competitors?

Check out the recent Richard Huddy (ATi) interview- does he say "It's too bad we didn't produce the fastest GPU this year, and we really missed the boat with PhysX and stereo."?
No. He promotes the choices ATi made, downplays the choices nV made.

This is the way of business, if you don't believe it, you're not in the work world. (or are on a very low rung)


QFP.

You take this stuff way too seriously ol' buddy- I thought you would get a laugh out of it.

In any case, it's not like I flamed you, marketed anything, or even posted anything particularly controversial.