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Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide at Manhattan Jail

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Bitek said:
The fact they didn't have him under monitored care given his profile and previous suicide attempt is proof they weren't don't their jobs.

The question is if it's intentional negligence or gross incompetence.
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Point of clarification, he had "marks" on his neck the week prior. This was reported by the media last week with emphasis on the likelihood that he had been attacked by another inmate. This in fact is what Epstein told his jailers. And it's plausible because this is how this kind of offender is often treated by the general prison population. So they didn't know for sure if there had been a prior attempt and we still do not know.

A suicide watch involves 24 hour a day eyes on from another human being. This cannot be sustained forever. Is one week sufficient when you're unsure if there really had been a prior attempt? I don't know. I assume there are written policies applicable to this situation. The prison staff would only be negligent for failing to follow the policy.
 
SlowSpyder said:
I honestly thought this was known and accepted that Clinton flew on his plane several times at least. But I forgot, we live in a world where liberals are sure there are Russian piss videos with Trump. We all laughed at conservatives that got uppity over the Jade Helm exercise under Obama, but are they really too dumb to see they're dong the exact same thing today? Party before America. Ironing.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-l...offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known
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Are you really that much of an idiot??
Of course we knew that Clinton flew in Epsteins plane. It is all the other lies and false news that UG posted after the fact that cannot be verified!!
 
UglyCasanova said:
So a guy gets caught frickin a 21 year old so knows is both interested in younger girls and willing to act on it, gets caught hanging around a serial pedophile, and gets caught ditching security on several occasions to go fly on said pedophiles private jet that has the nickname Lolita Express. I’m sorry that’s smoke. Politics is preventing you from seeing that.
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No, politics is preventing YOU from addressing the facts, shockingly a 50 something finds a 21yr old attractive so I guess anything like that means a 15yr old would be no problem, WRONG. A 2-term POTUS would have been called out/recognized and rightfully prosecuted had that happened.
 
Gotta love all the desperate unsubstantiated Clinton deflections going on here while just yesterday, this dropped in the document dump from a previous Epstein trial:

Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victim’s recruitment at Mar-a-Lago

https://www.politico.com/story/2019...jtLQtMcVcC0Pg050CVCkw7eOCCOzEQe6AyhgwkK9EtPtw

A trove of court documents unsealed Friday detail allegations by an alleged victim of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein that while working as a teenage locker room attendant at President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort nearly two decades ago she was recruited to give Epstein massages that often involved sexual activity.
 
Barr is calling for an investigation. I hope the investigations continue and EVERYONE who was in his circle and abusing young women is brought to justice.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Lots of bodies around the Clintons.
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There are lots of bodies around lots of politicians. I don't trust any of them to not have some evil skeletons. Money & Power does things to people. It's very easy to get people out of your way, when you have money and are connected. Harry Reid had an accident, Mitch McConnell had an accident, etc, etc...
 
SlowSpyder said:
Lots of bodies around the Clintons.
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Imagine taking a highly connected, political person. Any one. Now claim anyone with 1-6 degrees of separation to them (yes, many of the 26 on the "Clinton body count" list were not even directly involved with the Clintons at any time.) that died is a direct consequence of that person. They killed them. It's a vast conspiracy.

Now see how fucking gullible you are.

Conspiracy theories are pseudo intellectual fodder for the functionally retarded.
 
BoomerD said:
But when you get right down to it...Trump has much more to lose than Clinton if those kind of allegations came out.
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Yet thus far no Epstein victim has yet accused either Trump or Clinton, and there's been a lot of time for that to happen, and a lot of exposure of Epstein and his accusers during that time. Yet one victim has specifically accused Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew. That same victim has not accused either Clinton or Trump. So far no accusations from her or any other victim against Trump or Clinton.

So far from what we know, Clinton and Trump both hung around with Epstein, meaning they likely knew what he was up to and didn't bother to report it. We have nothing beyond that to go on, and logically we should by now.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Yet thus far no Epstein victim has yet accused either Trump or Clinton, and there's been a lot of time for that to happen, and a lot of exposure of Epstein and his accusers during that time. Yet one victim has specifically accused Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew. That same victim has not accused either Clinton or Trump. So far no accusations from her or any other victim against Trump or Clinton.

So far from what we know, Clinton and Trump both hung around with Epstein, meaning they likely knew what he was up to and didn't bother to report it. We have nothing beyond that to go on, and logically we should by now.
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She was well paid for her silence?
 
woolfe9998 said:
Yet thus far no Epstein victim has yet accused either Trump or Clinton, and there's been a lot of time for that to happen, and a lot of exposure of Epstein and his accusers during that time. Yet one victim has specifically accused Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew. That same victim has not accused either Clinton or Trump. So far no accusations from her or any other victim against Trump or Clinton.

So far from what we know, Clinton and Trump both hung around with Epstein, meaning they likely knew what he was up to and didn't bother to report it. We have nothing beyond that to go on, and logically we should by now.
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The recent doc dump mentioned he recruited victims at Mar a Lago.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Yet thus far no Epstein victim has yet accused either Trump or Clinton, and there's been a lot of time for that to happen, and a lot of exposure of Epstein and his accusers during that time. Yet one victim has specifically accused Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew. That same victim has not accused either Clinton or Trump. So far no accusations from her or any other victim against Trump or Clinton.

So far from what we know, Clinton and Trump both hung around with Epstein, meaning they likely knew what he was up to and didn't bother to report it. We have nothing beyond that to go on, and logically we should by now.
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Huh??? How dare you use that word in these forums? It is not logical to logically use the word logical on the forums!!
 
UglyCasanova said:
So a guy gets caught frickin a 21 year old so knows is both interested in younger girls and willing to act on it, gets caught hanging around a serial pedophile, and gets caught ditching security on several occasions to go fly on said pedophiles private jet that has the nickname Lolita Express. I’m sorry that’s smoke. Politics is preventing you from seeing that.
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"Younger girls?" Try younger women. Find me a single 40 something or 50 something man who doesn't find some women (or men) in their 20's to be sexually attractive. It's the rule, not the exception. It's common and totally normal. It's why models, centerfolds, porn stars etc. are mostly in their late teens to middle 20's. Trying to use his diddling around with a 21 year old intern as "evidence" that he would have sex with Epstein's 14 and 15 year old victims is a laughably bad argument. If Clinton has an attraction to girls of that age, we haven't seen any evidence of it yet.
 
Amused said:
Imagine taking a highly connected, political person. Any one. Now claim anyone with 1-6 degrees of separation to them (yes, many of the 26 on the "Clinton body count" list were not even directly involved with the Clintons at any time.) that died is a direct consequence of that person. They killed them. It's a vast conspiracy.

Now see how fucking gullible you are.

Conspiracy theories are pseudo intellectual fodder for the functionally retarded.
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Instead of trying to confront the conspiracy idiots head-on, how about we try to gently redirect them? Yes, sure, of course the Clintons had him killed. They'd do a lot to protect their close friends like Trump.
 
Those who control the investigation, control the narrative. Of course Barr is calling for an investigation, he has to protect his number one client, trump.



I really hope that every single person who was involved with Epstein gets exposed. I don't care what side of the isle you are on, this guy was as dirty as they get and chances are, if you are associated with him, you are a dirty fuck too.
 
Amused said:
The recent doc dump mentioned he recruited victims at Mar a Lago.
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Which does not implicate Trump as someone who had sex with any of Epstein's victims. There's been a lot of time here, and many victims (50+ by now) who have come forward over Epstein. None has claimed they had sex with Trump or Clinton. When I hear that a victim has accused one of them, that will change things. Until then, neither man is guilty by association. So far the only thing it's fair to assume is that they likely knew what he was up to and failed to stop it. Both men we already know are pieces of shit in terms of personal morality so this should not come as a surprise.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Which does not implicate Trump as someone who had sex with any of Epstein's victims. There's been a lot of time here, and many victims (50+ by now) who have come forward over Epstein. None has claimed they had sex with Trump or Clinton. When I hear that a victim has accused one of them, that will change things. Until then, neither man is guilty by association. So far the only thing it's fair to assume is that they likely knew what he was up to and failed to stop it. Both men we already know are pieces of shit in terms of personal morality so this should not come as a surprise.
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Yes, I get that. But of either man, this puts the danger closer to Trump than Clinton, who is NEVER mentioned.
 
Amused said:
Gotta love all the desperate unsubstantiated Clinton deflections going on here while just yesterday, this dropped in the document dump from a previous Epstein trial:

Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victim’s recruitment at Mar-a-Lago

https://www.politico.com/story/2019...jtLQtMcVcC0Pg050CVCkw7eOCCOzEQe6AyhgwkK9EtPtw

A trove of court documents unsealed Friday detail allegations by an alleged victim of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein that while working as a teenage locker room attendant at President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort nearly two decades ago she was recruited to give Epstein massages that often involved sexual activity.
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What deflection. Both presidents were involved with Epstein and I think both are suspect in his murder. There are many powerful people including two frikin presidents for crying out loud that didn’t want this going to trial as they would surely be brought up and it’s highly likely both men enjoyed what Epstein offered. If the media simply accepts this as a "suicide" and moves on journalism is dead.
 
compuwiz1 said:
There are lots of bodies around lots of politicians. I don't trust any of them to not have some evil skeletons. Money & Power does things to people. It's very easy to get people out of your way, when you have money and are connected. Harry Reid had an accident, Mitch McConnell had an accident, etc, etc...
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Yep. People ignore it and accept the excuses that pop up and move on instead of digging deeper which is a shame. There’s no such thing as a clean politician.
 
UglyCasanova said:
What deflection. Both presidents were involved with Epstein and I think both are suspect in his murder. There are many powerful people including two frikin presidents for crying out loud that didn’t want this going to trial as they would surely be brought up and it’s highly likely both men enjoyed what Epstein offered. If the media simply accepts this as a "suicide" and moves on journalism is dead.
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Deflection?

This is factual evidence from a document dump yesterday, the day before he was found dead. Of all evidence and doc dumps, this is the ONLY evidence that comes close to Trump. None even mention Clinton or comes close to him directly.

And having your private club used as recruiting grounds for a well known predator is pretty shame inducing, at the very least.

But OK.
 
UglyCasanova said:
What deflection. Both presidents were involved with Epstein and I think both are suspect in his murder. There are many powerful people including two frikin presidents for crying out loud that didn’t want this going to trial as they would surely be brought up and it’s highly likely both men enjoyed what Epstein offered. If the media simply accepts this as a "suicide" and moves on journalism is dead.
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