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Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide at Manhattan Jail

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zzyzxroad said:
Well that tells you how far-fetched other theories are. As far as I can tell Barr and Epstein had not association. If Barr was not directly in jeopardy form Epstein squealing, I can't imagine he would risk losing his freedom in a plot to off him. While that scenario isn't impossible, it is highly unlikely.
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Not for his own sake. He's the GOP's bagman.
 
zzyzxroad said:
Well that tells you how far-fetched other theories are. As far as I can tell Barr and Epstein had not association. If Barr was not directly in jeopardy form Epstein squealing, I can't imagine he would risk losing his freedom in a plot to off him. While that scenario isn't impossible, it is highly unlikely.
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If they have no association, how come one hears of Epstein and Barr linked together so frequently, eh? Just google Epstein Barr - millions of hits!
 
cytg111 said:
Its becoming a theme

www.independent.co.uk

Jeffrey Epstein associate Jean-Luc Brunel found dead in cell

Detained associate of late billionaire faced charge of underage rape
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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I mean I am not one for conspiracies...



(But I sure as fuck would like to know what Bill Barrs visit to Epstein was about... juuust before he suicided... "listen son, this is what is going to happen to your family x y z unless you hang yourself in this rope")
 
BoomerD said:
Why is Gislane still alive? I would have thought she'd have been suicided long before now.
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I was thinking she's like that cursed sailor in the Ancient Mariner - everyone she is close to ends up killing themselves (in slightly shady circumstances).
 
pmv said:
I was thinking she's like that cursed sailor in the Ancient Mariner - everyone she is close to ends up killing themselves (in slightly shady circumstances).
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I suspect she has detailed documentation of all the dirty deeds done, maybe with photos...sitting in the safe of her lawyer's office...to be released upon her death...or conviction.
 
BoomerD said:
I suspect she has detailed documentation of all the dirty deeds done, maybe with photos...sitting in the safe of her lawyer's office...to be released upon her death...or conviction.
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I was thinking something less rationally-explicable. After all, the pattern of debatable suicides started with her own father. Starts to look like the plot from the Omen movies.
 
TheVrolok said:
I mean prison suicide is 4 times more likely than it is in the general population, and these are dudes who went from absolute power to none soooo... I'm not sure we really need a conspiracy.
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If there is no video there is a conspiracy. Yet another "suicide" with nobody watching and no tape?
 
HomerJS said:
If there is no video there is a conspiracy. Yet another "suicide" with nobody watching and no tape?
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This comes down to Occam's Razor, you think "they" can "suicide" a high profile person and no one says anything? The number of every day guys who are guards/involved in prison security who would have to know something was up and not say anything? Nah.
 
TheVrolok said:
The number of every day guys who are guards/involved in prison security who would have to know something was up and not say anything? Nah.
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Corruption and outright criminal behavior among prison guards is fairly common. They don't make a lot of money, so if someone offers them a year's salary or more, it's not at all unreasonable for them to go take a few extra bathroom breaks.
 
blackangst1 said:
Good question. Same with Bill Clinton or Trump.
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Actually it wasn't a good question, it was a...oh, never mind.

(Though, significantly for this pandemic era, the two of them are always mentioned in association with a virus....how deep does this conspiracy go?)
 
TheVrolok said:
This comes down to Occam's Razor, you think "they" can "suicide" a high profile person and no one says anything? The number of every day guys who are guards/involved in prison security who would have to know something was up and not say anything? Nah.
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So you're saying it's just coincidence that Epstein and Brunel both committed suicide while in custody...and the surveillance cameras watching both of them just happened to go on the fritz while they did? 😵

Nah, someone (maybe a cabal of someones) wanted both of them silenced before they could cut a deal. It wouldn't be as difficult to do as you think...
 
BoomerD said:
So you're saying it's just coincidence that Epstein and Brunel both committed suicide while in custody...and the surveillance cameras watching both of them just happened to go on the fritz while they did? 😵

Nah, someone (maybe a cabal of someones) wanted both of them silenced before they could cut a deal. It wouldn't be as difficult to do as you think...
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Yup. How come Ghislaine is still alive? It's so easy, and she obviously knows the same information.
 
TheVrolok said:
Yup. How come Ghislaine is still alive? It's so easy, and she obviously knows the same information.
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Maybe, following what happened to Jeff, she was smart enough to put the necessary protection evidence in hiding with a lawyer...to be released to the press should anything happen to her?
I really don't know...in fact, I asked the same question here already...but there's not a chance I'll ever believe Epstein intentionally killed himself...and the cameras "malfunctioned," or the guards somehow didn't check on him.
 
If you go from jet setter to jail sitter, it would definitely be on your mind to 'escape' that hell.

But JE fully believed the earlier deal would protect him from prosecution, so he had hope to be released sooner than later.

Not sure about this other guy.
 
cytg111 said:
I mean I am not one for conspiracies...



(But I sure as fuck would like to know what Bill Barrs visit to Epstein was about... juuust before he suicided... "listen son, this is what is going to happen to your family x y z unless you hang yourself in this rope")
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Barr is a piece of shit but wasn't that visit story debunked?
 
Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
Corruption and outright criminal behavior among prison guards is fairly common. They don't make a lot of money, so if someone offers them a year's salary or more, it's not at all unreasonable for them to go take a few extra bathroom breaks.
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BS. That's opinion, not fact. Provide some REAL proof that "corruption and outright criminal behavior among prison guards is fairly common." There are ten of thousand guards in the US-if such behavior was common there would be at least a hundred arrests of guards a month.

BYW in my state at least guards make roughly the same as police-good steady wages for a job that doesn't require a college degree.
 
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