Jeep kills diesel Liberty in U.S.

[eits]

as long as republicans hold our country hostage, crap like this will continue to happen.

 

[drnickriviera]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: drnickriviera

I've been waiting for a small diesel for a looooong time. Ford was rumored to be working on one when I was shopping for a truck in 01', but that never came to life. I ended up with a Ram 2500 diesel.

I was talking with my neighbor who has a toyo truck. He's only getting 22mpg with a I-4. I thought that was pathetic considering i'm getting 18+-.


The last issue of TDR had an article on the new ultra low sulfer diesels. Right now we are running 500ppm. The new standard will be 15ppm. It says Euro standard is 50ppm.

Looks like there may be some issues with fuel lubricity and seal compatability.

Why would their be issues? It's possible that the sulphur acts as a lubricant, but what would affect seals?

I dunno, maybe you can make better sense of the article than I can.

"First let's look closer at the aromatic content and seal compatability issue. By definition, aromatic content is characterized by the presence of the benzene family in the hydrocarbon compunds that occur naturally in the refining of diesel fuels. In the chemical makeup of fuel, the heavier aromatic compunds of toluene, xylene, and hapthalene also are present. Limiting these aromatic compunds has the effect of reducing burning temperature and thus NOx formation.

Unfortunately there is nothing an owner can do to prevent seal leakage. If the fuel injection pump or fuel transfer pump was built or remanfactured using a nitril-type rubber seal it is a likely candidate for leakage"

"It is not that the sulfur has any qualities that add to a fuel's lubricity, but rather, it is the hydrotreating process that removes the sulfer also removes some of the lubricatin properties in the fuel"

It goes on to talk about the fuel companies are supposed to add lubricants to the fuel.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Pablo

Originally posted by: Citrix
i knew there were no diesel liberties or Cherokees.

Diesel libertys have been on sale in the US for several years.

It was a new option in 2005, which means it was available 2 years (05 and 06).

Besides the motor was complete trash. It got 25 mpg (rated at 21/27) as opposed to the 6 cylinder which got around 20 (rated at 18/23 or so) And as someone else said, the vehicle as a whole was trash.

Yeah, the Liberty IS trash. It was bad enough Jeep had to turn an icon into a cute-ute with independent suspension, but it gets the same gas mileage as a Grand Cherokee to boot. I guess the Germans are finally winning, and the sun will set on the Willys Jeep.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: Eltano1
I just came back from Europe (Germany, Austria and Italy), where I rented a VW (Phaeton), and I did not realized that it was Diesel until I need to refuel it. Great mpg and better performance, I put the car up to 200 km/h (about 120 MPH) without any problem. I wish we have more of those engines here.

Eltano

Thats not the problem, the problem is the fact that america is full with dumbasses who think dirty burning diesel fuel is a good idea..

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: Eltano1
I just came back from Europe (Germany, Austria and Italy), where I rented a VW (Phaeton), and I did not realized that it was Diesel until I need to refuel it. Great mpg and better performance, I put the car up to 200 km/h (about 120 MPH) without any problem. I wish we have more of those engines here.

Eltano

Thats not the problem, the problem is the fact that america is full with dumbasses who think dirty burning diesel fuel is a good idea..

They are not dirty anymore. granted not as clean as modern gas engines but you can not compare the emission of a modern diesel to a old one.