Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8 spy shots

[Nebor]

Dodge is clinging to the hemi for dear life. It's all that's keeping them alive.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: DEMO24
that exhaust is MESSED UP! this thing aint a Ferrari or a lambo why the freak has it got center exhaust:disgust:

Porsche Boxster
Crossfire
MINI Cooper S
Corvette

All have center exhausts.

add viper to the list 😛
the GTS did anyways

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Dodge is clinging to the hemi for dear life. It's all that's keeping them alive.

By that thougth process, Chrsyler clung to life on the PT Cruiser, 5.2L, Cummins diesel, etc. Saying that the hemi is holding up DCX is like saying the 3.5: is the only thing holding up Nissan.

 

[sniperruff]

i still don't get why would you need a "performance" model of a SUV. where are you going to use the extra power? on a track? putting 500ft-lb of torque in wet dirt? merging into your interstate?

they should just focus on making cars more reliable. but i guess they just want to make more money so that would be against their wish.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't get why would you need a "performance" model of a SUV. where are you going to use the extra power? on a track? putting 500ft-lb of torque in wet dirt? merging into your interstate?

they should just focus on making cars more reliable. but i guess they just want to make more money so that would be against their wish.

Because power is fun, no matter the size. I cannot expect Civic or Rio drivers to understand this.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: DEMO24
that exhaust is MESSED UP! this thing aint a Ferrari or a lambo why the freak has it got center exhaust:disgust:

Porsche Boxster
Crossfire
MINI Cooper S
Corvette

All have center exhausts.

add viper to the list 😛
the GTS did anyways

There should be a tow hitch there, not friggin' exhausts!! :|:|

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Nebor
Dodge is clinging to the hemi for dear life. It's all that's keeping them alive.

By that thougth process, Chrsyler clung to life on the PT Cruiser, 5.2L, Cummins diesel, etc. Saying that the hemi is holding up DCX is like saying the 3.5: is the only thing holding up Nissan.

First, Chrysler = Dodge. Second, show me a Dodge commercial that doesn't say, "And the all new hemi powered xxxxx." It's their only bit of excitement. It's all they've got.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't get why would you need a "performance" model of a SUV. where are you going to use the extra power? on a track? putting 500ft-lb of torque in wet dirt? merging into your interstate?

they should just focus on making cars more reliable. but i guess they just want to make more money so that would be against their wish.

Because power is fun, no matter the size. I cannot expect Civic or Rio drivers to understand this.

Obviously you've never seen the 300hp Kia Rio SXT. 0-60 in 4.0s.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Nebor
Dodge is clinging to the hemi for dear life. It's all that's keeping them alive.

By that thougth process, Chrsyler clung to life on the PT Cruiser, 5.2L, Cummins diesel, etc. Saying that the hemi is holding up DCX is like saying the 3.5: is the only thing holding up Nissan.

First, Chrysler = Dodge. Second, show me a Dodge commercial that doesn't say, "And the all new hemi powered xxxxx." It's their only bit of excitement. It's all they've got.

i think he knows that chrysler = dodge considering how the 5.2 and the cummins aren't offered on any chrysler branded products

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: sniperruff
i still don't get why would you need a "performance" model of a SUV. where are you going to use the extra power? on a track? putting 500ft-lb of torque in wet dirt? merging into your interstate?

they should just focus on making cars more reliable. but i guess they just want to make more money so that would be against their wish.

Because power is fun, no matter the size. I cannot expect Civic or Rio drivers to understand this.

it's not fun if you're on the receiving end of a 2-ton block of steel, which happens quite often. and now the 2-ton steel object has even more power and more impact maximizing head injury! horray!

seriously they should just stop making SUV's.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Nebor
Dodge is clinging to the hemi for dear life. It's all that's keeping them alive.

By that thougth process, Chrsyler clung to life on the PT Cruiser, 5.2L, Cummins diesel, etc. Saying that the hemi is holding up DCX is like saying the 3.5: is the only thing holding up Nissan.

First, Chrysler = Dodge. Second, show me a Dodge commercial that doesn't say, "And the all new hemi powered xxxxx." It's their only bit of excitement. It's all they've got.

i think he knows that chrysler = dodge considering how the 5.2 and the cummins aren't offered on any chrysler branded products

Well consider that the 2.4l in the PT cruiser has a 9.4:1 compression ratio. 😕

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Nebor
Dodge is clinging to the hemi for dear life. It's all that's keeping them alive.

By that thougth process, Chrsyler clung to life on the PT Cruiser, 5.2L, Cummins diesel, etc. Saying that the hemi is holding up DCX is like saying the 3.5: is the only thing holding up Nissan.

First, Chrysler = Dodge. Second, show me a Dodge commercial that doesn't say, "And the all new hemi powered xxxxx." It's their only bit of excitement. It's all they've got.

Not to me. The Cummins Turbo Diesel 6-cylinder is the only reason why I give a an F about Dodge right now. If I were to buy a full-size truck right now, it would without a doubt be the Ram 2500 Diesel.

Oh and this thread is about Jeep, not Dodge you noob.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
So why did the go with a center exhaust and fsck up any towing capabilities? (serious question).

Because I am positive that the towing capability would have been much lower than a std. Hemi. Look at the 5.9L Grand Cherokee in 1998, it had a significantly lower towing capability than the 5.2L because they put an electric cooling fan in place of a mechanical fan to capture more of the power sucked away by the accessories.[/quote]
Well, what you say here makes positively no sense. Both the 5.2 in 1997, and the 5.9 in 1998 (the first year for that engine) were rated to tow 5000lb trailers.
In 4x4 trim, the two trucks were withing 50lbs of each other's curb weight.

And exactly what does putting an electric fan on instead of a belt driven fan have to do with towing capacity?
What engine-driven accessories did the 5.9 have that the 5.2 didn't? None. Plus, the 5.9 had more power than the 5.2, so if anything, they put the electric fan there either to make the engine even more powerful than the 5.2, OR (more likely) because there wasn't as much room for a regular fan with the 5.9.

Either way, the towing capacity was the same.

 

[upsciLLion]

It needs 6" of lift and 35s.

 

[Jpark]

Originally posted by: upsciLLion
It needs 6" of lift and 35s.

I don't know about that extreme. But is it me or has all SUV's been lowered, I mean this is supposed to be a 4 wheel drive vehicle that is supposed to possibly go off road at some point in its life. To me all the new SUV's besides fugly hummers look like glorified mini-vans. I'm sticking with my wrangler.

 

[Scouzer]

exhaust and wheels are horrible.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
So why did the go with a center exhaust and fsck up any towing capabilities? (serious question).

Because I am positive that the towing capability would have been much lower than a std. Hemi. Look at the 5.9L Grand Cherokee in 1998, it had a significantly lower towing capability than the 5.2L because they put an electric cooling fan in place of a mechanical fan to capture more of the power sucked away by the accessories.

Well, what you say here makes positively no sense. Both the 5.2 in 1997, and the 5.9 in 1998 (the first year for that engine) were rated to tow 5000lb trailers.
In 4x4 trim, the two trucks were withing 50lbs of each other's curb weight.

And exactly what does putting an electric fan on instead of a belt driven fan have to do with towing capacity?
What engine-driven accessories did the 5.9 have that the 5.2 didn't? None. Plus, the 5.9 had more power than the 5.2, so if anything, they put the electric fan there either to make the engine even more powerful than the 5.2, OR (more likely) because there wasn't as much room for a regular fan with the 5.9.

Either way, the towing capacity was the same.
[/quote]


Capacity was NOT the same. The 5.9L(available in 1998 only) had a rating of 5,000lbs, correct, but a 5.2L has a rating of 6,700lbs. Look on MSN Autos. the 4.0L had a higher towing capacity than the 5.9L. And it was all because of the cooling fan.

An electrical fan cannot cool off the engine as well as a mechanical can, but you can eliminate more parasitic power loss. Most other parts of the 5.2L and 5.9L are the same, including dimensions, for the most part. Space was not the issue, because many people swap mechanical fans into their 5.9Ls.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Well consider that the 2.4l in the PT cruiser has a 9.4:1 compression ratio. 😕

i have no idea where you're going with that one :beer:

 

[maziwanka]

i think it will be pretty sweet when it debuts.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Dodge is clinging to the hemi for dear life. It's all that's keeping them alive.

I don't think so, I think it's mother Benz that's keeping them alive.
Ford is the domestic company that is in trouble, not DCX.

 

[rh71]

I've always thought Grand CHerokees were ugly but this one is a lot better. Especially the front end and the rims add to it. The rear is worse than before though... too boxy.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Dodge is clinging to the hemi for dear life. It's all that's keeping them alive.

:roll: If by Dodge, you mean Chrysler, then you're out of your mind if you think a motor is what's keeping them alive rather than solid new cars that are above current American crap car standards

 

[bentwookie]

anyone else think it looks like a bmw X5?
http://www.automotriz.net/imag...1024-768-BMW-X5-02.jpg

 

[JDub02]

any info on it? specs?

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: bentwookie
anyone else think it looks like a bmw X5?
http://www.automotriz.net/imag...1024-768-BMW-X5-02.jpg

The X5 4.8is is my dream car so I know it well... you're sorta right... but the curves are entirely different. They did almost match the front end outside of the grill and headlamps.