Jeb Bush will get rid of net neutrality rules

[Strk]

The proliferation of this kinds of stuff is really starting to get scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeCj4y36UKM&feature=youtu.be

Not so much just for net neutrality, but the way in which misinformation and deceitful propaganda is blatantly being fed to Americans by the elite and their political lap dogs. Even if all it does is create confusion, it succeeds.

I think the funny part about that ad or whatever you want to call it is how truthful it actually is (I.e. billion dollar company doesn't get more speed/access than some blogger in his basement). It is just done in such a way to make it sound bad.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The proliferation of this kinds of stuff is really starting to get scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeCj4y36UKM&feature=youtu.be

Not so much just for net neutrality, but the way in which misinformation and deceitful propaganda is blatantly being fed to Americans by the elite and their political lap dogs. Even if all it does is create confusion, it succeeds.

What's really frustrating is all the "I'm a Republican but..." comments on these net neutrality articles. They can see through the BS on this one issue but are unwilling/unable to see it's the exact same BS process at work as on nearly every other issue that keeps them Republican.

 

[BxgJ]

They won't regulate content. They will regulate infrastructure.

It's probably about time they did.

Until recently I lived in a fairly small town of about 1200, with another 2k or so in the surrounding area. It wasn't in the middle of nowhere, only 11 miles from a city and interstate. Yet to this day there are zero landline broadband options. About 3 years ago a fixed wireless provider finally began to offer service, but only to those who had line of sight to the cell tower in town, as any number of trees in the way would block the signal. I was fortunate I could get a good enough signal to get the 'best' package, 5mb down 2mb up. All for the low, low price of $100. :\ At least it didn't have a cap. Before that I was stuck with using a cellular hotspot, taped to the window to get better signal. That of course was $10 per gb.

Yes it's a small town in Texas, so of the people I know there more of them vote R than not. It was incredibly frustrating to hear them regurgitate talking points of how any regulation of the telco/cable providers was horrible, yet complain of how limited their selection of internet options was. It just wouldn't click, even when I would bring it up in the very same conversation.

So now living with a 50/5 cable connection, with the option to go to 100/10, I know I could never go back. It's so nice to not have to chase the kids off of netflix or youtube when I want to game.

 

[Strk]

It's probably about time they did.

Until recently I lived in a fairly small town of about 1200, with another 2k or so in the surrounding area. It wasn't in the middle of nowhere, only 11 miles from a city and interstate. Yet to this day there are zero landline broadband options. About 3 years ago a fixed wireless provider finally began to offer service, but only to those who had line of sight to the cell tower in town, as any number of trees in the way would block the signal. I was fortunate I could get a good enough signal to get the 'best' package, 5mb down 2mb up. All for the low, low price of $100. :\ At least it didn't have a cap. Before that I was stuck with using a cellular hotspot, taped to the window to get better signal. That of course was $10 per gb.

Yes it's a small town in Texas, so of the people I know there more of them vote R than not. It was incredibly frustrating to hear them regurgitate talking points of how any regulation of the telco/cable providers was horrible, yet complain of how limited their selection of internet options was. It just wouldn't click, even when I would bring it up in the very same conversation.

So now living with a 50/5 cable connection, with the option to go to 100/10, I know I could never go back. It's so nice to not have to chase the kids off of netflix or youtube when I want to game.

Or how about asking them how they feel about having to buy a package with 67 other channels when they only want to watch 2?

 

[Jhhnn]

No. Government helping people undermines the core of their ideology.

And there it is- the simple truth.

 

[Ken g6]

As to Net Neutrality if the FCC starts regulating the net then they're going to impose their same set of regulations on the net as they do on broadcast.

Nah, they won't regulate it any more than they regulate cable. Probably less.

So you folks can kiss off your porn because it'll be banned.

Considering what's shown on HBO, I don't expect anything like that.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

And there it is- the simple truth.

And it's an absolute failure of our "liberal" media that despite that plainly apparent truth the Republican party is still regarded as a legitimate governing party. You'd be better suited getting an atheist to lead Bible study than a Republican to govern for the benefit of the people.

 

[sm625]

Lately it seems net neutrality has become a tool used exclusively to boost the stock price of NFLX.

 

[trenchfoot]

And it's an absolute failure of our "liberal" media that despite that plainly apparent truth the Republican party is still regarded as a legitimate governing party. You'd be better suited getting an atheist to lead Bible study than a Republican to govern for the benefit of the people.

And that's what really gets me about the Repub ideology. On the one hand they preach incessantly about "personal responsibility". On the other they are more than happy to give their very rich benefactors the ability to freely ship jobs overseas that makes it ever more difficult for the middle class and the poor to exercise their "personal responsibility". Add to that the Repubs think there's nothing wrong about giving the rich more and ever more tax cuts and the ability to hoard profits overseas to avoid paying their fair share of taxes that further restricts the middle class and the poor to exercise their "personal responsibility" by forcing them to pay higher and higher taxes to make up for those tax cuts and loopholes they bless the rich with.

Bottom line? The Repubs in Congress keep making it harder and harder for the middle class and the poor to raise their quality of life and secure a bigger share of the American dream while, in the same way the American royalty look at the peasants they believe they rule over, these Repub pols look down their noses at the working class and justify their corrupted ways by declaring that "they should just exercise better personal responsibility".

The Repub's actions in Congress forces the working class to rely more and more on the social services provided by the government while these same Repubs fight very hard to take those same social services away. Go figure.

Bastards, the whole lot of them.

 

[JSt0rm]

It's probably about time they did.

Until recently I lived in a fairly small town of about 1200, with another 2k or so in the surrounding area. It wasn't in the middle of nowhere, only 11 miles from a city and interstate. Yet to this day there are zero landline broadband options. About 3 years ago a fixed wireless provider finally began to offer service, but only to those who had line of sight to the cell tower in town, as any number of trees in the way would block the signal. I was fortunate I could get a good enough signal to get the 'best' package, 5mb down 2mb up. All for the low, low price of $100. :\ At least it didn't have a cap. Before that I was stuck with using a cellular hotspot, taped to the window to get better signal. That of course was $10 per gb.

Yes it's a small town in Texas, so of the people I know there more of them vote R than not. It was incredibly frustrating to hear them regurgitate talking points of how any regulation of the telco/cable providers was horrible, yet complain of how limited their selection of internet options was. It just wouldn't click, even when I would bring it up in the very same conversation.

So now living with a 50/5 cable connection, with the option to go to 100/10, I know I could never go back. It's so nice to not have to chase the kids off of netflix or youtube when I want to game.

So what about the free markets deciding if your small town should have broadband?

 

[werepossum]

You have to admire a man who can so seamlessly combine the absolute worst of both parties. And by admire, I mean dispise, of course.

You are underestimating Rove, Koch, Murdoch, and pretty much the entire GOP establishment who utterly hates Trump. Everybody else, including Fiorina, except Carson, is just a meat shield for Bush.

Unless this gets everywhere, and the entire GOP revolts, Bush will be the GOP nominee.

Pretty much. And there is no likely Dem candidate, not even the Hildabeast, who would entice me into voting for Bush. If that's the way the GOP wants to go, fuck 'em.

 

[LegendKiller]

You have to admire a man who can so seamlessly combine the absolute worst of both parties. And by admire, I mean dispise, of course.


Pretty much. And there is no likely Dem candidate, not even the Hildabeast, who would entice me into voting for Bush. If that's the way the GOP wants to go, fuck 'em.

This. I am fed up with their bs to the point I will just vote for her over bush. He is marginally more revolting than her.

 

[BxgJ]

So what about the free markets deciding if your small town should have broadband?

If I brought up that point I usually got some response about the telco/cable providers being overly regulated. :hmm:

From what I have read, the big telcos, mainly Verizon but also At&t, have been trying to distance themselves from landline broadband, including getting out of previous agreements to provide it. It seems that the profits from wireless are too great, and probably have a much faster ROI, for them to be interested in longer term investments such as landline broadband. The people hit hardest by this would obviously be rural and small town residents, though not them exclusively.

I haven't heard as much about the cable providers, but I would guess that their interest in servicing these areas would be low.

Maybe I'm just not sure why we can have universal (or nearly so) electric service, while not at least trying to do so for landline internet. And before anyone mentions the cost of electric service, the majority of that is for things other than t&d (transmission and distribution), the cost of getting the electricity to your house.

 

[Sonikku]

The propaganda war continues.

https://youtu.be/VcYyK6MhIfM

 

[BxgJ]

The propaganda war continues.

https://youtu.be/VcYyK6MhIfM

D:

Who is actually advocating for govt control like that? Jeez.

 

[dank69]

Every single GOP candidate would get rid of net neutrality. Except for MAYBE Rand, but I'm not even sure about that.

The propaganda war continues.

https://youtu.be/VcYyK6MhIfM

Following the link to the website for the group that produced that video confirms that Rand Fucking Paul is against Net Neutrality.