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Jeb Bush Suggests Getting Rid Of Medicare

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From: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/07/23/3683804/jeb-bush-medicare/

GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush suggested that the United States should figure out a way to “phase out” Medicare, the federal program that provides insurance to more than 50 million elderly and disabled people, at a political event on Wednesday night.

MSNBC reports that Bush was speaking at event sponsored by Americans for Prosperity, a right-wing group backed by the billionaire Koch Brothers that has doggedly advocated against fully implementing the Affordable Care Act.

In his comments, Bush referenced Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) politically contentious plan to radically restructure the Medicare program — which independent analysts predicted would more than double health costs for the average 65-year-old — and criticized progressive lawmakers for failing to engage with Ryan’s proposals. Despite recent evidence that the program’s finances are secure, the former Florida governor suggested that Medicare isn’t solvent.

“I think a lot of people recognize that we need to make sure we fulfill the commitment to people that have already received the benefits, that are receiving the benefits. But that we need to figure out a way to phase out this program for others and move to a new system that allows them to have something — because they’re not going to have anything,” Bush said.

As MSNBC’s Steve Benen points out, the position that the United States should end Medicare altogether is radical even among Republicans, who typically avoid taking the stance that the massive federal health program should be eliminated.


Just another page from the GOP playbook defined perfectly in my sig.
 
1: Despite recent evidence that the program’s finances are secure, the former Florida governor suggested that Medicare isn’t solvent.

Is it Medicare "secure" and/or solvent?

2: In his comments, Bush referenced Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) politically contentious plan to radically restructure the Medicare program.


I want to learn more about what they want to change. To debate the merits of that.
 
I want to know what they want to replace it with.

If we are on our way to a single payer system, by all means... tear down that wall along with medicaid. along with ACA... along with all this confusing shit where everyone hands them a stupid ID card saying they have insurance, and then they send them a bill - no idea how the calculations came to be, and simply pays the bill because it's too fucking confusing.
 
It would add 1 trillion per year to the deficit to "phase out" medicare, because the only way to phase out medicare is to provide to everyone the same deductibles and co pays as medicare.
 
That's astoundingly stupid.

Sweet freaking Jebsu- He might as well just slit his own throat on the altar of right wing ideology.
 
1: Despite recent evidence that the program’s finances are secure, the former Florida governor suggested that Medicare isn’t solvent.

Is it Medicare "secure" and/or solvent?

2: In his comments, Bush referenced Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) politically contentious plan to radically restructure the Medicare program.


I want to learn more about what they want to change. To debate the merits of that.

I'll bet you've lost a lot of money playing 3 card monte.
 
So the plan is to resurrect unpopular ideas from the previous failed presidential bid that served largely as ammunition for the opposition and hope it works out this time. 😵

A bold and counterintuitive strategy.
 
Ha, good luck with that. Greece is completely insolvent and their banks are running out of cash, yet they still can't cut spending. It's politically impossible to cut these programs. The government convinced millions of people to not save anything for retirement. Pulling the carpet would cause an armed revolution.

I have an awesome idea. Let's remove all gun laws, wait 5 years, and then completely cancel medicare and social security. Life would suddenly be a lot more interesting.
 
Like Nixon opened China, Jeb Bush is going to get us universal health care. Think of it-he can abolish Medicare and Obamacare and preserve his place is posterity.

The thought is far more appealing than a Bush War III (C).
 
Ha, good luck with that. Greece is completely insolvent and their banks are running out of cash, yet they still can't cut spending. It's politically impossible to cut these programs. The government convinced millions of people to not save anything for retirement. Pulling the carpet would cause an armed revolution.

I have an awesome idea. Let's remove all gun laws, wait 5 years, and then completely cancel medicare and social security. Life would suddenly be a lot more interesting.

We're not Greece, never will be unless Repubs can find a way to go back on the Gold Standard.

That's another of their brilliant ideas.

We went way beyond "every man for himself" a long time ago with risk & load sharing institutions like SS & Medicare. It's casually referred to as progress everywhere but the right wing.
 
I don't see why Hillary even needs to campaign. Sitting back and watching the republican candidates shoot themselves in the foot (while it's in their mouth) should be more than adequate to win.
 
I don't see why Hillary even needs to campaign. Sitting back and watching the republican candidates shoot themselves in the foot (while it's in their mouth) should be more than adequate to win.

Seriously.. but her biggest challenge is going to come from within her own party.
 
So when Republicans claim to support the middle class, what they hell do they actually mean by this. Every policy they propose is completely counter to this principle.
 
All I know is I paid into these programs and I will expect my money back plus compound interest at a average return in the stock market.
 
I don't see why Hillary even needs to campaign. Sitting back and watching the republican candidates shoot themselves in the foot (while it's in their mouth) should be more than adequate to win.

You are assuming Americans are smart enough to vote their self interest.
 
Jeb may I suggest a new system be devised and approved before ending the old system.

http://paulryan.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=9969


GOP's new system to replace Medicare, IS, drum roll...

Moreover, it would set up a carefully monitored exchange for Medicare plans. Health plans that chose to participate in the Medicare Exchange would agree to offer insurance to all Medicare beneficiaries, to avoid cherry-picking, and to ensure that Medicare’s sickest and highest-cost beneficiaries receive coverage.

Obamacare!!! 🙂
 
The reality is Medicare is only in financial trouble if it does nothing about costs. Republicans pass laws like prescription drug ban on price negotiation that prevent Medicare doing anything about costs. Then they complain that Medicare is too expensive and unsustainable. These people are schizophrenic.
 
We should have gotten a single payer system from the get-go. No Medicare, No FEHB, No Medicaid, No Tricare. The Federal government and State can subsidize differently for different classes of people. Poor, Retired, Veteran etc.
 
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