Japan's PM backs US rejection of Kyoto treaty

[FrontlineWarrior]

The best ways to lower CO2 emissions are:

exercise less (less oxygen consumption)
eat more meat (less CO2 emitting animals)
fart less (less methane emission)
talk to trees (CO2 gets taken up by plants before escaping to the atmosphere)

 

[AndrewR]

Damn it -- we need a treaty to ban volcanos!

 

[sandorski]

The problem or lack thereof with the "volcanoe" issue, is that nature has been and always will be able, to handle such occurances. It is our sythetically produced gases, that are ever increasing, and produced at a minimum constant rate that poses a problem for nature. Nature isn't designed/evolved to handle the load that man adds to it.

Perhaps there wouldn't be a problem if we could prevent volcanoes from erupting, but since we can't, each eruption has the increased potential of pushing the earth's systems beyond what would be normal cyclic activity. Though our emissions seem rather beniegn(sp), you should note that altering the oxygen levels on Earth only a few percent could cause humanities extinction.

It doesn't take much or may take a lot, we don't know any precise quantities yet. We do know enough though to be concerned. Eventually we'll cause a saturation to occur, if we are not carefull. If and when that happens, it will probably be too late to do anything about it.

 

[Shantanu]

Czar: You have got to be the most worthless poster on this board. Every post I've seen from you is "America sucks. Europe is good." If you hate America so much, why are you posting on an American message board?

sandorski: Oxygen levels have fluctuated many times in the past without adversely affecting the Biosphere. I think what you meant to say was that CO2 levels are fluctuating, which is typically what enviro-weenies whine about all the time. That too has fluctuated plenty in the past, and the current upward trend has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years (read: before the invention of automobiles). Read up on the subject first, before making such absurd claims.

 

[etech]

Volcanos can cool the earths temperature.
The Year Without a Summer

Czar
"We do know enough though to be concerned. "

We know enough to be aware of the possibility, it has not been proven yet. It definitely has not been proven well enough to throw the US economy into a recession and move the manufacturing and jobs to China. Which I might add would not reduce pollution levels at all but would increase it due to the Chinese less stringent environmental rules.