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Dari said:
I mean is she a Korean born in Japan? Sometimes Koreans born in Japan use their Korean name in America. Sometimes they use their Japanese name.

To me, the subject matter of suicide to a bunch of immature undergrad Americans is not the right way to approach the subject of death or the next world. I cannot think of any reason why this would be discussed. Like I said in my OP in this thread, suicides are decreasing so it's not a big deal. Now, bullying is.
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Nope, shes definitely Japanese. All of them are Japanese women from the Kansai region.

"immature" undergrad Americans? That was nice. 😛


We've talked about bullying too...
We talk about Japanese Pop Culture too...
Vending Machines....

Pretty much everything.

Not sure I would describe my classmates as "immature" though (or anyone trying to learn Japanese Culture). Being from a different culture that doesn't understand another culture's understanding of death does not make you "immature".

Wanting to learn about it is actually a sign of maturity. Having pre-conceived notions doesn't make you are bad person. We all have pre-conceived notions about things.


That's a good thing, right?

Are you Japanese?
 
SheHateMe said:
Nope, shes definitely Japanese. All of them are Japanese women from the Kansai region.

"immature" undergrad Americans? That was nice. 😛


We've talked about bullying too...
We talk about Japanese Pop Culture too...
Vending Machines....

Pretty much everything.

Not sure I would describe my classmates as "immature" though (or anyone trying to learn Japanese Culture). Being from a different culture that doesn't understand another culture's understanding of death does not make you "immature".

Wanting to learn about it is actually a sign of maturity. Having pre-conceived notions doesn't make you are bad person. We all have pre-conceived notions about things.


That's a good thing, right?

Are you Japanese?
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Kansai? Makes sense. People there are more outgoing, funnier, more engaging than people from Tokyo. People from Tokyo, generally speaking, are of the serious type with little sense of humor.

Lots of Japanese comedians come from Osaka.
 
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在日 (ざいに&#12385😉 actually means "in Japan"

Using it to describe Japanese born Koreans is often considered a "slur".

If you want to describe a Korean living in Japan, you'd say "在日韓国人(ざいにちかんこくじ&#12435😉

Which literally means, "Korean people in Japan".

or if you want to speak generally about foreigners in Japan, you can say "在日外国人(ざいにちがいこくじ&#12435😉"



Dari said:
Kansai? Makes sense. People there are more outgoing, funnier, more engaging than people from Tokyo. People from Tokyo, generally speaking, are of the serious type with little sense of humor.

Lots of Japanese comedians come from Osaka.
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They do seem like fun people! To be honest, I've never met anyone from Tokyo lol. I've met tons of people from the Kansai Region. I've also made quite a few friends in the Northern Region (sorry, I can't recall the name :|) as well.
 
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Just correcting you for misusing the word. Of course you knew already....that's why you said it in the first place. 🙄
 
Just correcting you for misusing the word. Of course you knew already....that's why you said it in the first place. 🙄


*Why did you edit the "Thanks for stating the obvious" out of your post? *
 
SheHateMe said:
Just correcting you for misusing the word. Of course you knew already....that's why you said it in the first place. 🙄
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have you ever heard it used by japanese in japan? I guess they misuse it too, you should go give them a lecture.
 
SheHateMe said:
Just correcting you for misusing the word. Of course you knew already....that's why you said it in the first place. 🙄
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You said you've been in this class for 5 years? I thought undergrad was only 4 years? Are you in a graduate program now at the same university?
 
Dari said:
You said you've been in this class for 5 years? I thought undergrad was only 4 years? Are you in a graduate program now at the same university?
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Ive been taking classes there for 4. I originally took up Japanese as a self study a year before college. That mostly consisted of learning characters...then I got bored and frustrated and wanted to learn more.

The main reason I decided to study it was because I wanted to try and learn an Asian language. I'd made Chinese friends when I worked at an Amusement park, but I found it too hard to learn anything that wasn't a bad word (haha). I wanted to do Korean, but I went to the book store and found some fun books on Japanese and decided to just test the waters.



uhohs said:
have you ever heard it used by japanese in japan? I guess they misuse it too, you should go give them a lecture.
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I don't recall that statement being made. Using "Zainichi" to describe Korean born Japanese is considered a slur. Sure, I can find some Japanese people who still use it...just like I can find some Japanese people who use slang. There's a correct way to use the word.

The word's usage goes back to Japanese Imperialism in Korea.
 
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SheHateMe said:
Ive been taking classes there for 4. I originally took up Japanese as a self study a year before college. That mostly consisted of learning characters...then I got bored and frustrated and wanted to learn more.

The main reason I decided to study it was because I wanted to try and learn an Asian language. I'd made Chinese friends when I worked at an Amusement park, but I found it too hard to learn anything that wasn't a bad word (haha). I wanted to do Korean, but I went to the book store and found some fun books on Japanese and decided to just test the waters.





I don't recall that statement being made. Using "Zainichi" to describe Korean born Japanese is considered a slur. Sure, I can find some Japanese people who still use it...just like I can find some Japanese people who use slang.
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OK. Not sure if you plan on doing a graduate study on the subject but, if you do, Columbia University has an excellent program. The Donald Keene Center is there. Dr. Keene, who retired to Japan in 2011 as a show of support after the earthquake/tsunami/nuclear meltdown, is a famous Japanese scholar.
 
Dari said:
OK. Not sure if you plan on doing a graduate study on the subject but, if you do, Columbia University has an excellent program. The Donald Keene Center is there. Dr. Keene, who retired to Japan in 2011 as a show of support after the earthquake/tsunami/nuclear meltdown, is a famous Japanese scholar.
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Cool,

Actually, I am only studying Japanese to fufill the cognate requirements for my major

BUT,

I am interested in becoming fluent (is that ever possible? haha) at this point.

I've never heard of the Donald Keene Center, but I will check it out!



As far as further immersion in the language. The Japanese Department recommends that you attend this summer program

http://jcmu.isp.msu.edu/

Its pretty much what it is is a "College" in Japan for students at Michigan Colleges and Universities. Many of the Japanese instructors there are actually instructors who come back home to Japan from the US every summer for this. It's open year round, but the summer program is really popular since school is out.

I've been thinking about it.

Basically what you can do is...instead of taking Japanese at your University, you can come here in the summer and it is the equivalent of a year of classes at a University in 3.5 months.

I hear its pretty hard because it requires you to be serious. I am considering going here to repeat 4th year Japanese after I am done with the class here.
 
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SheHateMe said:
Cool,

Actually, I am only studying Japanese to fufill the cognate requirements for my major

BUT,

I am interested in becoming fluent (is that ever possible? haha) at this point.

I've never heard of the Donald Keene Center, but I will check it out!



As far as further immersion in the language. The Japanese Department recommends that you attend this summer program

http://jcmu.isp.msu.edu/

Its pretty much what it is is a "College" in Japan for students at Michigan Colleges and Universities. Many of the Japanese instructors there are actually instructors who come back home to Japan from the US every summer for this. It's open year round, but the summer program is really popular since school is out.

I've been thinking about it.

Basically what you can do is...instead of taking Japanese at your University, you can come here in the summer and it is the equivalent of a year of classes at a University in 3.5 months.

I hear its pretty hard because it requires you to be serious. I am considering going here to repeat 4th year Japanese after I am done with the class here.
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Well, they take their Japanese very seriously there. In fact, since Japan preserves a lot of east Asian history (not just Japanese), if you want to study Chinese or Korean history at Columbia, you have to learn Japanese (to be able to read the archives and old books). This is doubly so since the Chinese destroyed their own history during the disastrous Cultural Revolution.
 
hoooooooly shit. so glad I forgot about this thread. it became certifiable.

almost makes me want to go dig up a pile of old posts...but I'm not gonna. I swore off of those type of shenanigans the last time I did it.
 
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