Janklow claiming he had a "diabetic reaction" <<Update: Guilty on all counts>>

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Excusing - no. Sympathetic - a tad.

Okay....I'm not getting why you're sympathetic.

Yep - like I said, you probably won't... until it affects you...
Sympathy is an emotion - not an factor in right vs wrong.

CkG

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Fausto

Excusing - no. Sympathetic - a tad.

Okay....I'm not getting why you're sympathetic.

Yep - like I said, you probably won't... until it affects you...
Sympathy is an emotion - not an factor in right vs wrong.

CkG

So......if you're a failed artist, it's okay to have sympathy for Hitler?


<<<Godwin's Law Invoked>>>

EDIT- Obviously, I'm kidding, but hopefully you get my point.

 

[DealMonkey]

Personally, I don't see how anyone can be sympathetic in this particular case. Janklow was obviously a time-bomb waiting to go off:

CNN.com

Janklow's heavy accelerator foot is legendary with state employees who rode with him when he was governor and reporters who tagged along during disasters. Just last summer, two reporters were riding with Janklow when he made a 99 mph mad dash, through heavy smoke, down a mountain highway in the Black Hills during a raging forest fire.

Fleeing the area before the blaze made the most direct escape route inaccessible, Janklow tried to go faster, but the computer in his sport utility vehicle kept the engine from going past 99 mph.

State court records show that Janklow got 12 speeding tickets in 11 South Dakota counties from 1990 to 1994 and paid more than $1,000 in fines. He often drove 15 mph to 20 mph faster than legal speed limits and once got caught going 90 mph in a 65-mph zone.

However, Janklow has not been ticketed for speeding since October 1994, just before he was elected to his third term as governor. He served as governor from 1979-1986 and 1995-2002 before being elected to the state's lone House seat last year.

The court records, dating to 1989, also show he was fined in 1992 for following too closely. Records from previous years are not listed in the computer system.

Janklow got several speeding tickets during his first term as governor. He was warned in 1982 that he was in danger of losing his license after being stopped for going 80 mph in a 55-mph zone in Turner County. Janklow had received a similar warning in 1979 during his first year in office.

Looks like he managed to avoid any serious run-ins or tickets in the last 8-9 yrs, however his speeding and reckless driving are quite legendary.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Excusing - no. Sympathetic - a tad.

Okay....I'm not getting why you're sympathetic.

1. The guy has a history of speeding and generally dangerous habits behind the wheel.

2. Someone who's been a diagnosed diabetic since 1999 should have known better.

3. He also could have had his aide drive for him if he was feeling poorly.

4. Speeding when you're feeling poorly, but won't let your aide drive for you is a pretty goddamn bad idea.


I don't see how this was anything approaching an innocent mistake.

Well that's because you don't post in polictics and news much. Cad is an brain-dead idealogue whom defends anyone who is a republican no matter how guilty they look but his incomprehensible demagoguery is unmached when he *thinks* a Democrat made a fubar. He defended for Limbaugh in his racist incident-in his drug addiction-and his money laundering, here and more I can't recall because i'm limited on tripe absorbtion.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Well that's because you don't post in polictics and news much. Cad is an brain-dead idealogue whom defends anyone who is a republican no matter how guilty they look but his incomprehensible demagoguery is unmached when he *thinks* a Democrat made a fubar. He defended for Limbaugh in his racist incident-in his drug addiction-and his money laundering, here and more I can't recall because i'm limited on tripe absorbtion.

Buahaha - looks like you have a reading problem too. You keep failing to read my posts if you think I am defending what he did.
I'll leave your attempts at flaming me alone though - everyone is entitled to their opinions

CkG

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Buahaha - looks like you have a reading problem too. You keep failing to read my posts if you think I am defending what he did.
I'll leave your attempts at flaming me alone though - everyone is entitled to their opinions

CkG

He's not the only one who thinks you're defending Janklow. Perhaps you have a WRITING problem?

 

[Wolfdog]

So if I fart at the wheel, run a stop sign and kill someone, does that mean I can blame it on the mexican food?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Well BBD - that's a clasic example of Involountary Manslaughter, by the definition of the event.

Oh I certainly agree. I just wanted to clarify the facts before others skip to the "slap on the wrist" phase.

Given that I grew up in the stix, I must agree with CAD. There are plenty of three-way and four-way stop signs on roads with 55mph speed limits. Personally, I think some of the sympathy for Janklow is misplaced. He made a mistake and I imagine he feels remorse over the situation. But last time I checked remorse != exoneration. Janklow is refusing to accept responsibility for his actions . . . well technically he's kinda doing a half arse job like Rush . . . "I'm responsible it was my fault . . . but the drugs made me do it." My understanding is that Janklow is blaming his medication not his diabetes (assuming Janklow is the typical Type II diabetic).

 

[Aegion]

Those who think this situation was a one time occurance, might want to consider that Janklow nearly had an accident after running the same stop sign at the same intersection the year before. This is a consistant pattern of behavoir on his part.

TRENT, S.D. - U.S. Rep. Bill Janklow had a close call with another vehicle late last year at the same Moody County intersection where he was involved in a fatal accident two weeks ago...

Walters and her family were headed to a relative's house for a holiday dinner when they heard the screech of tires behind them at the rural intersection. When she turned, she said she saw a white Cadillac trying to stop after running a stop sign.

"A split-second difference and the Cadillac would have hit us," said Walters, 30, of Trent. "That's how fast the car came through."

Walters, who was riding in a pickup truck with her husband and two sons, said she called Moody County authorities to report the driver and describe the make and color of the car. Within the hour, she said, a dispatcher called her back to say an officer had stopped the car and identified its driver as Janklow, who was then South Dakota's governor and had been elected to the U.S. House.

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/6664281.htm

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Buahaha - looks like you have a reading problem too. You keep failing to read my posts if you think I am defending what he did.
I'll leave your attempts at flaming me alone though - everyone is entitled to their opinions

CkG

He's not the only one who thinks you're defending Janklow. Perhaps you have a WRITING problem?

What part of "What Janklow did was break the law and should be punished for doing so." don't you understand!?

Yeah...perhaps I do have a writing problem

next....

CkG

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Zebo
71 MPH in a resedentail area? Totally blowing the stop sign? Good luck dude. In my eyes obviously the man thinks hes above the law. Let's see what the jury says.

It's not a residential area.

Nor was it a 4-way Stop.

It is two rural highways intersecting.

He blew through the stop sign.

The cyclist, having no stop sign, actually collided with the side of Janklow's car.


No excuse, but let's keep the facts straight. o.k.?

 

[SuperTool]

So cyclist had the right of way, and Janklow ran a stop sign. End of story. Being diabetic, sleepy, drunk, etc is not a valid excuse, but I would say even worse. I think they should bring additional charges because he knowingly drove while impaired.
I think his lawyer is crazy for even bringing that up.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
What part of "What Janklow did was break the law and should be punished for doing so." don't you understand!?

Perhaps next time you should leave it at that. Instead, you go on to wring your hands about how anyone could be accused of the same thing and how easy it is to judge. And GEE what punishment should he get? Oh I don't know... Good people make mistakes too... Blah, blah, blah. Spare me.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
CAD, did your good friend try to weasel out of it?

You mean as in hiring a lawyer and all that? Hell yes he had a lawyer - because without one the DA was throwing the book at him. Due to his Lawyers history and track record(although he was a family freind to the accused) the DA finally relented and offered a Plea bargain. But yes - I have no doubt the system would have been "worked" if the DA would have forced a trial

CkG

Actually I was simply wondering if he accepted blame, or if he was of the "It wasn't my fault" ilk. You know, personal responsibility and all. But of course, this has absolutely nothing to do with the esteemed Mr Janklow...plus it is rather personal for you.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
What part of "What Janklow did was break the law and should be punished for doing so." don't you understand!?

Perhaps next time you should leave it at that. Instead, you go on to wring your hands about how anyone could be accused of the same thing and how easy it is to judge. And GEE what punishment should he get? Oh I don't know... Good people make mistakes too... Blah, blah, blah. Spare me.

Perhaps next time I will, but that doesn't mean my posting more than that is "excusing" either.
But anyway, maybe people should read before they make accusations and assumptions then too, huh?


CkG

 

[mastertech01]

People like him make me sick. Getting out of tickets time and time again no doubt. You only know of the ones that were actually issued, and not all the times whe was let off with verbal warning or nothing at all.

I know if I were sick and could blank out at a moments notice I would hit the gas pedal even harder... :disgust:


Its time to pay the piper for real this time. IMHO

Im tired of paying huge insurance premiums for jackasses like this getting off light.

 

[rjain]

Looks like he was declared guilty of manslaughter.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: rjain
Looks like he was declared guilty of manslaughter.

Good. :|

 

[Mill]

It's all due to the miserable chimp we have in the whitehouse.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Millennium
It's all due to the miserable chimp we have in the whitehouse.

I don't think he was charged with DUI

 

[Wag]

He should have dismembered the guy, then he might have got off. (ewww)

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: rjain
Looks like he was declared guilty of manslaughter.

Good. :|

He was Negligent, Reckless and arrogant, good riddance.

 

[DealMonkey]

Janklow deserves to spend a dime in the State Pen. Good riddance scumbag! :|

EDIT: CNN.com - Janklow guilty of manslaughter

 

[Wolfdog]

The worst part is that he won't get the same treatment like all of americas other criminals do. He will get special treatment at the club resort version of the state prison. He should get the same respect as any other convicted criminal. They need a bubba in every cell for this kind of guy. All he got was 10 years for taking another mans life. It doesn't seem like he got his just rewards. Maybe sell off all his assets and give it to the deceased family and really show how sorry he really is.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: rjain
Looks like he was declared guilty of manslaughter.

And justice was served

Wolfdog - I don't doubt for a minute that a civil suit(by the family) is on it's way. It's how things work in situations like this.

CkG