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jake plummer BLOWS :(

There were at least 3 VERY tough calls in that one. i felt that McNair did NOT fumble that one.

the TD one he was in the air and was pushed a LOT, could he have come in inbounds? IF the ref isn't sure, i think the offensive player should get the benefit of doubt.

i can't remember the others.

but what got me about the McNair fumble was the REVIEWED it and STILL GOT IT WRONG.
 
joes thEisman thought the officiating sucked.

the titans weren't helped by that shove TD call. not at all.
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
There were at least 3 VERY tough calls in that one. i felt that McNair did NOT fumble that one.

the TD one he was in the air and was pushed a LOT, could he have come in inbounds? IF the ref isn't sure, i think the offensive player should get the benefit of doubt.

i can't remember the others.

but what got me about the McNair fumble was the REVIEWED it and STILL GOT IT WRONG.
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i don't care how much of a titans fan you are, there is no way both feet would have stayed in bounds.
 
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
There were at least 3 VERY tough calls in that one. i felt that McNair did NOT fumble that one.

the TD one he was in the air and was pushed a LOT, could he have come in inbounds? IF the ref isn't sure, i think the offensive player should get the benefit of doubt.

i can't remember the others.

but what got me about the McNair fumble was the REVIEWED it and STILL GOT IT WRONG.
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i don't care how much of a titans fan you are, there is no way both feet would have stayed in bounds.
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hmmmm, since i'm not a Titans fan AT ALL, i'm not sure how that applies to me.

I'm a falcons fan.

BUT, when i watched it, i thought he went STRAIGHT up and then he was PUSHED out. ALSO, the Offensive player should get SOME benefit of the doubt BECAUSE the Defensive player is AGGRESSIVELY pushing him OUT of BOUNDS. it's not like incidental contact here. its a man that is pushing with the intent of making sure he doesn't land IN BOUNDS, why go thru all that IF he had NO CHANCE?

finally, the angles that they showed on REPLAY were all bad, in my opinion because you couldn't ever see clearly WHEN the D hit the WR.
 
no way could he have been in bounds.. just not possible and as for that fumble, (and yes, it was a fumble) he wasn't trying to pass the ball... unless he was trying to pass it right into the arm of the defender.. i think that tuck rule is a bunch of horse s#it, but even then, i don't think it applies.. i mean if it does apply in this case, then it could apply to almost any case.. "oh.. yah, my arm was back there in a throwing motion but i was definately going to tuck it back in"
 
Originally posted by: habib89
no way could he have been in bounds.. just not possible and as for that fumble, (and yes, it was a fumble) he wasn't trying to pass the ball... unless he was trying to pass it right into the arm of the defender.. i think that tuck rule is a bunch of horse s#it, but even then, i don't think it applies.. i mean if it does apply in this case, then it could apply to almost any case.. "oh.. yah, my arm was back there in a throwing motion but i was definately going to tuck it back in"
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habib, IF the QB has his arm FULLY EXTENDED and moving FORWARD and the ball is knocked out of his hand FROM BEHIND that will ALWAYS be called a Incomplete pass and NOT a fumble.

HE was FULLY in the motion of throwing the ball and he HIT the guy in front of him.

that was an incomplete pass.
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: habib89
no way could he have been in bounds.. just not possible and as for that fumble, (and yes, it was a fumble) he wasn't trying to pass the ball... unless he was trying to pass it right into the arm of the defender.. i think that tuck rule is a bunch of horse s#it, but even then, i don't think it applies.. i mean if it does apply in this case, then it could apply to almost any case.. "oh.. yah, my arm was back there in a throwing motion but i was definately going to tuck it back in"
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habib, IF the QB has his arm FULLY EXTENDED and moving FORWARD and the ball is knocked out of his hand FROM BEHIND that will ALWAYS be called a Incomplete pass and NOT a fumble.

HE was FULLY in the motion of throwing the ball and he HIT the guy in front of him.

that was an incomplete pass.
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Incomplete pass? Who was he throwing the ball too? The midget at his knees? It looked like he was about to throw, decided against it and as he was bringing the ball back towards his body it hit a lineman on the shoulder and popped out.


Lethal
 
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: habib89
no way could he have been in bounds.. just not possible and as for that fumble, (and yes, it was a fumble) he wasn't trying to pass the ball... unless he was trying to pass it right into the arm of the defender.. i think that tuck rule is a bunch of horse s#it, but even then, i don't think it applies.. i mean if it does apply in this case, then it could apply to almost any case.. "oh.. yah, my arm was back there in a throwing motion but i was definately going to tuck it back in"
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habib, IF the QB has his arm FULLY EXTENDED and moving FORWARD and the ball is knocked out of his hand FROM BEHIND that will ALWAYS be called a Incomplete pass and NOT a fumble.

HE was FULLY in the motion of throwing the ball and he HIT the guy in front of him.

that was an incomplete pass.
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Incomplete pass? Who was he throwing the ball too? The midget at his knees? It looked like he was about to throw, decided against it and as he was bringing the ball back towards his body it hit a lineman on the shoulder and popped out.


Lethal
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ARM IN MOTION. there doesn't have to be a man DIRECTLY in front for his arm to be in motion.

 
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: habib89 no way could he have been in bounds.. just not possible and as for that fumble, (and yes, it was a fumble) he wasn't trying to pass the ball... unless he was trying to pass it right into the arm of the defender.. i think that tuck rule is a bunch of horse s#it, but even then, i don't think it applies.. i mean if it does apply in this case, then it could apply to almost any case.. "oh.. yah, my arm was back there in a throwing motion but i was definately going to tuck it back in"
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habib, IF the QB has his arm FULLY EXTENDED and moving FORWARD and the ball is knocked out of his hand FROM BEHIND that will ALWAYS be called a Incomplete pass and NOT a fumble. HE was FULLY in the motion of throwing the ball and he HIT the guy in front of him. that was an incomplete pass.
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Incomplete pass? Who was he throwing the ball too? The midget at his knees? It looked like he was about to throw, decided against it and as he was bringing the ball back towards his body it hit a lineman on the shoulder and popped out. Lethal
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if you don't mind me asking, what was the midget at his knees doing? I missed the game

 
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: habib89
no way could he have been in bounds.. just not possible and as for that fumble, (and yes, it was a fumble) he wasn't trying to pass the ball... unless he was trying to pass it right into the arm of the defender.. i think that tuck rule is a bunch of horse s#it, but even then, i don't think it applies.. i mean if it does apply in this case, then it could apply to almost any case.. "oh.. yah, my arm was back there in a throwing motion but i was definately going to tuck it back in"
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habib, IF the QB has his arm FULLY EXTENDED and moving FORWARD and the ball is knocked out of his hand FROM BEHIND that will ALWAYS be called a Incomplete pass and NOT a fumble.

HE was FULLY in the motion of throwing the ball and he HIT the guy in front of him.

that was an incomplete pass.
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Incomplete pass? Who was he throwing the ball too? The midget at his knees? It looked like he was about to throw, decided against it and as he was bringing the ball back towards his body it hit a lineman on the shoulder and popped out.


Lethal
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Ding ding ding. Exactly.

Also, as far as that "td" there was no way he would have stayed in. Someone said it looked like he was going straight up and got pushed out. Did you watch the replay at all? His momentum was clearly carrying him out of bounds. I hate the raiders with a passion (bronco's fan) but I'll even admit they got jobbed badly in that game. That was one flag happy officiating crew.
 
That's the new tuck & roll rule in effect 🙂
As far as the receiver, I highly doubt he could come in bounds after the reception.
The defender should have just stand there and it would've been out of bounds.
 
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: habib89
no way could he have been in bounds.. just not possible and as for that fumble, (and yes, it was a fumble) he wasn't trying to pass the ball... unless he was trying to pass it right into the arm of the defender.. i think that tuck rule is a bunch of horse s#it, but even then, i don't think it applies.. i mean if it does apply in this case, then it could apply to almost any case.. "oh.. yah, my arm was back there in a throwing motion but i was definately going to tuck it back in"
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habib, IF the QB has his arm FULLY EXTENDED and moving FORWARD and the ball is knocked out of his hand FROM BEHIND that will ALWAYS be called a Incomplete pass and NOT a fumble.

HE was FULLY in the motion of throwing the ball and he HIT the guy in front of him.

that was an incomplete pass.
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Incomplete pass? Who was he throwing the ball too? The midget at his knees? It looked like he was about to throw, decided against it and as he was bringing the ball back towards his body it hit a lineman on the shoulder and popped out.


Lethal
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ARM IN MOTION. there doesn't have to be a man DIRECTLY in front for his arm to be in motion.
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If the QB's arm is in the forward motion of throwig the football it's an incomplete pass. His arm was not in the forwared motion of throwing the football. His arm was WAY past the point of release and he was still holding onto the football. Also, when it was knocked from his hand the nose of the ball was pointing straight DOWN. You don't throw a football w/its nose pointed straight down unless you are spiking the ball to kill the clock. As I said before, it looked like he was gonna throw it, decided not to, and when he started to bring the ball back into his body it got knocked out.


Lethal
 
At least Plummer didn't have 6 fumbles, (Kurt Warner) or score -6 fantasy points (Tom Brady). But, yes, thank goodness the Bronco's have Portis.
 
But the Broncos still won, baby, and that's all that matters.

Broncos 1-0
Faiders 0-1

Life is good!
 
Originally posted by: shenaniganz
At least Plummer didn't have 6 fumbles, (Kurt Warner) or score -6 fantasy points (Tom Brady). But, yes, thank goodness the Bronco's have Portis.
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and that Gresie is gone!!!

 
Originally posted by: shenaniganz
At least Plummer didn't have 6 fumbles, (Kurt Warner) or score -6 fantasy points (Tom Brady). But, yes, thank goodness the Bronco's have Portis.
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I had Brady playing this week, and still won!
 
Plummer will be fine. They won the game so give the guy a break and let him play another game or two to find his groove.

that raiders/titans game was brutal to watch. flags on every freakin play. The TD was close but i think he wouldv'e had a shot to stay inbounds
 
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