Jacqueline Saburido

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Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: mchammer
It is true that drunk driving deaths are much too high a percentage of total driving deaths. I say drinking establishments have one way only parking lots. People have obviously shown they are too irresponsible to handle these decisions on their own.

Most people don't understand the statistics, and even here when I stated one may be over the 'legal' limit and be ok to drive, they assumed this was the person themselves banking on that.

There is a lot of science behind it. However, like I said, most people that go through DUI cases just touched the BAL limit, when driving fine but caught in either a roadblock, or by coincidence.

MADD/SADD are a huge political lobby pushing far more issues than just DUI law through our courts. They are very profitable and have a great hook, who is going to tell a parent whose kid just got maimed that it was OK?

read about the law, how unconstitutional it is etc. It's like speeding though, no one says they speed usually although everyone has.

Same with drinking and drinking, most who drink probably have no driven 'drunk', but many probably would have failed at 0.08 BAL/BAC.

That's just the point I am making. Plus statistically there are thousands and thousands of drivers at that BAL driving each day and they are not statistically adding to more accidents, but with out a presentation on this most aren't going to see that.

The DUI line has to be drawn somewhere. While I agree that most accidents (esp. fatal ones) that involve a drunk driver are not caused by people just at or slightly above the limit, the limit is set to be a deterrent. Basically, if there's any question, you should NOT be driving. Unfortunately, the people who are liable to drink and drive probably will not care if the limit is low or high, which was the point of my earlier post. Maybe, as suggested by others here, you make the penalties harsher for repeat offenders. The idiot who did this to this girl, also killed two of her friends. He got 7 years. 7 years? For two lives ended and a third ruined? I have neither sympathy nor tolerance for that. Some will say he just made a mistake. No. He made two choices (to drink too much and to drive afterwards) that cost 3 families dearly. He deserved worse than he got.

Anyway, enough of my pontificating. I apologize.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: ArtVandalay

Originally posted by: tami
yup, i remember reading this extensively and staring at the picture, at which point i realized it's NOT cool to say that people are ugly, no matter how disfigured they may be. such a sad story. poor girl. i'm glad that there are so many people devoted to helping her.

You had to see this to come to that realization?

Anyway, R x 100, but still a sad story. Pretty inspiring that she has the courage to use her story to help fight drunk driving. 50,000 people a year in the US die in alcohol related crashes while we're too busy locking people up for marijuana to do more than slap DUIAs on the wrist .. /sigh

It's a lot more than a slap for many.

Did you know in some states they impound the vehicle. Now the problem lies in the fact that you don't even have to be driving to be charged with DUI. That's the messed up thing, but probably these are all things you are just spouting off on with no idea of the 'behind the scenes' crap.

There have been SEVERAL people arrested just washing/working on their cars because they were drinking and the keys were within the 25' radius or whatever cutoff point...some of these people had their vehicles permanently impounded, there is no resolving it as DUI laws do not follow due process/normal legal procedures.

You'd be surprized just how many people are actually arrested nightly for DUI's nationwide. It's a major multiple of those 50,000 alcohol 'related' accidents (related in this context means at least one person in the vehicle was drinking...there is a lot of fudging on these statistics. Truth is although unfortunate driver error and stupidity = most of the driving deaths, not alcohol and drugs. I am not saying it's ok to ever drink and drive...I am just saying most don't understand anything about it other than what they heard from a MADD/SADD presentation or flyer. Those people also don't even understand it.

Also the testing procedures are extremely flawed. You have a test that no medical / scientist would trust as accurate. They are measuring alcohol in the blood by measuring it through respiration. Any ulcers or oral bleeding will majorly skew these results, but that is not tested for.

Also numbers like .08 are arbitrary. Some people are majorly affected by that point, and others can be at more than that amount and still be in the 90%ile of ability. Obviously as you approach 20% and beyond that is extreme and no one is going to be operating at a normal capacity.

Another thing with DUI law is you automatically are arrested and you cannot bail out. You must be under observation for 8-12 hours (I think some states may be longer). I have known people that passed the fieldside and the breath test, but arrested anyway and later won, but now they are fingerprinted and photographed on public record.

 

[djheater]

Hopefully, operations can help her some...

 

[Toasthead]

 

[purbeast0]

dude, that picture really scared me and gave me a wierd feeling in my stomach when I clicked on the "Go Next" and that burnt picture showed up

sad indeed.