Jack Straw "shouldn't be allowed to comment" on muslim issues

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Cheww02

Originally posted by: brownzilla786

Originally posted by: dahunan
But.. but.. Bondage to my religion is beautiful.. I like being forced to have a relationship with the God and forced to pray 6 times a day when a bell rings like a cow coming in from pasture

Your image of muslims is completely warped by the media and extreme measures taken by a very small percentage of muslim "extremists".
Shouldnt people be bonded to religion? Isn't the purpose of religion to become closer to god spiritually? Praying is a way to do that.
P.S its praying 5 times a day, not 6. Your completely ignorant post shows you have absolutely no idea what your talking about, try to look at 99% of the religion instead of the 1% that does idiot acts that ends up on the news.

Man this is a Kick

5 times.. 6 times.. who cares.. what is a burqua.. people in burquas are freaky scary.. I feel sorry for them.. they are brainwashed - just like you

 

[magomago]

No one said anything about a Burqa dahunan. We can talk about all forms and varieties which is what he is aiming at. Come here and I'll show you women who vehemently would ARGUE their right to don a something as simple as a hijab or a veil. Mr. Straw may FEEL that this works for his, but if the other person speaks more comfortably, who is to say definitively what he says is true?

As one of the speakers said:

To suggest that if the woman removed the veil, we'll have community cohesion, it's a complete joke

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Btw, ftoli95, thanks for the input. Apparantly being in the UK lets him privy to some information that we cannot see.

Now, the only problem with moderate muslims is that you can't sell newspapers or attract viewers if you report what they say; even if they happen to represent the majority (which they do in this); BBC has been reporting what the moderates are saying but the rags (tabloids) are doing their best to dig up the extreme views as usual and unfortunately the tabloids do have a lot of influence.

 

[Jaskalas]

This is real simple. Maybe Jack Straw cannot comment on ?Muslim Issues?, but every issue with people in the UK is a British issue and the Brits have every damn right to comment on their own land. To hell with a religion trying to divide a country between extremist and infidel.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: amddude
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More muslim silencing of critics? It's called free speech, I guess maybe the UK had less than I thought. I think it's also worth noting the problems muslims from north africa have with integration problems in general, as we have seen in other EU countries such as France.

ELEANOR HALL: In the UK the former British Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw has shocked many of Britain's 1.8 million Muslims by re-opening a debate about the wearing of the Muslim headdress or hijab. He's called on Islamic women to remove their veils when meeting with their MP's, saying the traditional garb can make relations between different communities more difficult. But while the comments have sparked outrage from many Muslims, the Muslim Council of Britain has said it does understand why the veil may make Mr Straw feel uncomfortable. This report from Europe Correspondent Rafael Epstein.

RAFAEL EPSTEIN: In Australia Liberal backbenchers pushed for a ban on Muslim girls wearing headscarves in public schools. And it's an issue that resonates in Britain as well. The latest contribution comes from Jack Straw. The former Foreign Secretary says when Islamic women with a hijab that covers their face come to his electorate office, he asks if they could consider removing it.

JACK STRAW: This is an issue that needs to be discussed, because in our society we are able to relate particularly to strangers by being able to read their faces, and if you can't read people's faces, that does provide some separation. What I'm saying on the other side is, would those people who do wear the veil think about the implications for community relations.

RAFAEL EPSTEIN: Muslim women with their faces fully covered are not an unusual sight on the streets of Britain's bigger cities. Huleema Hussein from the Muslim Public Affairs Committee was scathing in her response.

HULEEMA HUSSEIN: Well, I think Jack Straw's suggestions are completely laughable, they should be dismissed completely out of hand. To suggest that if the woman removed the veil, we'll have community cohesion, it's a complete joke. He shouldn't be allowed to comment on these kind of issues, this is a Muslim issue. If women want to cover their face, it's an issue for themselves.

RAFAEL EPSTEIN: Debate about the veil, Islamic issues generally and terrorist violence are issues that are often blended together. And overnight there was another uproar over Muslims in public life. A Muslim police officer who'd volunteered for the diplomatic protection unit, was assigned for a two hour shift to stand outside the Israeli embassy in London, during the August conflict with Lebanon. Because he has relatives in Lebanon he requested to be excused from duty. The Sun newspaper, which broke the story has described it as a Cop Out. And its angered some police unions, like the Superintendents Association and its president Rick Naylor.

RICK NAYLOR: We're hearing words about justifying a moral dilemma, a moral dilemma for guarding an embassy? You provide a police service to the public, irrespective of race, creed, religion, sex, or sexual preference. If you can't do that, surely you leave.

RAFAEL EPSTEIN: Senior Jewish figures say it's a grave error, that officers have a moral obligation to protect everyone. Scotland Yard's Deputy Commissioner is Paul Stevenson.

PAUL STEVENSON: This is not about political correctness, what this instance was really about was an officer doing what we want officers to do, you know. That is, where they've got a concern of how they can carry out their duties, coming forward, raising it honestly and openly, on the base of a risk assessment, temporarily, he did other duties. That's about risk assessment.

RAFAEL EPSTEIN: There are more than a few different groups claiming to represent Britain's Muslims, and they have a variety of responses ranging from quiet work behind closed doors through to headline grabbing advocacy in one of Europe's most diverse communities.

Jack Straw is my great uncle, all the power to him

 

[imported_dna]

Arrest Jack Straw!!

Ok, Jack -- you got off easy this time, but don't butt into matters that do not affect you, or next time it will be "Behead Jack Straw"... You've been warned!



Now seriously; some of these people must be brain damaged, or have been sniffing gasoline: to hold signs like "Jack Straw Opressor of Muslim Women", or "The Veil is Women's Liberation" -- that's just ludicrous.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: dna
Arrest Jack Straw!!

Ok, Jack -- you got off easy this time, but don't butt into matters that do not affect you, or next time it will be "Behead Jack Straw"... You've been warned!



Now seriously; some of these people must be brain damaged, or have been sniffing gasoline: to hold signs like "Jack Straw Opressor of Muslim Women", or "The Veil is Women's Liberation" -- that's just ludicrous.

Brits aren't alone, this is a global war.

Ask France about the 112 cars burning every day. Or French police officers who are terrorized of being the front line in a civil war. Things in Europe are slowly degrading as the extremist population grows and starts demanding control.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: dna
Arrest Jack Straw!!

Ok, Jack -- you got off easy this time, but don't butt into matters that do not affect you, or next time it will be "Behead Jack Straw"... You've been warned!



Now seriously; some of these people must be brain damaged, or have been sniffing gasoline: to hold signs like "Jack Straw Opressor of Muslim Women", or "The Veil is Women's Liberation" -- that's just ludicrous.

Brits aren't alone, this is a global war.

Ask France about the 112 cars burning every day. Or French police officers who are terrorized of being the front line in a civil war. Things in Europe are slowly degrading as the extremist population grows and starts demanding control.

Any doubts about whether the parents know what these punks are doing?

 

[imported_dna]

More veil fun, this time you get to be called an infidel:
Protection for Italy veil row MP