Finally found a mirror with slackware 8.1 on it. Got it up and running. Previously, when I needed to install Java, I'd just go to a site that uses it and a window would pop up saying the plugin is needed...click here to download it...and it would automatically install an xpi package i think it was. This doesnt seem to happen any more...so anyways, I went to suns site and downloaded the j2re 1.4.0_01 binary, ran it, and copied the plugin to my mozilla plugins dir.../usr/lib/mozilla/plugins... Mozilla runs fine, until I come to a website that uses java. When I do, mozilla just completely disappears... If i remove the java plugin, mozilla goes back to normal. I'm assuming somethings wrong with my instlalation of java, but I've tried reinstalling it numerous times with no luck. I also posted on sun's forums but I hoped posting here would get a faster response... Thanks in advance.