J.D. Power and Associates 2005 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS)

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The J.D. Power and Associates 2005 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS).

The American vehicles acquited themselves quite well.......above most of the Japanese brands. Download the .pdf file on the linked page for the complete rankings of car manufacturers by reliability (done as problems experienced per 100 cars) and a better segment leader awards page than what I tried to put together below........


The J.D. Powers and Associates 2005 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS)



( Taken from the VDS Report: )

The automotive industry records an impressive 12 percent improvement in long-term vehicle quality, according to the J.D. Power and Associates 2005 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS).

The study, which measures problems experienced by original owners of 3-year-old (2002 model-year) vehicles, provides useful information to both consumers and the automotive industry on long-term vehicle quality. For consumers, the VDS offers insight into the reliability and dependability of brands and specific models as they approach the end of a typical warranty period. Manufacturers use this information to track the quality performance of their models over time to implement product improvement plans.

Lexus, which ranks highest in vehicle dependability for the 11th consecutive year, improves 14 percent (23 PP100) compared to 2004.

General Motors models earn eight segment awards and Ford Motor Company models receive five segments awards -a record for both GM and Ford in VDS. Toyota Motor Corporation models receive four awards.

Chevrolet captures the most segment awards, with the Prizm (compact car), Malibu (entry midsize car), S-10 Pickup (midsize pickup) and Silverado HD (heavy-duty full-size pickup) each earning an award in their respective segments. Ford receives three segment awards, for the Thunderbird (entry luxury car), Windstar (midsize van) and E-Series (full-size van).





J.D. Power and Associates
2005 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS)



Car and Truck Segments

Compact Car
Highest Ranked: Chevrolet Prizm

Toyota ECHO
Toyota Prius

Entry Midsize Car
Highest Ranked: Chevrolet Malibu

Oldsmobile Alero
Hyundai Sonata

Premium Midsize Car
Highest Ranked: Buick Century

Buick Regal
Toyota Avalon

Full-Size Car
Highest Ranked: Buick LeSabre

Ford Crown Victoria
Mercury Grand Marquis

Entry Luxury Car
Highest Ranked: Ford Thunderbird

Lincoln LS
Infiniti I35

Mid Luxury Car
Highest Ranked: Lincoln Town Car

Lexus GS 300/GS 430
Buick Park Avenue

Premium Luxury Car
Highest Ranked: Lexus LS 430

Lexus SC 430
Cadillac Eldorado

Sporty Car
Highest Ranked: Mazda Miata

Chevrolet Camaro
Toyota MR2 Spyder

Premium Sports Car
Highest Ranked: Porsche 911

Honda S2000
Chevrolet Corvette

Midsize Van
Highest Ranked: Ford Windstar

Toyota Sienna
Mercury Villager

Full-Size Van
Highest Ranked: Ford E-Series

Chevrolet Express
Dodge Ram Van

Midsize Pickup
Highest Ranked: Chevrolet S-10 Pickup

GMC Sonoma
Toyota Tacoma

Light-Duty Full-Size Pickup
Highest Ranked: Cadillac Escalade EXT

Ford F-150 LD
Toyota Tundra

Heavy-Duty Full-Size Pickup
Highest Ranked: Chevrolet Silverado HD

Ford F-250/F-350 Super Duty
GMC Sierra HD

Entry SUV
Highest Ranked: Honda CR-V

Toyota RAV4
Jeep Liberty

Midsize SUV
Highest Ranked: Toyota 4Runner

Toyota Highlander
Ford Explorer (Total)

Full-Size SUV
Highest Ranked: GMC Yukon/Yukon XL

Ford Expedition (tie)
Toyota Sequoia (tie)

Entry Luxury SUV
Highest Ranked: Lexus RX 300

Acura MDX
Infiniti QX4

Premium Luxury SUV
Highest Ranked: Lexus LX 470

Cadillac Escalade (tie)
Lincoln Navigator (tie)

Source: J.D. Power and Associates 2005 Vehicle Dependability Study
 

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Now only if there was a correlation between what JDP&A says and what consumers know by driving the cars they own for long periods of time.... :roll:
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Odd results:

Light-Duty Full-Size Pickup
Highest Ranked: Cadillac Escalade EXT :confused:

K, and?

That's the version that is like the Cadillac version of an avalanche, with the truck bed but still with the back seats...

Light duty is to imply that it's really not what you would consider a pickup.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Now only if there was a correlation between what JDP&A says and what consumers know by driving the cars they own for long periods of time.... :roll:

It is, it's just that you, like most japanese fanboys, are blinded by that fact.

 

PingSpike

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Man, my parents malibu was the biggest POS they ever owned. Are they talking about the new one?
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Man, my parents malibu was the biggest POS they ever owned. Are they talking about the new one?

What was so bad about it? Poor interior ergonomics do not make for an unreliable car. A buzzy engine dooes not make for an unreliable car. Poor visability does not make for an unreliable car.
 

PokerGuy

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Does JDP include the relative cost of different issues, or do they use the number of problems per 100 vehicles? For example, something that takes $10 to fix and does not take a long time is not a big deal, but the tranny going bad is. If each counts as "1 problem", then the measure is severely flawed.
 
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I'm not entirely convinced by the results, but I must say I am not surprised it took only two posts for somebody to completely discount the JD Power article as false.:roll:
 

Strk

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Entry-level luxury and premium sports car are kind of screwed up. A Thunderbird is luxury? And can you really compared a $30k S2000 with a $90,000 911? Anyways, I've never said GM (I focus on them over Ford :roll: ) doesn't have the dependability, but they use such cheap materials.
 

HBalzer

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Is the award for most improved? If so it ain't hard to go from a ****** box to a crap box
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Man, my parents malibu was the biggest POS they ever owned. Are they talking about the new one?

What was so bad about it? Poor interior ergonomics do not make for an unreliable car. A buzzy engine dooes not make for an unreliable car. Poor visability does not make for an unreliable car.

Well, the fact that the engine was actually starting to fall out of it sort of made it an unreliable car. Transmission abruptly dying made it pretty bad. Bad wiper design (and worse recall redesign). I don't think they even put 60k miles on it before they got rid of it...my parents own their own business and don't really drive their main car much, usually the body rusts out before any engine problems turn up. Don't get me wrong, I loved my old cavalier wagon. But that malibu was a pile of sh|t plain and simple.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
I'm not entirely convinced by the results, but I must say I am not surprised it took only two posts for somebody to completely discount the JD Power article as false.:roll:

Can you read?
 

AMDZen

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JD P&A are completely full of sh!t.

I love their "VDS" as if you can tell how dependable a vehicle is going to be after 1 year. And their initial quality is even worse, who the fvck really cares about initial quality? Every new car I've ever driven (and I drove A LOT of them when I worked valet) has good quality out of the factory. Its only after years of abuse that the dependability or lack there of, starts to seep through.
 

zoiks

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On the other hand I'm not convinced by the consumer review results. Lots of cars have no crash results available so the safety aspect is completely ignored. Other newcomers such as the Ridgeline were given best truck awards when its clearly underpowered, has no crash results and absolutely no previous model history.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Atomicus
Now only if there was a correlation between what JDP&A says and what consumers know by driving the cars they own for long periods of time.... :roll:

It is, it's just that you, like most japanese fanboys, are blinded by that fact.

Just like you american fanboys are also completely blind. You buy cars because their "american" when in reality, the car market is so convoluted - most parts on most american cars aren't american
 

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Odd results:

Light-Duty Full-Size Pickup
Highest Ranked: Cadillac Escalade EXT :confused:


I agree wasn't expecting to see this
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Man, my parents malibu was the biggest POS they ever owned. Are they talking about the new one?

What was so bad about it? Poor interior ergonomics do not make for an unreliable car. A buzzy engine dooes not make for an unreliable car. Poor visability does not make for an unreliable car.

Well, the fact that the engine was actually starting to fall out of it sort of made it an unreliable car. Transmission abruptly dying made it pretty bad. Bad wiper design (and worse recall redesign). I don't think they even put 60k miles on it before they got rid of it...my parents own their own business and don't really drive their main car much, usually the body rusts out before any engine problems turn up. Don't get me wrong, I loved my old cavalier wagon. But that malibu was a pile of sh|t plain and simple.

My mom has a new Impala, and something in the steering has already gone out on it as well. The bearings are all jacked up so the steering wheel shakes while driving on the highway. This is after 2 years. I won't even go into all of the electrical problems she has had, among other BS.

And then there is my brothers 2 year old F-250 turbo diesel. That thing is the absolute epitome of unreliability.
 

zoiks

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Man, my parents malibu was the biggest POS they ever owned. Are they talking about the new one?

What was so bad about it? Poor interior ergonomics do not make for an unreliable car. A buzzy engine dooes not make for an unreliable car. Poor visability does not make for an unreliable car.

Well, the fact that the engine was actually starting to fall out of it sort of made it an unreliable car. Transmission abruptly dying made it pretty bad. Bad wiper design (and worse recall redesign). I don't think they even put 60k miles on it before they got rid of it...my parents own their own business and don't really drive their main car much, usually the body rusts out before any engine problems turn up. Don't get me wrong, I loved my old cavalier wagon. But that malibu was a pile of sh|t plain and simple.

My mom has a new Impala, and something in the steering has already gone out on it as well. The bearings are all jacked up so the steering wheel shakes while driving on the highway. This is after 2 years. I won't even go into all of the electrical problems she has had, among other BS.

And then there is my brothers 2 year old F-250 turbo diesel. That thing is the absolute epitome of unreliability.

My friend has a 2 year old Sentra that stopped in the middle of the road and wouldn't start back up. He ended up spending 2k on it and the friggin thing still occasionally stalls.
I also have an old 240sx that has 230k miles on it. But then I've replaced half of the stuff under the hood so I wouldn't consider that reliable.