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Ivy-E confirmed Q3 2013

Q3 2013 oh my god, utterly unexciting. For the mainstream there's Haswell, and for the workstation there's nothing that SB-E can do today.
 
If Ivy-E has good thermals, then I might consider it if they OC really well but I am not expecting it to be worth much cost over a sandy-E. Especially if a much cheaper Haswell destroys it in games.
 
I'm actually kind of surprised that it is going to be that late.

IMO we're seeing the direct result of AMD's lack of competitiveness in the higher-end market. If there was a great AMD chip upcoming, we wouldn't be waiting another year for Ivy-E.
 
CharlesKozierok said:
I'm actually kind of surprised that it is going to be that late.

IMO we're seeing the direct result of AMD's lack of competitiveness in the higher-end market. If there was a great AMD chip upcoming, we wouldn't be waiting another year for Ivy-E.
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If intel wanted to wait until there was sufficient competition, then they would be able to wait much longer than Q3 2013 before anything would be able to compete with a 6 core sandy. I'm not hating on AMD, but its just true.
 
I wonder if by Q3 2013 my i7 920 will show it's age. I sincerely doubt it... CS:GO runs great, SC2, and all of my work software.
 
aaksheytalwar said:
Benches of ivy e? Expected gains?
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For all practical purposes, 0%.

Ivy Bridge-E is just another implementation of Ivy Bridge. It will be "improved" in that it has more PCI-E lanes and support for quad-channel RAM.

Also, hooray for Intel continuing to break naming conventions. Haswell is fourth generation? Well, so is IB-E!
 
pantsaregood said:
For all practical purposes, 0%.

Ivy Bridge-E is just another implementation of Ivy Bridge. It will be "improved" in that it has more PCI-E lanes and support for quad-channel RAM.

Also, hooray for Intel continuing to break naming conventions. Haswell is fourth generation? Well, so is IB-E!
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Wrong...if they release a 8-core IB-E part, expect some VERY nice gains in MT apps. Look at the difference between SB-E and even IB now, add some extra cores and some applications will eat it up. Remains to be seen how it will stack up against Haswell, but 4 HW cores against 4 IB-E cores should be interesting. 🙂
 
Hope they have solder under the lid instead of whatever they're using in there currently. Maybe it's peanut butter. Maybe it's leprechaun blood. Whatever it is, it sucks ass.
 
pantsaregood said:
For all practical purposes, 0%.

Ivy Bridge-E is just another implementation of Ivy Bridge. It will be "improved" in that it has more PCI-E lanes and support for quad-channel RAM.

Also, hooray for Intel continuing to break naming conventions. Haswell is fourth generation? Well, so is IB-E!
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IB-E is 3 gen accodring to Intel:

INTC_DesktopRdmpIVBE.jpg
 
Lonbjerg said:
IB-E is 3 gen accodring to Intel:

INTC_DesktopRdmpIVBE.jpg
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he's referring to the naming

my SB-E 3939K is a "3xxx" i7 despite being very much different from an i7 3770K Ivy Bridge...

and now it appears that IB-E CPUs will be labeled as 4900 i7s despite being Ivy generation and not Haswell
 
Arkaign said:
Hope they have solder under the lid instead of whatever they're using in there currently. Maybe it's peanut butter. Maybe it's leprechaun blood. Whatever it is, it sucks ass.
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according to these tests: http://forums.overclockersclub.com/index.php?showtopic=164465, peanut butter would be a candidate solely based on temps, however the fact that my i5 3570K doesn't smell delicious under load tells me its not so, so its probably so unflavored/scented lip balm that they're using

granted, if intel wanted to save money, they should have been using toothpaste...
 
What I'm implying is that Intel's "generations" are named inconsistently.

Nehalem was first-generation.
Westmere, the die shrink of Nehalem, was still first generation.

Sandy Bridge is second-generation.
Sandy Bridge-E, an (essentially unchanged) implementation of Sandy Bridge on LGA 2011, is third-generation.
Ivy Bridge, a die-shrink of Sandy Bridge is third-generation.
Ivy Bridge-E, an (essentially unchanged) implementation of Ivy Bridge on LGA 2011, is fourth-generation.

what is this i dont even
 
CharlesKozierok said:
I'm actually kind of surprised that it is going to be that late.

IMO we're seeing the direct result of AMD's lack of competitiveness in the higher-end market. If there was a great AMD chip upcoming, we wouldn't be waiting another year for Ivy-E.
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It's just disappointing because the things that benefit server chips immensely does little for PC. And Ivy Bridge E is based on the Xeon Ivy Bridge EP. They changed focus, now its all about low power.

AMD is probably a trivial worry compared to potential threat of not being in the mobile space. Oh, and perf/watt also translates into performance. Also for the mainstream LGA1150 Haswell, there are rumors that there might be a 105W chip. Extra TDP = Extra few % higher clocks
 
LOL, looks its like Intel managers went bonkers and gave their XEON platform to the Itanium management team (notorious for epic delays).

At this rate we can expect the haswell xeons circa 2018. Right around the time the next Itanium is finally released. :|
 
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