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I've decided to get into woodworking. Questions.

Arcadio

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I wanna build some small shelves and cabinets to start. Later I really want to build a king-size bed.

-Which tools are essential for the beginner?
-What type of wood should I start with?
-Any good websites or apps for beginners?
-When exactly will I lose my motivation and end up with a bunch of useless wood and tools?
 

highland145

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Which tools? All of them. :D

My 1st was a router. You can do a lot with that and some jigs. Look at the Kreg pocket jig too. Yard sale/estate sales can be a gold mine for cheap underused tools.

Poplar is easy to work with.
 

bruceb

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Router, Small Table Saw, Dado Blade, various hand saws, sander, drill, power screwdriver, hammer, level, clamps
 

IronWing

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Tools escalate with the level of complexity. Cabinets are near the top of the complexity curve and require more tools than will fit in the finished product. Shelves are good for beginners and only require enough tools to fill the shelf.
 

herm0016

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i am a woodworker. Have gutted houses, installed full kitchens from wallboard to finish work, whole house of wood flooring, built and restored Furniture.

The forum i like best is SawMillcreek.

I have quite a collection of tools at this point. If i was starting from scratch I would buy a Track Saw first. Either the Dewalt, Makitia or Grizzly depending on budget. (Festool if i was ATOT rich)

Learn to use this to your advantage and you may never need a table saw. A track saw is much more competent and versatile than any of the "jobsite" or "portable" table saws available.

Then I would have a good router, even better if you get a plate for the track of your track saw, this will allow you to do nearly everything a cheap table saw will do with more precision and versatility.
A drill and driver combo or a full battery powered combo set. drill / driver / reciprocating saw are all the battery things you really need. I have a radio that came "free" as well.

last, a chop saw. Something decent to nice that will hold its settings. The cheap stuff will do the job, but will not hold its settings from cut to cut.

I have a lot of rigid tools and have not been disappointed with any of them, but there are better and worse. The bosch glide miter saw is excellent, next is the dewalt /rigid / makitia offerings. next down is the ryobi/kobalt etc.

I have bought most of my stand alone stuff like table saw, miter saw, router table and 1/2 in router on craigslist. if you want specific help for a tool give me a shout. I started woodworking with my father as a wee one and have been doing it in various capacities since.

Currently I am finishing the remodel of our home. The last 2 projects are: trimming out our stairway with antique wrought iron panels that have been sand blasted and powder coated, Hickory and blue stain pine wood railings and trim. Building 2 sliding closet doors from Hickory veneer plywood and solid hickory.

If you do have money, Festool stuff is great, but you only gain a few percent over other nice tools for an exponential increase in cost.

Cabinets are not as hard as people make them out to be, the key is planing every cut from start to finish on paper. I built a set in our previous house with only a table saw, drill and chop saw from white melamine for the boxes and maple ply with iron on edge banding for the doors. They came out great. Shelving is very similar in construction.

After you get tired of using plywood with its perfectly square and straight edges, you will want a planer and a Jointer. These things will help you cut a wavy board only good for boat building and turn it into something flat and straight that is useful. This is also why a tracksaw is better than a table saw for many operations, its cuts a straight line even if the wood is not. a regular tablesaw does not have this capability without some fanageling or a very expensive and large European sliding table type.
 
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clamum

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Dang, herm0016 sounds like a f'ing boss on this topic.

I was just gonna suggest checking out Wranglerstar's YouTube Channel. It's not a woodworking channel per se, but he does some projects and I figured maybe you'd find some of his videos helpful (but I'm not a woodworking guy so who knows) and he's a straight up dude anyway.
 
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Buy good blades and bits, and replace or sharpen them when they get dull. Nothing worse than a dull bit.

Plan your cuts. Be precise. Work slowly. Never bend or force something to fit. If you cut it wrong, don't try to "salvage" the part - ask The Lorax for forgiveness and go buy more wood. Don't make it fit, make it to fit.
 
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highland145

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Plan your cuts. Be precise. Work slowly. Never bend or force something to fit. If you cut it wrong, don't try to "salvage" the part - ask The Lorax for forgiveness and go buy more wood. Don't make it fit, make it to fit.
I just change the plan. "I meant for it to look like that." :D
 

ctbaars

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Practice, practice, practice; before you do it to the good stuff.
I have to tell you, while a router is an outstanding (and loud and messy) tool for so many things. It's incredibly difficult to use but so rewarding when it comes out right.
 

deadlyapp

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I've done quite a number of different projects now, including a full king sized bed out of solid oak, so I'll let you know what tools I think are the bare minimum:
- Drill (cordless is best, corded would work)
- Miter saw (with large board capacity - you can also get by with a table saw or circular saw)
- Various clamps
- Drill Bits
- Sandpaper & sanding block
- Various hand tools (screwdrivers, hex keys, etc)
- Level
- Square
- Dremel (mostly used for getting out of bad situations)

Nice to haves:
- Router
- Table saw
- Drill Press
- Belt sander / disc sander
- Electric sander

For my bed I pretty much only used a large sliding miter saw to cut all the boards, the drill to pre-drill holes, and then used socket countersunk screws with wood inserts to allow me to disassemble the entire bed for moving it.

The only thing I've really wanted is a table saw for making large cuts, but my circular saw has gotten me by to this point.
 

bruceb

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Check out videos from the old PBS Series: The New Yankee Workshop with Norm Abrams, Master Carpenter
When that show was on the air, he showed how to do many things with wood and various ways to do it.
 
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MaxDepth

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Earlier in my life I would have said, buy, in order: level, circular saw, drill, router, drill press. In my early life I would have said track saws are for pussies. But hopefully I've gained some wisdom in surviving this long to learn where I have been wrong. If nothing else, the cuts are much better with a track saw than the circular.

Small shelves and cabinets. You definitely need a speed square. Just cutting and nailing together just won't cut it. Especially for cabinets. You need straight lines and perfect squares. This one tool will get you there.

King size bed. You'll be dealing with a few things: Long planks. Even if you don't go with full head and foot boards, you still have length and width to tie together. You looking at four posters? (the ones with a column at each corner) You'll want to learn wood turning.

For bigger headboards or footboards you'll want to learn about joinery. Some places will plane and join the planks for you, but depending on how big, you'll need a biscuit joiner to strengthen the planks glued together.

Good luck and welcome to the club!
 

Humpy

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After having owned, and gotten rid of, pretty much every type woodworking tool imaginable I would say if you need shelves and cabinets and a bed just go buy them or have them made for you.

If you want to learn about woodworking get yourself a nice set of japanese hand tools and learn how they work on various woods and how to keep them sharp. Build yourself a little box or a birdhouse or some shit. Once you intimately understand what a chisel does you'll understand what a table saw or router or cnc machine does.

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BarkingGhostar

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I wanna build some small shelves and cabinets to start. Later I really want to build a king-size bed.

-Which tools are essential for the beginner?
-What type of wood should I start with?
-Any good websites or apps for beginners?
-When exactly will I lose my motivation and end up with a bunch of useless wood and tools?
I would recommend that you get some additional insurance to cover the loss of digits and limbs and other serious injuries. BTW, some of the tools can take your life while others just disfigure you for life. Think about it.
 

Arcadio

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Ok, I got a Makita table saw that has pretty good reviews, a work bench, goggles, and some wood. I already owned a dremel, googles, measuring tape (who doesn't own measuring tape?), and a level. First project: build a ledge for my cat to stare out the window.
 

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Mitre saw and circular saw are probably a good start, then you will find out you need more tools as you go along.

Oh and a straight edge and some clamps to hold it. That will allow you to make nice clean straight cuts.

Table saw is nice to have too, but my issue is lack of proper room, I bought one last year on sale but hardly used it as I don't have a proper work environment. Working on fixing that. Building a shed so I can stop using the garage as one.
 

IronWing

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Ok, I got a Makita table saw that has pretty good reviews, a work bench, goggles, and some wood. I already owned a dremel, googles, measuring tape (who doesn't own measuring tape?), and a level. First project: build a ledge for my cat to stare out the window.
With the table saw, use the pushers for the wood. Hand holding is really, really bad. Table saws run so smoothly and fluidly that one can forget the blade will take off fingers with no effort at all.
 

herm0016

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i never got why table saws have such a cool factor and everyone, even after advise from others, gets a cheap pos jobsite table saw for their first major tool. ohwell !!

yes i have a tablesaw, a hybrid that weighs about 300 lbs with a full cast iron table.

at least get one of these.. i really like mine. http://www.rockler.com/micro-jig-gr...mfU8gBqx7aDbij05YBYbAkeFvRnkULWxoCoXQQAvD_BwE

and get good blades. I like infinity cutting tools, but carbide processers, ridge tool works, and there are a few other good makers. The diablo and avanti stuff at depot is just ok. also, use the correct blade for the job. ripping and cross cutting are different, plywood and solid wood are different as well.