I've been traveling for over a month now... make it stop

[jlee]

Perfect idea.

:awe:

 

[TridenT]

Bad idea he is a drug addict now correct? Benzo's and alchohol.

Uhm, when has he not been a drug addict? :hmm:

 

[disappoint]

I lived there for 3.5 years. I disliked it within the first week. I wanted out within the first 3 months. I doubt you can honestly tell me that where you are living was that bad. Living there for another 3 years would have been suicide. I'd have completely lost years 20-26 rather than now where I can at least maaaaybe get things on track after I get a job. I already lost years 20-24 from having to live in Seattle. It was terrible.

If I had known Seattle was going to be that bad before I spent so much time there, I might have been able to figure something else out.

Are there any successful people living in Seattle?

Getting paid a living wage to work on one of my projects, maybe. That would be nice. However, that won't happen. (my work is open source and not profit driven so that I can provide access to tools to those who can't afford them) Outside of that, I don't think I wouldn't be excited to work on anything at a job. It would be a job. I'd be able to perform the task well but I don't think I'd be "OMFG THIS IS MEH LIEF KALLIN', GAWD I AWANN JURK EET SEW H4RD".

Outside of that, if there was some good dancing. That'd be nice too... But, again, not going to happen where I am currently living.

Do you know why you accidentally used a double negative in that bolded statement when you intended a single negative?

 

[z1ggy]

I lived there for 3.5 years. I disliked it within the first week. I wanted out within the first 3 months. I doubt you can honestly tell me that where you are living was that bad. Living there for another 3 years would have been suicide. I'd have completely lost years 20-26 rather than now where I can at least maaaaybe get things on track after I get a job. I already lost years 20-24 from having to live in Seattle. It was terrible.

If I had known Seattle was going to be that bad before I spent so much time there, I might have been able to figure something else out.

You're right, it's not that bad here. You know why? Because I make the best of it and I'm not a fecking noob like you who hates everything. Shit dude, if you were making money and were smart with it, you could have probably flown for cheap every single weekend to the destination of your choice for some weekend relaxing or partying. I have about $450/month or student loan payments that you did not have. Given all else equal, that $450 a month could have gotten me 1 weekend per month in Vegas, a couple weekends in Orlando or someshit like that. But nope, you chose to hate yourself, and hate life. Now look at you.

 

[bigrash]

Lots of people in this thread trying to give advise to OP, but don't bother. This guy has an excuse for everything.

 

[purbeast0]

Getting paid a living wage to work on one of my projects, maybe. That would be nice. However, that won't happen. (my work is open source and not profit driven so that I can provide access to tools to those who can't afford them) Outside of that, I don't think I would be overly excited to work on anything at a job. It would be a job. I'd be able to perform the task well but I don't think I'd be "OMFG THIS IS MEH LIEF KALLIN', GAWD I AWANN JURK EET SEW H4RD".

Outside of that, if there was some good dancing. That'd be nice too... But, again, not going to happen where I am currently living.

just FYI ... most large opensource software out there ... people are getting paid salaries to write it. they aren't just doing it in their spare time for fun.

 

[OverVolt]

Lots of people in this thread trying to give advise to OP, but don't bother. This guy has an excuse for everything.

Oddly enough I don't want to give him advice. My best advice is that he needs a role model.

He really needs to read some books, in my opinion. To get his life sorted out. In light of not really having parents to guide him he will need some kind of mentor. Until then... he's on his own. Which is extremely difficult in 2015 in your 20's.

 

[TridenT]

Are there any successful people living in Seattle?



Do you know why you accidentally used a double negative in that bolded statement when you intended a single negative?

Read how Seattle freeze works. Maybe you'll get it. Not everyone experiences it but a lot of outsiders do. People who grow up in Seattle generally don't experience it.

I edited. I had an initial phrase and then decided to use another. I do a lot of double negatives in first drafts because of sentences colliding in my head when typing.

You're right, it's not that bad here. You know why? Because I make the best of it and I'm not a fecking noob like you who hates everything. Shit dude, if you were making money and were smart with it, you could have probably flown for cheap every single weekend to the destination of your choice for some weekend relaxing or partying. I have about $450/month or student loan payments that you did not have. Given all else equal, that $450 a month could have gotten me 1 weekend per month in Vegas, a couple weekends in Orlando or someshit like that. But nope, you chose to hate yourself, and hate life. Now look at you.

Nah, you also don't live in that bad of a region. What you like to do is there enough that you're okay with it. What I liked to do wasn't in Seattle. (The subject was there but the structure around it wasn't)

You have $450/month in student loan debt that you took up. I chose to not take that path. I could have flown to a new city every single weekend this past summer while still living in Seattle. I chose not to do that because it doesn't give me the perspective I desired when visiting a region. (What it's like to actually live there, with a car! What's a regular weekday like there? Not a weekend... Also, a lot of the activities I do aren't on weekend nights. They're on weekdays.) It was also cheaper than flying.

 

[Drako]

Why don't you just become a begger?

I'm sure you could pull in a couple hundred a day standing some busy street corner looking pathetic.

 

[jlee]

Oddly enough I don't want to give him advice. My best advice is that he needs a role model.

He really needs to read some books, in my opinion. To get his life sorted out. In light of not really having parents to guide him he will need some kind of mentor. Until then... he's on his own. Which is extremely difficult in 2015 in your 20's.

He's received a lot of excellent advice in this thread.

I'm 30, btw. Didn't grow up in the 70's.

 

[TridenT]

He's received a lot of excellent advice in this thread.

I'm 30, btw. Didn't grow up in the 70's.

Clearly everyone thinks you're ancient though. Old man living in ye old glory days.

 

[jlee]

Clearly everyone thinks you're ancient though. Old man living in ye old glory days.

Nah, pretty sure that was just overvolt, when he was saying how much better his generation was than mine.

Kinda curious how old he is, now.

 

[TridenT]

just FYI ... most large opensource software out there ... people are getting paid salaries to write it. they aren't just doing it in their spare time for fun.

Large, not small. Guess who has a small project that applies to a very small audience? Me. There are people who do that work, I know some. I worked on open source software for my last job! Everything we did was open source. It doesn't mean that the software I was doing results me being like ermahfuckinggawd, cummin' in my briches over how lovely this job is. Which is what a lot of people act like in this industry (whether or not that's how they actually feel).

I treat jobs like they are jobs. I like having a work-life balance. That gets thrown out the window when you act like you wanna just work all day on this software because it's your life calling.

 

[z1ggy]

Nah, you also don't live in that bad of a region. What you like to do is there enough that you're okay with it. What I liked to do wasn't in Seattle. (The subject was there but the structure around it wasn't)

You have $450/month in student loan debt that you took up. I chose to not take that path. I could have flown to a new city every single weekend this past summer while still living in Seattle. I chose not to do that because it doesn't give me the perspective I desired when visiting a region. (What it's like to actually live there, with a car! What's a regular weekday like there? Not a weekend... Also, a lot of the activities I do aren't on weekend nights. They're on weekdays.) It was also cheaper than flying.

Dude, Seattle is a big city. How you couldn't find something that you enjoy there, is your own problem. The city I live in, has 16,000 as it's population. That's like one step above tooth-less hickville status. Yet, I still have friends through work, and I still am on club hockey teams. The rink is 30 minutes away, but.. Again, I make an effort.

And uhhhh yes I chose the student debt, however, the "path" of debt was not one you chose. Paraphrasing you, you stated that "...would have not gone to college if it had not been free, via government assistance."

PS- 80% of my hockey games are on week nights. I work 48 hours a week, have a car, a dog, 3 cats, my own house, a g/f and I still PC game every now and then. So yeahhhh that's a lame ass excuse. It's not like weekend hockey or the city the rink is in suddenly transforms into some other city or.. I don't even know.

 

[OverVolt]

Enough of that.... 😉

 

[jlee]

Haha I'm always fishing for info. I figured as much with the Gen X tirade as I consider Gen X to be around early 30's. It was either/or based on the first post. My cutoff for Gen X is actually around the early 1980's. Those who hit the job market before/after 2008 is the dividing factor. Which makes the magical dividing line 1986 and earlier.

Gen X thinks they shit rainbows, work twice as hard as anyone else (while being twice as lazy) etc. etc. :awe:

Millenials 'gon take yer jerbs we work cheaper!

😎

I career-changed into IT in 2012 with absolutely zero professional experience and no relevant degree. That puts me about four years later than your job market cutoff. 😉

 

[jlee]

Large, not small. Guess who has a small project that applies to a very small audience? Me. There are people who do that work, I know some. I worked on open source software for my last job! Everything we did was open source. It doesn't mean that the software I was doing results me being like ermahfuckinggawd, cummin' in my briches over how lovely this job is. Which is what a lot of people act like in this industry (whether or not that's how they actually feel).

I treat jobs like they are jobs. I like having a work-life balance. That gets thrown out the window when you act like you wanna just work all day on this software because it's your life calling.

lol, you treat jobs like they are optional. :awe:

 

[purbeast0]

Large, not small. Guess who has a small project that applies to a very small audience? Me. There are people who do that work, I know some. I worked on open source software for my last job! Everything we did was open source. It doesn't mean that the software I was doing results me being like ermahfuckinggawd, cummin' in my briches over how lovely this job is. Which is what a lot of people act like in this industry (whether or not that's how they actually feel).

I treat jobs like they are jobs. I like having a work-life balance. That gets thrown out the window when you act like you wanna just work all day on this software because it's your life calling.

you are delusional if you don't think that supporting an open source project will not be beneficial on your resume as well.

and you should treat jobs like they are jobs. i like having a work-life balance as well. i've been a software dev for over 10 years now, making a good 6 figure salary, and i don't even work 40 hours a week.

but i do some dev in my spare time as well to learn and have made some money off the mobile market with it, but i enjoy doing that as well.

oh and i also have 27 paid days off a year and rarely carry a balance of days off because like you, i like to enjoy my life and my wife and i make traveling a huge priority, so we go on 2-3 exotic vacations a year usually.

although that is slowing down in 2015 because our first kid is due in less than 3 months.

 

[TridenT]

Dude, Seattle is a big city. How you couldn't find something that you enjoy there, is your own problem. The city I live in, has 16,000 as it's population. That's like one step above tooth-less hickville status. Yet, I still have friends through work, and I still am on club hockey teams. The rink is 30 minutes away, but.. Again, I make an effort.

And uhhhh yes I chose the student debt, however, the "path" of debt was not one you chose. Paraphrasing you, you stated that "you would have not gone to college if it had not been free, via government assistance."

PS- 80% of my hockey games are on week nights. I work 48 hours a week, have a car, a dog, 3 cats, my own house, a g/f and I still PC game every now and then. So yeahhhh that's a lame ass excuse. I'm not surprised...

Just because a city has a population doesn't mean it has everything you want. Chicago is the third largest city in the country with millions of people. Some of the stuff I do is not done there. Same for LA. Anyway, whatever, you don't get it. That's fine. You think all opportunities are everywhere. I know that in Dubai you can go skiing and all but ... not all regions are as gifted with that kind of wealth. If what I wanted in Seattle was sunshine (and it was) then I was out of luck. Sunshine doesn't really exist in Seattle except some years and only during the summer of those years. Also, a rink being 30 minutes away is not even that much. I went out 4+ times a week at night while I lived in Portland AND EVERY drive was 30+ minutes each way. Hell, I fucking made drives down to Portland over 50+ times while I lived in Seattle. I spent a shit load of my weekends outside of Seattle and THAT drive was frequently 4-5 hours each way! Don't tell me about effort. I put in time and effort in all regards. Going out every night for over a year and meeting thousands of people is enough effort. It just happens to be that Seattle wasn't worth going out in.

Yeah, because I didn't want student debt. Either I went to college for free or I didn't. I didn't feel like declaring bankruptcy whenever I got out of college and couldn't pay the bills.

 

[CraKaJaX]

Read how Seattle freeze works. Maybe you'll get it. Not everyone experiences it but a lot of outsiders do. People who grow up in Seattle generally don't experience it.

I edited. I had an initial phrase and then decided to use another. I do a lot of double negatives in first drafts because of sentences colliding in my head when typing.



Nah, you also don't live in that bad of a region. What you like to do is there enough that you're okay with it. What I liked to do wasn't in Seattle. (The subject was there but the structure around it wasn't)

You have $450/month in student loan debt that you took up. I chose to not take that path. I could have flown to a new city every single weekend this past summer while still living in Seattle. I chose not to do that because it doesn't give me the perspective I desired when visiting a region. (What it's like to actually live there, with a car! What's a regular weekday like there? Not a weekend... Also, a lot of the activities I do aren't on weekend nights. They're on weekdays.) It was also cheaper than flying.

$450/month with a -useful- degree is not something that is going to break the bank. I don't give a shit how you grew up, where you grew up, whatever. My parents aren't well off and I didn't grow up into royalty either. At 27 y/o I'm making more than my parents ever have and probably ever will. Why? Well.. I went to school, yea. Put time and effort into getting an internship. Said internship company ended up hiring me directly out of school @65k/yr. Since all of that I left that company for bigger and better things. How? I put effort into it. Mommy and Daddy didn't hold me hand. As a matter of fact, no one held my hand. If you choose not to take this path, what path did you actually choose? I'm so interested in to how old you are, where you're living (moms basement)?, where your said "savings" are coming from, and if this entire thread is just troll and in reality you make a quarter mil a year. If the latter - bravo. You got us.

 

[Ns1]

thread delivers more than UPS

 

[TridenT]

$450/month with a -useful- degree is not something that is going to break the bank. I don't give a shit how you grew up, where you grew up, whatever. My parents aren't well off and I didn't grow up into royalty either. At 27 y/o I'm making more than my parents ever have and probably ever will. Why? Well.. I went to school, yea. Put time and effort into getting an internship. Said internship company ended up hiring me directly out of school @65k/yr. Since all of that I left that company for bigger and better things. How? I put effort into it. Mommy and Daddy didn't hold me hand. As a matter of fact, no one held my hand. If you choose not to take this path, what path did you actually choose? I'm so interested in to how old you are, where you're living (moms basement)?, where your said "savings" are coming from, and if this entire thread is just troll and in reality you make a quarter mil a year. If the latter - bravo. You got us.

Chump change. You think I'd only earn 6 figures? Scrub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kZg_ALxEz0

I could make $15,000 in 2 hours!

Let's talk about something important!

 

[z1ggy]

Just because a city has a population doesn't mean it has everything you want. Chicago is the third largest city in the country with millions of people. Some of the stuff I do is not done there. Same for LA. Anyway, whatever, you don't get it. That's fine. You think all opportunities are everywhere. I know that in Dubai you can go skiing and all but ... not all regions are as gifted with that kind of wealth. If what I wanted in Seattle was sunshine (and it was) then I was out of luck. Sunshine doesn't really exist in Seattle except some years and only during the summer of those years. Also, a rink being 30 minutes away is not even that much. I went out 4+ times a week at night while I lived in Portland AND EVERY drive was 30+ minutes each way. Hell, I fucking made drives down to Portland over 50+ times while I lived in Seattle. I spent a shit load of my weekends outside of Seattle and THAT drive was frequently 4-5 hours each way! Don't tell me about effort. I put in time and effort in all regards. Going out every night for over a year and meeting thousands of people is enough effort. It just happens to be that Seattle wasn't worth going out in.

Yeah, because I didn't want student debt. Either I went to college for free or I didn't. I didn't feel like declaring bankruptcy whenever I got out of college and couldn't pay the bills.

Fine, you don't have to love Seattle or Chicago, or anywhere. But, you left and..... are you happier now?

Also, again the same theme as with your whole, "employers want X, but I only have Y". You are the one who needs to adjust, instead of constantly trying to find another place to live, or another job to do. If every single company during their phone interview requires you solve a 10-minute coding problem and you can't, either 1) practice practice practice and get better, or 2) admit that maybe that particular job/field is just not for you. Also, If you've traveled to many different cities all over this country and haven't found ONE single place you think you could settle down in... Well, use some logic. You need to realign your expectations.

 

[CraKaJaX]

Chump change. You think I'd only earn 6 figures? Scrub.

Just as I thought - An irrelevant response.

You're doing good so far! I've only got an hour left at work. :biggrin:

 

[OverVolt]

$250k/year would solve all his contrived issues instantly. So I doubt it 🙂

One of Trident's problems is actually money insecurity. And from that perspective alot of his excessive worrying isn't all that contrived.