I've been traveling for over a month now... make it stop

[slugg]

You're basing your budget on an income you don't have, from a job that you haven't applied for, in a city you don't know the location of. You're either the most confidant person I've ever run across, or the stupidest.

Yea. I hope he's trolling.

 

[Ns1]

Yea. I hope he's trolling.

Totally isn't.

 

[RGN]

Yea. I hope he's trolling.

Has to be full troll. I don't believe a word of this.

 

[Capt Caveman]

You're basing your budget on an income you don't have, from a job that you haven't applied for, in a city you don't know the location of. You're either the most confidant person I've ever run across, or the stupidest.

In another year or two of driving, hating every city and eating fruit loops, he'll end up in his parents basement, sponging off them.

 

[Drako]

Make it stop?

OP is dumber/"a bigger attention whore" than McOwned.

 

[EvilYoda]

I'm sure some brewery in Asheville could use a programmer.

 

[OverVolt]

I'm sure some brewery in Asheville could use a programmer.

Exactly. I know pharmacies that need programmers. Lots of businesses you wouldn't expect need programmers.

I know the towns that I like without driving all over the US.

Norfolk (Generally could be summarized as a Naval/Port city, big military presence)

Asheville (in the mountains, I really love it)

There are more cities I'd be interested to check out that I don't know much about. Those would be Omaha, Oklahoma City, Anchorage, Colorado Springs, and Nashville.

 

[Greenman]

In another year or two of driving, hating every city and eating fruit loops, he'll end up in his parents basement, sponging off them.

Am I out of line here? Are developers so in demand that you can land a good job right out of school anywhere in the US? It seems to me that if the job market is that good, there would be recruiters on every campus throwing money at them.

1. Pick your city.
2. Pick the business you want to work for.
3. Pick the salary you want.
4. PROFIT!!!

That just doesn't seem right to me.

 

[TridenT]

Am I out of line here? Are developers so in demand that you can land a good job right out of school anywhere in the US? It seems to me that if the job market is that good, there would be recruiters on every campus throwing money at them.

1. Pick your city.
2. Pick the business you want to work for.
3. Pick the salary you want.
4. PROFIT!!!

That just doesn't seem right to me.

There are recruiters on every campus... I was not a part of the CS department at my school and thus was not allowed to attend events where those big-name recruiters were.

 

[CountZero]

Am I out of line here? Are developers so in demand that you can land a good job right out of school anywhere in the US? It seems to me that if the job market is that good, there would be recruiters on every campus throwing money at them.

1. Pick your city.
2. Pick the business you want to work for.
3. Pick the salary you want.
4. PROFIT!!!

That just doesn't seem right to me.

It isn't right for the vast vast majority of fresh graduates.

There are lots of recruiters and they are throwing good money around but the people that had those kind of options are already snatched up and working. For most everyone else you can pick one of the first three and place limits on the other two assuming you have some kind of decent internship experience or great classroom experience. If that isn't you either then you should be applying to any job you can do and hoping to gain reasonable experience that you can leverage in the future.

The comment about recruiters on campus is surprising. I went to the same school and never ran into a recruitment event that actively checked your major.

 

[TridenT]

It isn't right for the vast vast majority of fresh graduates.

There are lots of recruiters and they are throwing good money around but the people that had those kind of options are already snatched up and working. For most everyone else you can pick one of the first three and place limits on the other two assuming you have some kind of decent internship experience or great classroom experience. If that isn't you either then you should be applying to any job you can do and hoping to gain reasonable experience that you can leverage in the future.

The comment about recruiters on campus is surprising. I went to the same school and never ran into a recruitment event that actively checked your major.

When did you go? I think things have changed drastically for the department over the years. There was always some career fairs for all majors (once a term or year) but they were very broad sweeping and didn't emphasize software development. I went to a couple but I couldn't find any companies that were remotely intriguing for software development. All of the good shit was reserved for the cs department.

Didn't really matter for me anyway. I looked and talked to some of the companies (even though I had almost no interest) and I didn't have the coursework to get into those companies for an internship. I was frequently behind double majors in the cs department with 4.0's. Now that I have the coursework and some minor web dev experience, I fair much better but I didn't have that until the last year after internships were over. Moot point then.

But I think I'll do fine now with jobs. My boss and coworkers didn't think I would have trouble. They reviewed my resume and said I should be fine. I probably won't score a job with google through blind resume submission but I'll still be able to get a job somewhere.

 

[slugg]

Let's see that resume!

 

[TridenT]

This is what I use now.
http://www.filedropper.com/redactedinforesume

The last row is just filler and something I use mostly just for verboseness and also for bots that read the resume.

 

[TridenT]

So far my trip has been...

Seattle, PDX, SF, LA, SD, LA, LV, Denver, Chicago, DC, Philadelphia, NYC, Boston, DC, Asheville, Nashville, New Orleans, and I am heading over to Austin tomorrow.

That said, I haven't been going out a lot while visiting these places now. I'm too tired and it's way too uncomfortably hot out. Mostly staying inside and going out at night for a few things, if anything is happening.

 

[Ns1]

I don't see how you can make a reasonable decision regarding:

I'm trying to find a place to live

by doing this:

I haven't been going out a lot while visiting these places now. I'm too tired and it's way too uncomfortably hot out. Mostly staying inside and going out at night for a few things, if anything is happening

 

[TridenT]

I don't see how you can make a reasonable decision regarding:


by doing this:

A lot of these places I'm just visiting at this point and killing time. Stopping in them before I continue to my next destination. I'm not interested in living in them. New Orleans is a prime example of that. I stopped in Nashville and New Orleans because I didn't want to drive straight from DC to Austin. (A long drive and could miss something) Unfortunately, I haven't been feeling well when I've been visiting these places either. The combination of poor nutrition, bad sleep, and oppressive weather have made me weary. Unfortunately, my body isn't giving me good indications about what I need to eat to feel better. In fact, it's mostly saying, "just stop eating. I don't want food ever again."

Also, I cannot predict with 100% accuracy how I will feel and how the weather will be when I arrive. Today in New Orleans it's a high of 98F with some thunderstorms. Not ideal weather to be trotting about.

And what I do at night is actually the biggest indicator of whether or not I want to live there. I've found that Nashville and New Orleans both indicate that I do not want to live in them from the night activities that I've participated in.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

A lot of these places I'm just visiting at this point and killing time. Stopping in them before I continue to my next destination. I'm not interested in living in them. New Orleans is a prime example of that. I stopped in Nashville and New Orleans because I didn't want to drive straight from DC to Austin. (A long drive and could miss something) Unfortunately, I haven't been feeling well when I've been visiting these places either. The combination of poor nutrition, bad sleep, and oppressive weather have made me weary. Unfortunately, my body isn't giving me good indications about what I need to eat to feel better. In fact, it's mostly saying, "just stop eating. I don't want food ever again."

Also, I cannot predict with 100% accuracy how I will feel and how the weather will be when I arrive. Today in New Orleans it's a high of 98F with some thunderstorms. Not ideal weather to be trotting about.

And what I do at night is actually the biggest indicator of whether or not I want to live there. I've found that Nashville and New Orleans both indicate that I do not want to live in them from the night activities that I've participated in.

Never been to NOLA but downtown Nashville is fucking amazing.

 

[OverVolt]

If you ate long john silvers, that would be one reason why your stomach hurt :awe:

 

[slugg]

Has anyone else seen his resume? Could easily find a job anywhere? Oh boy.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

This is what I use now.
http://www.filedropper.com/redactedinforesume

The last row is just filler and something I use mostly just for verboseness and also for bots that read the resume.

Also, I don't know anything about development. But most of my friends in undergrad were some form of engineering/CS and I think all of them did more than that and they still had to work pretty hard to find something.

Granted this was in 2009-2010, but seriously some of them did internships with google, MSFT, intel, etc and still were having trouble.

Be real dude.....isn't Dell HQ in round rock?

 

[TridenT]

Also, I don't know anything about development. But most of my friends in undergrad were some form of engineering/CS and I think all of them did more than that and they still had to work pretty hard to find something.

Granted this was in 2009-2010, but seriously some of them did internships with google, MSFT, intel, etc and still were having trouble.

Be real dude.....isn't Dell HQ in round rock?

Dell doesn't interest me as a company. That's about the only thing I remember that is up in Round Rock. There is other stuff I'm sure but I don't think there's anything I'd like to work for up there.

I was looking at IBM (eh.), Apple (it's almost all enterprise IT support and hardware, unfortunately for me), and some others (like UT Austin's research lab and so forth, but the jobs seem quite low on pay...) but I don't know yet. I have to sit down and start applying for a bunch of places there. I also don't know what's entirely available. I think I looked at rackspace or maybe even applied. I don't remember. It's also very hardware oriented at that job and that's something I don't have the knowledge/skills for. (Which would take a long time to acquire)

I'm not going to sign a year long lease when I move there. I'll sublet someone's place for a month or two, find a job in that time, and then after I get the job I'll commute whatever amount I need to until my sublet is over while I find a new place that's close to my job. (Or wherever I decide is the best fit for me)

It'll be annoying to have to move twice in one or two months but I don't have so much shit that that's a large issue. (Nor will I accumulate the amount to make it bothersome in the course of two months... I'll probably rent a U-Haul for 3 hours to move my stuff into, drive over to the new place, unload it into the apartment, return the u-haul...)

 

[TridenT]

In Houston at a starbucks.

My car's AC has completely gone. Driving to Houston from
New Orleans nearly caused me to pass out while driving. Heat exhaustion is a thing...

It's really hot...

 

[yllus]

I think your game plan has some merit. Where I live - both the city and the proximity to downtown / the fun part of time - is incredibly important to me. I have a requirement of living no more than 15 minutes away from my place of work, which also must be downtown. I'm lucky enough to be able to dictate things like that and make it work (mostly because I am in software development).

The plan to sublet (hell, maybe even use AirBnB) seems like a good one; do that and take on some contract work, or a FT position if you can manage it. I'd be a little wary of how strong a job applicant you actually are, though - if your listed skills are all you have, you'd better present well in interviews and be prepared to accept an average salary for starters.

It is a shame that you stress about all of this, though. This really should be a great experience - I'd love to take a weeks-long road trip and see the country (well, America maybe - I've sort of seen most of Canada already). Unfortunately I suspect your general demeanour won't let you enjoy very much that life offers you.

 

[rockyct]

I think your game plan has some merit. Where you live - both the city and the proximity to downtown / the fun part of time - is incredibly important to me. I have a requirement of living no more than 15 minutes away from my place of work, which also must be downtown. I'm lucky enough to be able to dictate things like that and make it work (mostly because I am in software development).

The plan to sublet (hell, maybe even use AirBnB) seems like a good one; do that and take on some contract work, or a FT position if you can manage it. I'd be a little wary of how strong a job applicant you actually are, though - if your listed skills are all you have, you'd better present well in interviews and be prepared to accept an average salary for starters.

It is a shame that you stress about all of this, though. This really should be a great experience - I'd love to take a weeks-long road trip and see the country (well, America maybe - I've sort of seen most of Canada already). Unfortunately I suspect your general demeanour won't let you enjoy very much life offers you.

Yeah, I love driving and longest solo trip is from San Diego to Vancouver, which is a beautiful drive except through the Central Valley. I just booked a room at a Motel 6 online whenever I was starting to get tired. It wasn't during the summer though so cheap hotel availability was plentiful. I would love to do it across the US and visit National Parks and whatnot. Nightlife doesn't interest me much though even though I'm in San Diego, which is supposedly pretty good in that way. Board game night with friends would be more enjoyable.

Anyway, this would be a dream vacation for so many but I feel like with many of his endeavors, there is a stench of desperation that makes everything turn so shitty. Instead of a month long road trip to just take the time to explore, he's turned it into a month of forcing himself to find the perfect spot for him to live. Practically every where I go, I think "you know, I actually wouldn't mind living here." (Except fuck Florida, I can't tolerate humidity). Part of that is the vacation high but a lot of that is being in the right frame of mind to enjoy a place, which he is preventing from happening. Going through the south without an AC in the car seems to be suicidal, and pretty much guarantees he's going to hate everything.

 

[Red Squirrel]

In Houston at a starbucks.

My car's AC has completely gone. Driving to Houston from
New Orleans nearly caused me to pass out while driving. Heat exhaustion is a thing...

It's really hot...

That sucks, I can't imagine being in the intense sweaty heat without AC. So sticky and uncomfortable.