I've been thinking about suicide the last couple days

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destrekor

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Huh, I was under the impression that either would be somewhat painful to breathe and that inert gases were the only way to easily lose consciousness painlessly. Thanks for the info.

Carbon Monoxide is a silent killer, probably one of the few, if not the only, toxic gas that can cause death without pain at high concentrations (you go unconscious in a few breaths, then dead in a few minutes). Lower levels will induce symptoms of acute toxicity.

Carbon Dioxide can be extremely painful, but at very high concentrations, can also knock you out in a few breaths and kill you from there.

Inert gasses basically don't poison you at all, they just cause hypoxia, which is actually painless as long as you can continuously remove Carbon Dioxide from your body. Surround yourself in a tank of nitrogen gas, you'll get no oxygen but your body will dispel all CO2, and you won't feel a thing except a rapid increase in sleepiness.
 

Remobz

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I will commit suicide then tell you guys what went through my mind just before I did it once I come back to life.
 

highland145

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I've only been here a few years but I'd give 5 to 1 that the the OP would be replaced within a week.
 

Zodiark1593

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I will commit suicide then tell you guys what went through my mind just before I did it once I come back to life.
Why, I don't suppose anyone wants to stop this obviously suicidal and deranged person from getting the help he apparently needs.
 

MongGrel

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Carbon Monoxide is a silent killer, probably one of the few, if not the only, toxic gas that can cause death without pain at high concentrations (you go unconscious in a few breaths, then dead in a few minutes). Lower levels will induce symptoms of acute toxicity.

Carbon Dioxide can be extremely painful, but at very high concentrations, can also knock you out in a few breaths and kill you from there.

Inert gasses basically don't poison you at all, they just cause hypoxia, which is actually painless as long as you can continuously remove Carbon Dioxide from your body. Surround yourself in a tank of nitrogen gas, you'll get no oxygen but your body will dispel all CO2, and you won't feel a thing except a rapid increase in sleepiness.

Maybe you should push that for the prison system, sounds much cheaper and efficient than most forms of capital punishment they use these days.
 

Red Squirrel

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Maybe you should push that for the prison system, sounds much cheaper and efficient than most forms of capital punishment they use these days.

No kidding. Hell, do it Hitler style, have a bunch of people on death row go in a room at once then fill it with CO. Burn the bodies after. Get rid of a bunch of scum all at once.

Come to think of it, Hitler is not the only one to do something like this, lot of animal shelters do it too. Kinda sad when you think about it.

Of course the issue with the US justice system is that it's not exactly, just. People who go to jail don't always deserve it, let alone capital punishment.

But the murders and stuff, they should be killed right away. Get rid of all the administrative BS that makes it expensive and just gas them.
 

Kadarin

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No kidding. Hell, do it Hitler style, have a bunch of people on death row go in a room at once then fill it with CO. Burn the bodies after. Get rid of a bunch of scum all at once.

Come to think of it, Hitler is not the only one to do something like this, lot of animal shelters do it too. Kinda sad when you think about it.

Of course the issue with the US justice system is that it's not exactly, just. People who go to jail don't always deserve it, let alone capital punishment.

But the murders and stuff, they should be killed right away. Get rid of all the administrative BS that makes it expensive and just gas them.

Everyone deserves due process of law, regardless of the crime.
 

Red Squirrel

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Everyone deserves due process of law, regardless of the crime.

Then they should apply that concept to people who pirate/download stuff. Why do murderers get due process of law but people who pirate stuff don't? I know it's categorized as civil or w/e but why? Categorize it like any other crime.

If anything it's murderers who should be except from due process.
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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Maybe you should push that for the prison system, sounds much cheaper and efficient than most forms of capital punishment they use these days.

I'll ignore the tangent that this post sparked, and say that yes, it should be the approach.

But humans are not always intelligent, and view "suffocation" as inhumane.

Some animal shelters employ Nitrogen or Argon, and some communities then seek to bar the practice, in favor of chemically-induced euthanasia as opposed to the horror that is painless asphyxiation. :rolleyes:

Sadly, part of the issue is many gas chambers still employ carbon monoxide, which, while technically painless, if concentrations are wrong, it may not prompt loss of consciousness and thus instead promotes confusion and aggression in animals.
But the right approach is choosing an inert gas.

Gas chambers used to be lawful for lethal executions, though they almost always used toxic gasses, which is mostly why it fell out of favor, as effects could be prolonged.

It's too easy to demonstrate that inert gasses cause painless asphyxiation, as one can immediately return oxygen to the victim and recount the experience.

Asphyxiation is only painful when carbon dioxide is not allowed to escape the body, as in increased dosages beyond what our body produces naturally, it is a toxin, and causes immense pain. If you can inhale and exhale, you complete void your lungs and blood of carbon dioxide and remaining oxygen, and fail to introduce any new oxygen. It wouldn't be like holding your breath, as in unassisted diving, because you are going to great lengths to preserve all unused oxygen. Complete oxygen deprivation but painless breathing would be confusing at first, as the lack of pain would encourage you to continue breathing, and it would only take 30-60 seconds to render the body unconscious. Possibly convulsions might cause onlookers some distress, like they freak out about those experienced while unconscious during lethal injection, but suffice it to say, induced death rarely appears peaceful unless you go for any of the instant brain-kill approaches.
 

MongGrel

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Sorry for that, but yeah know the OP was just phishing to begin with.

I'm going to stop commenting due to the nature of the original subject.
 

moonbogg

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There are a million ways to kill yourself. If you're going to hang yourself, why not go down to the hardware store and buy a nice rope suitable for the job and find a good, stout crossbeam? Why a belt and a door knob? Why jump off a building? That must be very painful when you hit the ground. Why shoot yourself in the head and leave a big mess for your wife and kids to clean up?

I suspect most suicides are very spur of the moment, although the thoughts and depression may have been lingering for many years.

Because you can stop if you want. You can gently slump down, knowing that you can stop if you want, and you can apply just enough pressure so you black out, but not enough to be very painful and rip your head off. Its a kinder, gentler, less fearful way to hang yourself.
 

Mai72

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I'd think that if you hung yourself your body would release chemicals to make the pain bearable.

Crapping yourself? Who cares? Once the grim reaper strikes it doesn't matter.
 

Smoblikat

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Suicide is not worth it. And if you decide to not go through with it halfway through, the hospital bills are unfairly unreasonable.
 

eng2d2

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Someone told me, when I was in my pre teens, that carbon monoxide is a horrible death. Now I have not made any readings of any type of suicide so I really dont know if this is true
 

MongGrel

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I'd think that if you hung yourself your body would release chemicals to make the pain bearable.

Crapping yourself? Who cares? Once the grim reaper strikes it doesn't matter.

I thought you were one of his best buds, no advice to talk him out of it ?
 

Mayne

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Someone told me, when I was in my pre teens, that carbon monoxide is a horrible death. Now I have not made any readings of any type of suicide so I really dont know if this is true

The only basis I have on this type of suicide is an news story I read a few years ago about 2 teens fucking in a car and falling asleep afterwards.

True story.

Death by misadventure.
 

Red Squirrel

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Next time someone commits suicide they should write a log of the whole thing as it happens. Perhaps have a recording device and pen and paper as depending on the method of suicide one may be easier to do than the other during the last minutes of the person's life. Basically log your feelings as the death comes nearer.

Mayne? Do it! For Science!
 

eng2d2

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The only basis I have on this type of suicide is an news story I read a few years ago about 2 teens fucking in a car and falling asleep afterwards.

True story.

Death by misadventure.

No worries !! I think last year they were looking for a couple from new jersey(?) I believe the couple just got married and one was starting a new job. Anyway the first week the family, police was frantic looking for the couple. Then after a month and also putting out fliers the story went cold. No clue. It was a mystery and the story died. Six months later spring came and they found the couple at their detached garage. The couple was having sex in the detached garage with the car running and suffocated. Cars gas guage registered empty.

"Next time someone commits suicide they should write a log of the whole thing as it happens. Perhaps have a recording device and pen and paper as depending on the method of suicide one may be easier to do than the other during the last minutes of the person's life. Basically log your feelings as the death comes nearer.

Mayne? Do it! For Science!"

Actually no need for this as few people have killed themselves live online. I just dont have the guts to study it but I have watched it. I dont care to understand how or why.
 

z1ggy

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Came in expecting Mayne talking about offing himself and everybody encouraging.

Leaving disappointed.