I've been playing WoW for three hours...

magomago

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i liked fishing when i was alone...game isn't the funnest alone...but you can play alone if that is what you want since unless you meet up with friends making a mpaty isn't the easiest task

but try fishing if you are human :D
 

Schadenfroh

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i was hooked after about 20 minutes, it now owns my soul get out while you still can. BTW, i was like that with SWG.
 

BlueWeasel

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The first MMORPG I played was DAOC and I played it for a total of about 30 minutes. I tried Asheron's Call next and have played it for 3 years, so go figure. :)

I played WOW during the open Beta, but just wasn't blown away by it. It's a great game, but I just don't need another "addiction" like AC1 was for me. So, I'm trying to avoid it completely.
 

HostVisions

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early going is pretty boring, it's all about leveling. I'd give it a go until lvl 8-10 at least. Lvl 5 you'll pick up some professions and the quests start getting harder.
 

dbzwukan

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if it wasn't fun why play for 3 hours straight?


once you hit level 10, (should be a few hours of playing), you can customize your characters.

so far, the priest is the least fun... but really in demand.... in my opinion.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
i was hooked after about 20 minutes, it now owns my soul get out while you still can. BTW, i was like that with SWG.


I'm a level 6 human rogue right now. It seems all I do is go on little quests for people. What else am I supposed to be doing.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: dbzwukan
if it wasn't fun why play for 3 hours straight?


once you hit level 10, (should be a few hours of playing), you can customize your characters.

so far, the priest is the least fun... but really in demand.... in my opinion.


It's enterntaining, and fun, but boring. It seems like I just go on little quests.
 

EvilManagedCare

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I've tried other MMORPGs and threw them out after a few hours (EQ and UO). WoW is the first one I've enjoyed and intend to continue playing. It just may not be your cup of tea Jumpem. Of course, you'll want to decide before your free trial expires.
 

Bateluer

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WoW is a very simplistic game, for an MMO. WoW is a good MMO to get your feet wet in the MMORPG universe because of that simplistic, Diablo-esque gameplay. I'd say it'll peter out in 6 months, but people are staying playing Diablo 2 religiously. :(

Pick up a copy of EQ2 and play a man's MMO. :)
 

nordlaw

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I've been agonizing over whether to try WOW or EQ2 since well before their release dates.

I work on Macs, but I play on PCs; but when I'm travelling, I would love to be able to play a little on my Powerbook, which WOW would allow me.

I've played a ton of games in the past few years, but I miss the total immersion I experienced back in the MUD/MUSH days, and i don't want to be totally disappointed by whichever I choose.

Arghish. I guess I could flip a coin.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: nordlaw
I've been agonizing over whether to try WOW or EQ2 since well before their release dates.

I work on Macs, but I play on PCs; but when I'm travelling, I would love to be able to play a little on my Powerbook, which WOW would allow me.

I've played a ton of games in the past few years, but I miss the total immersion I experienced back in the MUD/MUSH days, and i don't want to be totally disappointed by whichever I choose.

Arghish. I guess I could flip a coin.

EQ2 for depth, complexity, and RPing

WoW for simplistic, Diablo-esque, PvP gameplay.

At present, EQ2 doesn't have their PvP servers up yet, but they are coming.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
WoW is a very simplistic game, for an MMO. WoW is a good MMO to get your feet wet in the MMORPG universe because of that simplistic, Diablo-esque gameplay. I'd say it'll peter out in 6 months, but people are staying playing Diablo 2 religiously. :(

Pick up a copy of EQ2 and play a man's MMO. :)

EQ was a great game - up until the Planes of Power expansion, when Sony murdered it. What makes you think/say EQ2 is any better? WoW might not have the challenge (some would say difficulty) of the EQ of old - but neither does current EQ, and EQ2 was billed as being even easier. At least Blizzard can code properly (WoW was more stable than EQ 6 months before its release, when EQ was 5 years old) and doesn't treat its customers like garbage.

Stay away from EQ2, and for that matter all Sony products & services. Learn from others' mistakes, not your own.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Gurck
What makes you think/say EQ2 is any better?

Because I've been playing EQ2 since its release. :roll:

In the probably hundreds of hours I've logged since then, its crashed about twice. And those were partially my fault. I was running the game minimized while I had my store opened, while browing in Firefox, DLing BTs, and streaming video files from desktop to my laptop.

Having played both WoW and EQ2, I can easily say that WoW is by far the simpler game. EQ2 is not. I've got a level 22 monk and I'm still learning things about the game. :) I had a level 20 NE Hunter in WoW (within 3 days), and I'd already done pretty much everything that was worth doing in WoW. The PvP combat didn't really do it for me, a few small battles certainly paled in comparison to the 200 player seige warfare I experience in Shadowbane. (Shadowbane is too laggy, won't discuss it further) Also, the level of maturity of players was VERY low. A lot of the Bnet crowd migrated to WoW. You get a lot of immature players in WoW. Granted, there are a lot in EQ2 as well, but if you play on an RP server (Antonia Bayle, Lucan D'Lere), then you don't have to deal with it. SOE came down VERY hard on the few people strupid enough to use 1337 sp3ak on the Lucan D'Lere server. :)

It was kind a funny actually, he did it in shout in Antonica. Few moments after he did it, a system message came up notifying the server of his 72 hour ban and reminding us that such was banned in the EULA for the RP server. :)

Blizzard can code a game very well, and WoW is a very stable game. But gameplay is the fundamental issue here. And WoW is a very simplistic game. Its like comparing watered down beer to EQ2's straight vodka shot.
 

LeetViet

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Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
The first MMORPG I played was DAOC and I played it for a total of about 30 minutes. I tried Asheron's Call next and have played it for 3 years, so go figure. :)

I played WOW during the open Beta, but just wasn't blown away by it. It's a great game, but I just don't need another "addiction" like AC1 was for me. So, I'm trying to avoid it completely.

Same for me, I played WoW during CB, first ST, second ST, then OB and it just wasn't "worth it" to me.

They're missing alot of features too, such as the ability to communicate in different languages
 

LeetViet

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Bateluer
WoW is a very simplistic game, for an MMO. WoW is a good MMO to get your feet wet in the MMORPG universe because of that simplistic, Diablo-esque gameplay. I'd say it'll peter out in 6 months, but people are staying playing Diablo 2 religiously. :(

Pick up a copy of EQ2 and play a man's MMO. :)

EQ was a great game - up until the Planes of Power expansion, when Sony murdered it. What makes you think/say EQ2 is any better? WoW might not have the challenge (some would say difficulty) of the EQ of old - but neither does current EQ, and EQ2 was billed as being even easier. At least Blizzard can code properly (WoW was more stable than EQ 6 months before its release, when EQ was 5 years old) and doesn't treat its customers like garbage.

Stay away from EQ2, and for that matter all Sony products & services. Learn from others' mistakes, not your own.

Hold on a second there...
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Gurck
What makes you think/say EQ2 is any better?

Because I've been playing EQ2 since its release. :roll:

In the probably hundreds of hours I've logged since then, its crashed about twice. And those were partially my fault. I was running the game minimized while I had my store opened, while browing in Firefox, DLing BTs, and streaming video files from desktop to my laptop.

Having played both WoW and EQ2, I can easily say that WoW is by far the simpler game. EQ2 is not. I've got a level 22 monk and I'm still learning things about the game. :) I had a level 20 NE Hunter in WoW (within 3 days), and I'd already done pretty much everything that was worth doing in WoW. The PvP combat didn't really do it for me, a few small battles certainly paled in comparison to the 200 player seige warfare I experience in Shadowbane. (Shadowbane is too laggy, won't discuss it further) Also, the level of maturity of players was VERY low. A lot of the Bnet crowd migrated to WoW. You get a lot of immature players in WoW. Granted, there are a lot in EQ2 as well, but if you play on an RP server (Antonia Bayle, Lucan D'Lere), then you don't have to deal with it. SOE came down VERY hard on the few people strupid enough to use 1337 sp3ak on the Lucan D'Lere server. :)

It was kind a funny actually, he did it in shout in Antonica. Few moments after he did it, a system message came up notifying the server of his 72 hour ban and reminding us that such was banned in the EULA for the RP server. :)

Blizzard can code a game very well, and WoW is a very stable game. But gameplay is the fundamental issue here. And WoW is a very simplistic game. Its like comparing watered down beer to EQ2's straight vodka shot.

I played EQ for four years, I can sort of see what you're saying, but I know how Sony's greed and incompetence has tainted their games - I've seen it firsthand. The playerbase attracted by such low-rate business tactics has suffered greatly, so don't give me the 'b.net kiddies' line - if anything, they've migrated to EQ/EQ2. Need I remind you where the whole "PST" thing started? Don't even get me started on /shout'ing auctions or .. :vomit; player-run casinos...

You say it's stable, but I'm not talking only about the game engine. Take a broken quest for example, there are what, 3? in WoW? Then you have a game like EQ, 5 years old, and a patch breaks the SK epic and SK "Iksar epic" - the bug goes unfixed for three months. Or the quest container bug, which prevented ~75% of all quests (any with a combine in a quest-specific container) from being finished, unfixed for a month... Blizzard was better than that with their battle.net games, and that's a free service. Having customers pay for that is deplorable.

But that's not enough, Sony wants no customer happy. So they put you through a nag screen every damn time you log in. If you fsck up and click "Purchase", oops! You just bought their new game/expansion, no confirmation screen, no refunds, provided you pay for your subscription with a credit card, and not prepaid game cards. That's not enough either though, they spam incessantly in-game about their products. When Verant'ss principles (The Vision) still had a foothold, that was considered to ruin the immersion (which it certainly does) and never happened, but now it's a matter of course.

$13 a player (over $5,000,000) a month isn't enough either though, they need to sell expansions as often as possible, so you get a new expansion every few months. They've cut back so much on their staff though, and are overworking what few, underqualified developers & coders they have so much, that the expansions are utter siht. Plots read like comic books aimed at the 6-10 crowd and bugs abound. If people don't want to buy these expansions, they're out of luck, since even easily-obtained items from them will make items from the last expansion completely obsolete. Carrot & stick in its simplest form, but with nothing else even the addicts like me are finding something new.

WoW isn't the end-all, be-all of mmorpgs, certainly. There are a lot of things I don't agree with, or would like to see different. It does, however, beat the snot out of current EQ (doesn't touch EQ in its prime). EQ has suffered wholly because of Sony and their ruthless business tactics. We have ample evidence of this from SW:G, another sloppy bugfest. They're like a virus, contaminating everything they touch. Sorry, but if your eyes were open you'd realize EQ2 is just as bad.

I have a lot of hope for Vanguard. As I'm sure you know, Brad McQuaid is the head dev, and a lot of the original EQ team is with him as well. With M$($$$) backing it could really be everything EQ was and more, and with newer technology / better graphics... provided he has sufficient say in how the game is done. WoW can certainly tide me over until then.

LeetViet - anecdotes are synonymous with losing arguments. Even Newegg has the occasional unhappy customer, it means nothing. I'm much more interested in trends & numbers. Blizzard obviously wins in the coding department, and anyone - even the mafia - wins in treatment of people vs. Sony.
 

Hadsus

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Am I missing the fun and addictive part everyone talked about?


Learn how to post rather than troll....ie., why you are dissatisfied and/or what your expectations were.

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