iTunes for Windows Gripe Thread

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ColonelMustard

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Originally posted by: waylman
Originally posted by: ColonelMustard
for all of you complaining about ogg support, here you go: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/qtcomponents/Win32-oggvorbis.zip?download

what does this do exactly?

it allows ogg vorbis playback in iTunes...

edit: extract it to your quicktime extensions folder, (it's usually C:\WINNT\system32\Quicktime
 

abaez

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
any way to tell it not to mess with tags? i'm afraid to install:(

Before you add any songs, go to preferences -> advanced tab.. all the checkboxes unclick them (let itunes organize my music etc) then in the box above that add your mp3 dir.. this is the way I did it and it did not rename/move/copy/change any files or tags.. works great.. if not it'll rename all the files and move them all around if you let itunes organize your music
 

isaacmacdonald

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I hate i-tunes for osx. does windows version of i-tunes also insist on copying all mp3's you open w/it into its own "itunes library"?
 

BigPappaBuck

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uhm............ i added 7,025 songs and it works fine it crashed while adding them because of two corrupt mp3's I had you just have to look and see what song it was adding when it crashed and that will be your problem. I love the program so far, the only thing i wish it had was the always on top minimized mode and compatibliity with my crappy dell multimedia keyboard when it's not on top for using it while playing games.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: abaez
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
any way to tell it not to mess with tags? i'm afraid to install:(

Before you add any songs, go to preferences -> advanced tab.. all the checkboxes unclick them (let itunes organize my music etc) then in the box above that add your mp3 dir.. this is the way I did it and it did not rename/move/copy/change any files or tags.. works great.. if not it'll rename all the files and move them all around if you let itunes organize your music

well it hasn't raped my songs yet, i just didn't choose to have it organize my library when i installed.

seems interesting so far.

no always on top feature is kinda glaring.

the visualizer needs optimization, sure i get 30fps, but i get more with other winamp vis that look just as good or better. my cpu isn't that much of a slouch.

dragging songs to player in vis mode doesn't work:(
 

Kadarin

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It works fine on my system, but that's because I have it set so that it doesn't copy the music file into its own library folder. Import a song into iTunes (drag and drop!), and it gets indexed in the iTunes library, but the file itself stays where and as it was on the drive. There's a checkbox in the preferences somewhere for this.

I like:

Smart dynamic playlists. Very quick, very easy, very intuitive; far better than Winamp's m3u setup.

I dislike:

Lack of skinnability.
Crappy visualization.
Apparent lack of plugin support (I could be wrong here)
UI is ugly as hell, and doesn't mesh well with the Windows theme. Did I mention the lack of skinnability?
No minimize or close to tray option.
The whole ID3 tag thing.

There's probably a few other things I dislike about the program, but it's late and my brain's working on something else.

iTunes on the Mac is a better fit, because it meshes with the UI a bit better. To me, the program's outstanding playlist features outweigh the UI suckiness.
 

0roo0roo

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still, it seems sorta beta at this point because of all the problems, but it is the first windows version.

does the mac one have always on top at the least?
 

Eug

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Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
I hate i-tunes for osx. does windows version of i-tunes also insist on copying all mp3's you open w/it into its own "itunes library"?
Neither the Windows version nor the Mac OS X version requires this.

ie. It's an option in the in the Preferences.

Also, it's an option in the Prefs to allow it organize your files. Keep this off if you don't want iTunes to mess with your folders and filenames.

And tags are VERY useful. As somebody said, the iPod allows navigation using tag info.

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I think the software is great, but some things will be slow on a machine under 1 GHz.
 

SSP

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Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
I hate i-tunes for osx. does windows version of i-tunes also insist on copying all mp3's you open w/it into its own "itunes library"?
Neither the Windows version nor the Mac OS X version requires this.

ie. It's an option in the in the Preferences.

Also, it's an option in the Prefs to allow it organize your files. Keep this off if you don't want iTunes to mess with your folders and filenames.

And tags are VERY useful. As somebody said, the iPod allows navigation using tag info.

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I think the software is great, but some things will be slow on a machine under 1 GHz.

Yeah, and that option is off by default.
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
What do you guys use tags for? Is it that hard to organize your music, or do your players not function well without them?

I've never tagged any of my music.

I didn't tag my music until I started using iTunes on my Mac (iTunes can do it automatically when you rip the CD). I would never go back to no-tags. I guess part of that is because searching for music and making smart playlists in iTunes is so fast, easy, and flexible that I'd never want to do it any other way. If your player doesn't do much w/tags I guess there is no point, but when you use software that takes great advantage of tags, like iTunes, I don't see why you wouldn't use them. Not using tags and manually searching and sorting using a directory structure just seems like an ineffcient/work around way of doing things IMO.


Lethal
 

Spencer278

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Is the program that hash, uplaods, and then finds and writes the ID3 tag to the file still around? I have no idea what it was named.
 

0roo0roo

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i think tag and rename.

thinking about using it to fix some of my old rips. hopefully its tags are itunes compliant.
 

Tetsuo

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
hopefully its tags are itunes compliant.


They are


All id3's are the same (unless they are a different version 1, 2,3 etc)
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: waylman
OK, what is the easiest and fastest way to write tags. I'm using tag and rename right now but when I try to write tages using info from allmusic.com the track number is not included

um after you get the tag use code #6 to write the track number...

learn how to use the program. it can do almost anything if you know how to work it
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
What do you guys use tags for? Is it that hard to organize your music, or do your players not function well without them?

I've never tagged any of my music.

tags make evreything better. thanks for living 10 years behind everyone else
 

Hubris

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Originally posted by: LS20
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
What do you guys use tags for? Is it that hard to organize your music, or do your players not function well without them?

I've never tagged any of my music.

tags make evreything better. thanks for living 10 years behind everyone else


Thanks for being an ass. Now quiet down.
 

0roo0roo

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tagging so slow...:( even with tag and rename its taking me forever..damnit:( wish my rip software had includeding tagging in the first place:(
 

Hector13

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
tagging so slow...:( even with tag and rename its taking me forever..damnit:( wish my rip software had includeding tagging in the first place:(

have you tried id tag-it 3? It lets you get id3 tags from the internet for full albums (tag&rename might do the same, but I have never tried it).
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: LS20
tags make evreything better. thanks for living 10 years behind everyone else

Thanks for failing 1st grade grammar!

How do tags "make evreything better" [sic]?

 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Hector13
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
tagging so slow...:( even with tag and rename its taking me forever..damnit:( wish my rip software had includeding tagging in the first place:(

have you tried id tag-it 3? It lets you get id3 tags from the internet for full albums (tag&rename might do the same, but I have never tried it).

tag and rename does use the net for album lookups, which has sped up the process considerably. its still slow though. no option to automate it. doing the tags takes like 10-15 seconds an album after you've looked up the info to boot.
 

isaacmacdonald

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Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
I hate i-tunes for osx. does windows version of i-tunes also insist on copying all mp3's you open w/it into its own "itunes library"?
Neither the Windows version nor the Mac OS X version requires this.

ie. It's an option in the in the Preferences.

Also, it's an option in the Prefs to allow it organize your files. Keep this off if you don't want iTunes to mess with your folders and filenames.

And tags are VERY useful. As somebody said, the iPod allows navigation using tag info.

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I think the software is great, but some things will be slow on a machine under 1 GHz.

Yeah, and that option is off by default.

certainly not in version 1 for osx.