ITT Technical Institute...

[idNut]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
You don't sound like someone who would be motivated to do well in a course you don't want to take....
Almost any *real* college will require a certain number of credit hours in various areas to make you, ahem, "well rounded."
If you are going to use "I'm not motivated enough" or "I'm not interested enough to do well" as excuses for being a lazy a@@ in those classes, then you're going to end up failing.

Being lazy and not being interested are two things that I think too often get confused. I'm not lazy it's just I'll have 0 interest in the subject giving me no motivation to complete it.

 

[Hector13]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: DrPizza
You don't sound like someone who would be motivated to do well in a course you don't want to take....
Almost any *real* college will require a certain number of credit hours in various areas to make you, ahem, "well rounded."
If you are going to use "I'm not motivated enough" or "I'm not interested enough to do well" as excuses for being a lazy a@@ in those classes, then you're going to end up failing.

Being lazy and not being interested are two things that I think too often get confused. I'm not lazy it's just I'll have 0 interest in the subject giving me no motivation to complete it.

DrPizza has a good point. Good luck finding a job that you will be always "interested" in... If jobs were that "motivating", they wouldn't be paying you.

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: DrPizza
You don't sound like someone who would be motivated to do well in a course you don't want to take....
Almost any *real* college will require a certain number of credit hours in various areas to make you, ahem, "well rounded."
If you are going to use "I'm not motivated enough" or "I'm not interested enough to do well" as excuses for being a lazy a@@ in those classes, then you're going to end up failing.

Being lazy and not being interested are two things that I think too often get confused. I'm not lazy it's just I'll have 0 interest in the subject giving me no motivation to complete it.

DrPizza has a good point. Good luck finding a job that you will be always "interested" in... If jobs were that "motivating", they wouldn't be paying you.

Well, I'm going to try college just as a safety net. I'm going to be pursuing other things outside of school. Me and my friend are still interested in getting a team together to start making games, currently it's just me and him, an artist and a programmer. I'd like to become involved with an independent filmmaker in the area and write a screenplay or just be part of the crew. My family has a strong workaholic background which I will most likely follow once I find whatever job I enjoy. I plan to make my job my life really; that's what I've always planned. I want a job that is my hobby.

 

[idNut]

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[todpod]

It sounds like you need to look into Liberal Studies at a place like Clarion. You can custom build your own program, some art, some computers maybe some communication classes.

The key here is finding the right advisor to help you do this.

Btw, you could avoid most math, and foreign languages too if you desire.

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: todpod
It sounds like you need to look into Liberal Studies at a place like Clarion. You can custom build your own program, some art, some computers maybe some communication classes.

The key here is finding the right advisor to help you do this.

Btw, you could avoid most math, and foreign languages too if you desire.

That sounds good. Liberal studies eh? There a reason it's called that?

 

[Lyfer]

Go to a local University and be happy with life.

 

[Luden]

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: Luden
I know quite a few people who have gone through ITT and off to well paying jobs and never looked back, It does have its advantages and disadvantages to other schools.

Luden.

Most of the ITT grads I knew were stuck in mid level jobs because they lacked a Bachlors, and to get a bach. they would need to go to four years of college where as that same assiociates will transfer at least partially at just about any school.

ITT does do bachelors degrees as well.

Luden.

 

[SackOfAllTrades]

they call it liberal studies cuz most of the time the job you'll land after you graduate will be "liberal" enough to let you find something better. Most typical example is the manager at Burger King being cool with you filling out Kinko's applications for "copy machine feeder."

 

[Willoughbyva]

I went to a community college and took liberal arts for transfer. Then I went on to a 4 year school and am studying communication, well writing actually. It really isn't that bad. I still need 2 courses from community college and 3 from my four year school to graduate. The reason it works like that is because of the way it is set up. I am a distance learner. http://www.odu.edu/home/distance.html Maybe some university/community college in your state offer something like that?

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: SackOfAllTrades
they call it liberal studies cuz most of the time the job you'll land after you graduate will be "liberal" enough to let you find something better. Most typical example is the manager at Burger King being cool with you filling out Kinko's applications for "copy machine feeder."

Man, this really pisses me off. There's always the cocksmoker on ATOT that just completely bursts your bubble from his haugtiness and egotism, sh!t, even your name reflects your pretentiousness, sack of all trades. Everyone acts like because I didn't take the higher classes in high school and aren't going to the most prestigious of colleges that I'm a fvck up who has no future but that of a burger joint. Sh!t, both my parents didn't go to college and they're both making >$35,000. They approached their careers with nothing but kindness and a good attitude and it got them this far. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem so quit being part of the problem and help a fellow human-being out.

Read Tupac's "The Rose That Grew From Concrete".

 

[wyvrn]

Don't worry about the snobs. Do what you want and be happy. I still recommend the CC and then Uni route, it will be the most rewarding you will see.

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: SackOfAllTrades
they call it liberal studies cuz most of the time the job you'll land after you graduate will be "liberal" enough to let you find something better. Most typical example is the manager at Burger King being cool with you filling out Kinko's applications for "copy machine feeder."

Man, this really pisses me off. There's always the cocksmoker on ATOT that just completely bursts your bubble from his haugtiness and egotism, sh!t, even your name reflects your pretentiousness, sack of all trades. Everyone acts like because I didn't take the higher classes in high school and aren't going to the most prestigious of colleges that I'm a fvck up who has no future but that of a burger joint. Sh!t, both my parents didn't go to college and they're both making >$35,000. They approached their careers with nothing but kindness and a good attitude and it got them this far. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem so quit being part of the problem and help a fellow human-being out.

Read Tupac's "The Rose That Grew From Concrete".

 

[SackOfAllTrades]

here's the best help: BE A MAN AND TAKE SOME MATH (FSCK SCIENCE THOUGH).

 

[Willoughbyva]

idnut: Get a degree in what you want. You are the one that will have to go to class study and make the grades in whatever you decide on. Personally I would rather take classes and study something I am intested in than take something because it is something I am "supposed" to do. That is why I am taking writing courses.

Also you might try here http://www.careerkey.org/english/you/ select take the career key. It is interesting, but not gospel.

 

[vi edit]

US Military. It's free. Really only requires a HS Diploma, and might just help out that attitude of yours.

 

[UNCjigga]

My guess is that whatever jobs you qualify for with an ITT or correspondence school degree/diploma/certificate have already been shipped overseas.

 

[Sid59]

the commerical almost made me wanan ditch my years @ University and signed up for ITT. Almost.

 

[QueHuong]

Originally posted by: idNut
I don't believe in stressing myself out over school which is why I didn't push myself in High School.

Then don't bother going to college if that statement above reflects your true mindset. I don't look down upon you because you're not going to a prestigious college, or because you didn't take AP Calc BC, etc like others here are, but I look down upon you because of your attitude. You expect to make big bucks without putting too much effort, or you expect to find a good job without any real qualifications (i.e. college degree) - very rarely will that happen. At least that's the way you come across. If you're looking for an easy way out, you'll only pay for it later at a crappy job you're forced to take to pay the rent. And at that time, you'll probably think stressing out and putting a little work into getting an education wasn't such a bad idea after all.

The easiest major in college is probably business or communications, but with your willingness to work hard in school, even you will find a hard time passing your classes. I really don't think you're ready for college...but I'm reluctant to tell you to go get a job because once you're making money (and you'll be only making a little bit), it'll be hard to go back to school. My advice is work hard at changing your attitude and go to community college, then college later when you're ready.

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: MindStorm

Originally posted by: idNut
I don't believe in stressing myself out over school which is why I didn't push myself in High School.

Then don't bother going to college if that statement above reflects your true mindset. I don't look down upon you because you're not going to a prestigious college, or because you didn't take AP Calc BC, etc like others here are, but I look down upon you because of your attitude. You expect to make big bucks without putting too much effort, or you expect to find a good job without any real qualifications (i.e. college degree) - very rarely will that happen. At least that's the way you come across. If you're looking for an easy way out, you'll only pay for it later at a crappy job you're forced to take to pay the rent. And at that time, you'll probably think stressing out and putting a little work into getting an education wasn't such a bad idea after all.

The easiest major in college is probably business or communications, but with your willingness to work hard in school, even you will find a hard time passing your classes. I really don't think you're ready for college...but I'm reluctant to tell you to go get a job because once you're making money (and you'll be only making a little bit), it'll be hard to go back to school. My advice is work hard at changing your attitude and go to community college, then college later when you're ready.

Alright, that was the nice way of putting it. I see what you mean and you're probably right but I have pressure from all angles that I don't know how to deal with which is why I'm thinking college. I think college would be a lot different from my HS life because I'm there by myself and a lot of the pressure is taken off. I dunno.

 

[wyvrn]

Liberal Arts is easier than business, imo.

Originally posted by: MindStorm

Originally posted by: idNut
I don't believe in stressing myself out over school which is why I didn't push myself in High School.

Then don't bother going to college if that statement above reflects your true mindset. I don't look down upon you because you're not going to a prestigious college, or because you didn't take AP Calc BC, etc like others here are, but I look down upon you because of your attitude. You expect to make big bucks without putting too much effort, or you expect to find a good job without any real qualifications (i.e. college degree) - very rarely will that happen. At least that's the way you come across. If you're looking for an easy way out, you'll only pay for it later at a crappy job you're forced to take to pay the rent. And at that time, you'll probably think stressing out and putting a little work into getting an education wasn't such a bad idea after all.

The easiest major in college is probably business or communications, but with your willingness to work hard in school, even you will find a hard time passing your classes. I really don't think you're ready for college...but I'm reluctant to tell you to go get a job because once you're making money (and you'll be only making a little bit), it'll be hard to go back to school. My advice is work hard at changing your attitude and go to community college, then college later when you're ready.

 

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
US Military. It's free. Really only requires a HS Diploma, and might just help out that attitude of yours.

US Marines: If you think you have what it takes to be one of the few and the proud, come see us.
Note: 99.9% need not apply*

*magazine ad 😉

Seriously though, ITT is a joke, IMO. It's a giant scheme for people stuck in a dead end, low paying job who want "an easy way out." The "high paying tech job" died out when the tech market crashed. Which is a good thing. Now we can separate the men from the boys in this industry. Those who came in just to make a quick buck are now unemployed and probably going into another industry.

ITT is making money off of the "there's a fool born every second" theory. So far, theyve been fairly successful at it, too.

 

[Regs]

I think college is easy. 4-5 days a week 1 class a day (3-4 hour lecture w/lab), pick evening or morning courses, long recesses, and of course the chance to meet new people.


I went to Chubb Tech. Institute thinking it was a easy way out. It's really not. Now with a Web Design Diploma from Chubb with a Associates Degree with Graphic Arts on my resume, it looks a whole lot better.

I went an easier way too. Went to community college (easy as fawk) for two years then I transfered for my Associates. Even though I only spent 2 years at Seton Hall Uv. , I got a four year Associates from them for half the price and work. Uncle Sam is taking care of the rest of the bill.

 

[habib89]

i would stay away from non-accredited schools like ITT... you pay way too much money.. learn one thing.. and end up with a certificate.. not even an AS/AA or a BS/BA... just this thing that says you can design websites.. i think it's sorta retarded... go to a community college.. i'm not really sure why you're so against it.. even if you don't want to do that, i think some state schools will accept you.. you have pretty good grades... i didn't see anything lower than a C except for chemistry... and since you dont' want to be a math or engineering major, math and science aren't really that important for getting into a liberal arts university... and if they have a problem with you not doing a foreign language or something, they'll usually let you take something in the summer either at their school or at a CC which will satisify the requirement and you're in a university in the fall....

moral of the story: don't give up on universities.. besides.. you won't know if you can make it or not without applying

 

[Tbirdkid]

I live in VA and here is my thoughts on the ITT thingy..
I graduated from ECPI College of Technology with a computer science associates degree. It cost me 14000 for that piece of paper. However.... when I graduated they helped me get a job in the semiconductor industry which pays alot of dough. I dont know if cc's have that ability but to me it was worth it to go there for just that reason. Also, the education is good... probably not the best in the world but good. Basically what the degree is going to do for you is tell the employers that you can learn and you can learn at an accellerated rate. That is all they want anyways because you are going to be taught their software, their hardware, their way of doing business. So you are going to have to learn new stuff anyways. Just a heads up if it costs more than 15k I would look into a different place... It just aint worth too much more than that.

 

[stev0]

itt < tech school < college