It's Time To Play The Association Game: Keating

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ
"Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

He's answered for it through an actual investigation. Much different story than Obama's relationship.

What exactly did Obama do wrong here?

Nothing. http://politicalticker.blogs.c...round-with-terrorists/

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

Whatever... the point is Obama didnt do anything wrong. His association with Ayers was working with the non-profit Chicago Annenberg Challenge on a huge school improvement project. Oh, how aweful - working to improve education.

NEXT!

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: loki8481
thank god the democrats are the party of talking about relevant issues..

Do all Republicans like you have no shame, after the Ayers nonsense? :roll:

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

If there was something to admit, I GAURUNTEEEE you CNN would break it.

Every media group is out for its own bottom line and that is $$$. Think about it for a second.

Who stands to win if an actual FACTUAL story about Ayers and Obama was uncovered?

answer: $$$$$$$$$$$ THE MEDIA GROUP THAT BROKE THE STORY.$$$$$$$$$$$

The fact that nothing is being reported means there is nothing to report. Why is that sooo hard for people to understand!?

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama
I'm not too sure this is a good idea. I hope they stick to the issues, because the second they move away from it they lose a big advantage they have right now, i.e. Republicans cannot stick to the issues cause their policies aren't very good for majority of the people.

McCain is a crook who has supported and been supported by other crooks who have cost the taxpayers billions. I'd say that's pretty relevant.

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

If there was something to admit, I GAURUNTEEEE you CNN would break it.

Every media group is out for its own bottom line and that is $$$. Think about it for a second.

Who stands to win if an actual FACTUAL story about Ayers and Obama was uncovered?

answer: $$$$$$$$$$$ THE MEDIA GROUP THAT BROKE THE STORY.$$$$$$$$$$$

The fact that nothing is being reported means there is nothing to report. Why is that sooo hard for people to understand!?

CNN can not make Obama admit what he knew about Ayers. That's the 10 million dollar question. What is so hard to understand about that?

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: newnameman
Obama must be really worried about his association with Bill Ayers getting explored if he's already bringing out this diversionary garbage.

There's nothing there with Ayers other than he once worked with him on education. McCain being in a scandal that involved investment banking hits closer to home with the current economic crisis. It's dirty politics but it's what wins elections. Though Obama is going to run away with this either way.

Obama did go to his house for a "meet the candidate" thing. My questions are:

1) Why would Obama go to a terrorist's house knowing it would have an impact on his electability for the rest of his life?

2) Why is Ayers stupid enough to associate himself with and sabotage a candidate?

3) Why hasn't Obama come out and said "I didn't know he was a terrorist" or something? He hasn't addressed the event at his house. He's letting himself be swiftboated just like Kerry did. Throwing accusations back the other way isn't going to debunk anything.

1) He was invited by the senator at the time, not by Ayers. By this point, the Weather Underground was dead and Ayers was a college professor. The current senator planned to announce Obama as his successor. Yeah, it's pretty fucking important that he go to that.

2) Ayers and Obama live in the same neighborhood. Their association is little more than that. They've served on the same education board and they share NONE of the same ideals. Why does it matter?

3) He has publicly denounced Ayers' actions. If he said that he didn't know he was a 'terrorist' then he'd be lying. However, their association is so insignificant as to not even matter. That's what's important here.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ
"Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

He's answered for it through an actual investigation. Much different story than Obama's relationship.

What exactly did Obama do wrong here?

Nothing. http://politicalticker.blogs.c...round-with-terrorists/

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

Based on all that you know about Obama today, do you think he would support Ayer's actions when Obama was 8 years old? That is what you're implying, right? Or are you implying that Obama should, upon finding out about Ayer's past, never have made further contacts with him? The latter thought is incredibly un-American and un-Christian. In fact, you can say the same thing about John McCain and his association with a racist:http://www.drudge.com/news/113...ls-around-anti-semites

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

If there was something to admit, I GAURUNTEEEE you CNN would break it.

Every media group is out for its own bottom line and that is $$$. Think about it for a second.

Who stands to win if an actual FACTUAL story about Ayers and Obama was uncovered?

answer: $$$$$$$$$$$ THE MEDIA GROUP THAT BROKE THE STORY.$$$$$$$$$$$

The fact that nothing is being reported means there is nothing to report. Why is that sooo hard for people to understand!?

CNN can not make Obama admit what he knew about Ayers. That's the 10 million dollar question. What is so hard to understand about that?

WTF is the big deal? I'm sure he knows what everybody else knows and he probably was made aware of it when he decided to run for President which is why he cut off all contact with the guy knowing full well that the Republican Slime Machine would try to make something out of it and he was right.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

If there was something to admit, I GAURUNTEEEE you CNN would break it.

Every media group is out for its own bottom line and that is $$$. Think about it for a second.

Who stands to win if an actual FACTUAL story about Ayers and Obama was uncovered?

answer: $$$$$$$$$$$ THE MEDIA GROUP THAT BROKE THE STORY.$$$$$$$$$$$

The fact that nothing is being reported means there is nothing to report. Why is that sooo hard for people to understand!?

CNN can not make Obama admit what he knew about Ayers. That's the 10 million dollar question. What is so hard to understand about that?

why not?

 

[Eeezee]

The Keating 5 scandal is far more relevant than Ayers. They aren't even in the same league. If Obama were actively bombing building (when he was 8) then they'd have something, but the Republicans are just grasping at straws.

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ
"Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

He's answered for it through an actual investigation. Much different story than Obama's relationship.

What exactly did Obama do wrong here?

Nothing. http://politicalticker.blogs.c...round-with-terrorists/

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

Based on all that you know about Obama today, do you think he would support Ayer's actions when Obama was 8 years old? That is what you're implying, right? Or are you implying that Obama should, upon finding out about Ayer's past, never have made further contacts with him? The latter thought is incredibly un-American and un-Christian. In fact, you can say the same thing about John McCain and his association with a racist:http://www.drudge.com/news/113...ls-around-anti-semites

I do not think he should support or associate with Ayers at all. It doesn't matter that Ayers did that shit when Obama was 8 years old...he still stands by what he did and thinks it was ok.

It shows Character, some people care about that believe it or not.

My biggest beef with all of this is actually non-political. I do not think Ayers should be a professor and am outraged that he became one. What would you say about someone who was an abortion clinic bomber who didn't actually kill anyone becoming a professor, all because at the trial there was prosecution technicalities and resulted in a miss trial?

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

If there was something to admit, I GAURUNTEEEE you CNN would break it.

Every media group is out for its own bottom line and that is $$$. Think about it for a second.

Who stands to win if an actual FACTUAL story about Ayers and Obama was uncovered?

answer: $$$$$$$$$$$ THE MEDIA GROUP THAT BROKE THE STORY.$$$$$$$$$$$

The fact that nothing is being reported means there is nothing to report. Why is that sooo hard for people to understand!?

CNN can not make Obama admit what he knew about Ayers. That's the 10 million dollar question. What is so hard to understand about that?

So your entire argument is that because Obama won't admit to a connection, there is a connection?

:laugh:

I think it's time to bring up the fact that McCain has personally given $10 million of his own money to Osama bin Laden and asked him to "blow up those ugly WTC towers." Hey, he won't admit to it and no one can seem to find any evidence, so obviously it's true.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ
"Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

He's answered for it through an actual investigation. Much different story than Obama's relationship.

What exactly did Obama do wrong here?

Nothing. http://politicalticker.blogs.c...round-with-terrorists/

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

Based on all that you know about Obama today, do you think he would support Ayer's actions when Obama was 8 years old? That is what you're implying, right? Or are you implying that Obama should, upon finding out about Ayer's past, never have made further contacts with him? The latter thought is incredibly un-American and un-Christian. In fact, you can say the same thing about John McCain and his association with a racist:http://www.drudge.com/news/113...ls-around-anti-semites

I do not think he should support or associate with Ayers at all. It doesn't matter that Ayers did that shit when Obama was 8 years old...he still stands by what he did and thinks it was ok.

It shows Character, some people care about that believe it or not.

My biggest beef with all of this is actually non-political. I do not think Ayers should be a professor and am outraged that he became one. What would you say about someone who was an abortion clinic bomber who didn't actually kill anyone becoming a professor, all because at the trial there was prosecution technicalities and resulted in a miss trial?

And John McCain's association with the racist?

 

[nageov3t]

if Obama won't not not admit that there's maybe a possible lack of connection or disconnection, it must be so.

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ
"Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

He's answered for it through an actual investigation. Much different story than Obama's relationship.

What exactly did Obama do wrong here?

Nothing. http://politicalticker.blogs.c...round-with-terrorists/

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

Based on all that you know about Obama today, do you think he would support Ayer's actions when Obama was 8 years old? That is what you're implying, right? Or are you implying that Obama should, upon finding out about Ayer's past, never have made further contacts with him? The latter thought is incredibly un-American and un-Christian. In fact, you can say the same thing about John McCain and his association with a racist:http://www.drudge.com/news/113...ls-around-anti-semites

I do not think he should support or associate with Ayers at all. It doesn't matter that Ayers did that shit when Obama was 8 years old...he still stands by what he did and thinks it was ok.

It shows Character, some people care about that believe it or not.

My biggest beef with all of this is actually non-political. I do not think Ayers should be a professor and am outraged that he became one. What would you say about someone who was an abortion clinic bomber who didn't actually kill anyone becoming a professor, all because at the trial there was prosecution technicalities and resulted in a miss trial?

And John McCain's association with the racist?

If there's something to it then yes, it would trouble me. The evidence you bring forward and connections are not enough to concern me however. I'm not just saying that to be some partisan hack either. There are no names named, only an organization named and they say it was a racist one. They do not provide any specifics of views held, personal histories of people on that board, nothing.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: newnameman
Obama must be really worried about his association with Bill Ayers getting explored if he's already bringing out this diversionary garbage.

There's nothing there with Ayers other than he once worked with him on education. McCain being in a scandal that involved investment banking hits closer to home with the current economic crisis. It's dirty politics but it's what wins elections. Though Obama is going to run away with this either way.

Obama did go to his house for a "meet the candidate" thing. My questions are:

1) Why would Obama go to a terrorist's house knowing it would have an impact on his electability for the rest of his life?

2) Why is Ayers stupid enough to associate himself with and sabotage a candidate?

3) Why hasn't Obama come out and said "I didn't know he was a terrorist" or something? He hasn't addressed the event at his house. He's letting himself be swiftboated just like Kerry did. Throwing accusations back the other way isn't going to debunk anything.

Shut up ... http://politicalticker.blogs.c...round-with-terrorists/

What does that have to do with what I said? The guy's group was considered a terrorist org by the FBI, and yet he hosts fundraisers and donates. Being on the same board and stuff like that is fine, because the candidate can deny knowing you. But why would he willingly put a politician in the position of having been in his house, and 6 years later say on the record that he has no regrets about setting bombs?

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

If there was something to admit, I GAURUNTEEEE you CNN would break it.

Every media group is out for its own bottom line and that is $$$. Think about it for a second.

Who stands to win if an actual FACTUAL story about Ayers and Obama was uncovered?

answer: $$$$$$$$$$$ THE MEDIA GROUP THAT BROKE THE STORY.$$$$$$$$$$$

The fact that nothing is being reported means there is nothing to report. Why is that sooo hard for people to understand!?

CNN can not make Obama admit what he knew about Ayers. That's the 10 million dollar question. What is so hard to understand about that?

So your entire argument is that because Obama won't admit to a connection, there is a connection?

:laugh:

I think it's time to bring up the fact that McCain has personally given $10 million of his own money to Osama bin Laden and asked him to "blow up those ugly WTC towers." Hey, he won't admit to it and no one can seem to find any evidence, so obviously it's true.

You're not following along here, and apparently not even trying to. I'm not interested in political points or jabs with this, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't play along.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Eeezee

So your entire argument is that because Obama won't admit to a connection, there is a connection?

:laugh:

I think it's time to bring up the fact that McCain has personally given $10 million of his own money to Osama bin Laden and asked him to "blow up those ugly WTC towers." Hey, he won't admit to it and no one can seem to find any evidence, so obviously it's true.

You're not following along here, and apparently not even trying to. I'm not interested in political points or jabs with this, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't play along.

so, by you not admitting that Eeezee is wrong...

means that he is right.

:laugh:

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Eeezee

So your entire argument is that because Obama won't admit to a connection, there is a connection?

:laugh:

I think it's time to bring up the fact that McCain has personally given $10 million of his own money to Osama bin Laden and asked him to "blow up those ugly WTC towers." Hey, he won't admit to it and no one can seem to find any evidence, so obviously it's true.

You're not following along here, and apparently not even trying to. I'm not interested in political points or jabs with this, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't play along.

so, by you not admitting that Eeezee is wrong...

means that he is right.

:laugh:

:laugh: Now that did make me laugh :thumbsup:

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ
"Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

He's answered for it through an actual investigation. Much different story than Obama's relationship.

What exactly did Obama do wrong here?

Nothing. http://politicalticker.blogs.c...round-with-terrorists/

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

Based on all that you know about Obama today, do you think he would support Ayer's actions when Obama was 8 years old? That is what you're implying, right? Or are you implying that Obama should, upon finding out about Ayer's past, never have made further contacts with him? The latter thought is incredibly un-American and un-Christian. In fact, you can say the same thing about John McCain and his association with a racist:http://www.drudge.com/news/113...ls-around-anti-semites

I do not think he should support or associate with Ayers at all. It doesn't matter that Ayers did that shit when Obama was 8 years old...he still stands by what he did and thinks it was ok.

It shows Character, some people care about that believe it or not.

My biggest beef with all of this is actually non-political. I do not think Ayers should be a professor and am outraged that he became one. What would you say about someone who was an abortion clinic bomber who didn't actually kill anyone becoming a professor, all because at the trial there was prosecution technicalities and resulted in a miss trial?

And John McCain's association with the racist?

If there's something to it then yes, it would trouble me. The evidence you bring forward and connections are not enough to concern me however. I'm not just saying that to be some partisan hack either. There are no names named, only an organization named and they say it was a racist one. They do not provide any specifics of views held, personal histories of people on that board, nothing.

Here's more

http://marcambinder.theatlanti..._raise_mccain_asso.php

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: TechAZ
"Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

He's answered for it through an actual investigation. Much different story than Obama's relationship.

What exactly did Obama do wrong here?

Nothing. http://politicalticker.blogs.c...round-with-terrorists/

Oh, CNN can do internet searches too. All the internet searches in the world will not tell us if he knew what Ayers was and his current views if nobody admits it.

Based on all that you know about Obama today, do you think he would support Ayer's actions when Obama was 8 years old? That is what you're implying, right? Or are you implying that Obama should, upon finding out about Ayer's past, never have made further contacts with him? The latter thought is incredibly un-American and un-Christian. In fact, you can say the same thing about John McCain and his association with a racist:http://www.drudge.com/news/113...ls-around-anti-semites

I do not think he should support or associate with Ayers at all. It doesn't matter that Ayers did that shit when Obama was 8 years old...he still stands by what he did and thinks it was ok.

It shows Character, some people care about that believe it or not.

My biggest beef with all of this is actually non-political. I do not think Ayers should be a professor and am outraged that he became one. What would you say about someone who was an abortion clinic bomber who didn't actually kill anyone becoming a professor, all because at the trial there was prosecution technicalities and resulted in a miss trial?

And John McCain's association with the racist?

If there's something to it then yes, it would trouble me. The evidence you bring forward and connections are not enough to concern me however. I'm not just saying that to be some partisan hack either. There are no names named, only an organization named and they say it was a racist one. They do not provide any specifics of views held, personal histories of people on that board, nothing.

Here's more

http://marcambinder.theatlanti..._raise_mccain_asso.php

Wow, not only that organization, but also a Southern Heritage guy??

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: Dari

Here's more

http://marcambinder.theatlanti..._raise_mccain_asso.php

With all due respect, that doesn't say anything at all Dari. We already knew about the Pastor that McCain "solicited and later rejected". A publisher of a Southern Heritage Magazine isn't exactly a damning association, unless that publication talked about lynching blacks or any type of racism.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Here's more

http://marcambinder.theatlanti..._raise_mccain_asso.php

With all due respect, that doesn't say anything at all Dari. We already knew about the Pastor that McCain "solicited and later rejected". A publisher of a Southern Heritage Magazine isn't exactly a damning association, unless that publication talked about lynching blacks or any type of racism.

Hey McCain and his family going on vacations with Charles Keating, a convicted felon and fraud, is more damning than any association that Obama a has .

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Here's more

http://marcambinder.theatlanti..._raise_mccain_asso.php

With all due respect, that doesn't say anything at all Dari. We already knew about the Pastor that McCain "solicited and later rejected". A publisher of a Southern Heritage Magazine isn't exactly a damning association, unless that publication talked about lynching blacks or any type of racism.

Hey McCain and his family going on vacations with Charles Keating, a convicted felon and fraud, is more damning than any association that Obama a has .

Of course it is. To you.

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: Dari

Here's more

http://marcambinder.theatlanti..._raise_mccain_asso.php

With all due respect, that doesn't say anything at all Dari. We already knew about the Pastor that McCain "solicited and later rejected". A publisher of a Southern Heritage Magazine isn't exactly a damning association, unless that publication talked about lynching blacks or any type of racism.

Hey McCain and his family going on vacations with Charles Keating, a convicted felon and fraud, is more damning than any association that Obama a has .

Links?