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I'd guess Gebhart. This has the smell of blue collar unions and "old style" politics.
-Robert
I'd guess Gebhart. This has the smell of blue collar unions and "old style" politics.
-Robert
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Hey - don't shoot the messenger - I'm just showing everyone the adI like the fact that Dean isn't a gun grabber...or wasn't allowed to in his state anyway. This thread was about the ad that some leftist "progressive" group put out to bash Dean. But yes, I have good things to say about Bush and I post them in the relevant threads...and then am promptly called a blind sheep.
Anyway, divert away...just don't bitch and whine to me...because I'm trying to get the information out now instead of when it's too late.
Hmmmm, that would apply to those you accuse of being Bush "Bashers." Hey, don't shoot the messengers on the other side of the DMZ either. We're just trying to get out the word about how much a disaster Bush is before the 2004 elections... It's clearly not our fault he's a miserable failure.
I didn't say Dean would be a miserable failure
Nor have I said that he would destroy the nation. so No, I'm not like the Bush bashers who rant on and on about conspiracies and so-called failures. This article takes one issue and states that Dean would be worse than Bush....according to a "progressive" group. Now since I happen to agree with them on this issue I will state why - but I did not go off on a wild tangent like a great many of the Bush bashers do. I will continue to point out things about all of the candidates, but to keep diverting things to Bush is silly. IF you really wanted something better than this so-called "miserable failure" named Bush - then you best pick wisely - lest you pick someone worse...just because you think he can winCkG
You know it is going to start up once again. There is a cardboard cutout of Bush holding a balloon at a local sams club. No one knew why it was there, but hey it had his devilsh grin. Bush didn't have any experience running the military, neither does Dean. I have singled both of them out of the list due to thier stance on the real issues. Dean supports special rights for same sex marriages, and Bush has proven himself totally inept and running the country. Maybe I should wright a letter and get money from Soros and run myself. I could run as a republican with liberal Schwartzenegger values. Easily championing most of the lemmings that vote straight republican in every election and receiving support for illegal aliens that can't vote anyway. I still think that the republican party would be better off cutting Bush out and putting forward someone else for the ticket. The next time I see Bush supporters picket on a local corner. I will get a supersoaker water cannon, fill it up with cat urine and let it fly.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
?Dean later told reporters that he is not a liberal. He cited his endorsement by the National Rifle Association eight times.?
-- Tulsa World, August 13, 2003
So not being a whacked out gun grabber makes you "not a liberal"
CkG
Voting for medicare welfare and presiding over the biggest expansion of Federal goverment in U.S. history makes you a conservative ?
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
?Dean later told reporters that he is not a liberal. He cited his endorsement by the National Rifle Association eight times.?
-- Tulsa World, August 13, 2003
So not being a whacked out gun grabber makes you "not a liberal"
CkG
Voting for medicare welfare and presiding over the biggest expansion of Federal goverment in U.S. history makes you a conservative ?
Bush isn't trying to say he isn't a Conservative - but Dean did try to say he wasn't a Liberal.
CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
?Dean later told reporters that he is not a liberal. He cited his endorsement by the National Rifle Association eight times.?
-- Tulsa World, August 13, 2003
So not being a whacked out gun grabber makes you "not a liberal"
CkG
Voting for medicare welfare and presiding over the biggest expansion of Federal goverment in U.S. history makes you a conservative ?
Bush isn't trying to say he isn't a Conservative - but Dean did try to say he wasn't a Liberal.
CkG
Well Dean could very well be one if we use Bush as a compass.
It should also be noted that the campaign will raise $550,000 from around 7,600 Deanies as a response to this ad.
Ah yes - the break the bat things.
Well that's nice and all but don't you think that it's just convienent way to say your money is going against something? Don't get me wrong it's a somewhat novel idea but sooner or later you are going to tap out those core resources. People like to react to damaging things by trying to show their support - it's a natural reaction and I'm sure Bush has raised his millions because of similar such reactions to him being blasted.CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Ah yes - the break the bat things.
CkG
Looking at the final numbers, the average donation for this fundraising drive was $71. I don't think that will tap out the core resources any time soon. Also, the whole goal of the Dean campaign is to get more and more individuals involved and thus get more money ($100 each from 2 million people). These little fundraising drives give people a reason to contribute, rather than just sending them a generic form letter asking for money. It doesn't cost the Dean campaign a dime more to hold these drives, because all the infrastructure is already paid for. Contrast this with the fact that Bush raises his money almost entirely from dinners. Of course the ultimate impetus is the fact that Bush wants to raise $200 million, and the Dean campaign is far from even coming close to that goal, while Bush is on a realistic track to meet it.
And for the record, I have no idea how much I've contributed to Dean. Somewhere between $50 and $100 I think.
Seems as though they have "pulled" the ad, although my link still gets to the file. However their "ads" page seems to mysteriously be under construction. Hmm...
http://www.progressivevalues.com/default.asp?ID=10
CkG
Gephardt, Kerry and Clinton staffers ARE the PAC "Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values "
which has attacked Dean primarily in Iowa ($400,000 spent there)
If gephardt doesn't get traction in Iowa, he's cooked.
president of "Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values" - former clinton campaign communication director,
treasurer - former Gephardt astaffer
spokesperson - former Kerry staffer
internecine warfare....
which has attacked Dean primarily in Iowa ($400,000 spent there)
If gephardt doesn't get traction in Iowa, he's cooked.
president of "Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values" - former clinton campaign communication director,
treasurer - former Gephardt astaffer
spokesperson - former Kerry staffer
internecine warfare....
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