Its the little things that remind me why I prefer OSX

[aphex]

Reformatted my system the other night, after getting OSX reinstalled I noticed something interesting and handy today.

As I went to print something, I noticed that Leopard had automatically found my network printer and set as my default printer without me even realizing that I had neglected to get it set back up after the reformat.

Made me smile, Thanks Apple!

 

[Kmax82]

Yup... There are a lot of just automated things in OS X that I really love. Plus, I've just gotten so used to OS X now, that I can't even look at Windows. I just want all my apps to have the beautiful Cocoa interface. :drool:

 

[timswim78]

True, but it's also the little things that make me curse OS X.
- No "Invert Selection"
- No right clicking to rename (how often do I end up opening files when I am trying to rename them)
- Lack of integrated FTP uploader in Finder
- No blowing up my windows to fill the screen

Didn't mean to hijack your thread. Just a little Apple venting that I needed to get off of my chest after some OS X frustration.

 

[Kmax82]

Yea.. I understand your frustrations. For me though:

- Never had a need for invert selection
- I prefer the hit "Return" to rename method that OS X uses. Since my hands are on the keyboard that way and it's just quicker.
- Does Windows have this now? I know you can view FTP, but I didn't think you could upload to FTP in Windows Explorer.
- This actually doesn't bother me anymore. I used to be annoyed with it, but I think it's just more of a preference with some programs.

Again, I do understand your issues though, and hopefully Apple will realize that in the future, it's best just to give the option, and let users decide.

 

[Nothinman]

- Does Windows have this now? I know you can view FTP, but I didn't think you could upload to FTP in Windows Explorer.

That's worked as long as I can remember, probably since IE4 seeing as how that's when explorer got IE integration.

Again, I do understand your issues though, and hopefully Apple will realize that in the future, it's best just to give the option, and let users decide.

That'll never happen, their whole strategy is built around conformity.

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Kmax82
Yup... There are a lot of just automated things in OS X that I really love. Plus, I've just gotten so used to OS X now, that I can't even look at Windows. I just want all my apps to have the beautiful Cocoa interface. :drool:

You can't look at windows?

 

[Kmax82]

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: Kmax82
Yup... There are a lot of just automated things in OS X that I really love. Plus, I've just gotten so used to OS X now, that I can't even look at Windows. I just want all my apps to have the beautiful Cocoa interface. :drool:

You can't look at windows?

Ugh.. wasn't being completely serious. Just giving into my OS X love for a bit.

Geesh..

And, I've always used FTP clients to handle my FTP... maybe I'm just a stickler for that, but I can't stand using Finder, or Windows Explorer to handle those type of tasks.

 

[Stiganator]

You know what pisses me off though, Matlab. It sucks HUUUUGE donkey balls on OS X. They need to write a native version, the X11 stuff is killing me.

Not an Apple issue, Mathworks needs to get on the ball.

 

[Tyranicus]

- No "Invert Selection"

What exactly do you mean by "Invert Selection"?

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: Stiganator
You know what pisses me off though, Matlab. It sucks HUUUUGE donkey balls on OS X. They need to write a native version, the X11 stuff is killing me.

Not an Apple issue, Mathworks needs to get on the ball.

I know exactly what you mean. Heck after a while, I just used Matlab in a VM, it was just easier.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Tyranicus

- No "Invert Selection"

What exactly do you mean by "Invert Selection"?

De-select whatever you have currently selected, and auto select everything else.

 

[Tyranicus]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Tyranicus

- No "Invert Selection"

What exactly do you mean by "Invert Selection"?

De-select whatever you have currently selected, and auto select everything else.

Is this feature in Windows? If so, i never noticed it.

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Kmax82

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: Kmax82
Yup... There are a lot of just automated things in OS X that I really love. Plus, I've just gotten so used to OS X now, that I can't even look at Windows. I just want all my apps to have the beautiful Cocoa interface. :drool:

You can't look at windows?

Ugh.. wasn't being completely serious. Just giving into my OS X love for a bit.

Geesh..

And, I've always used FTP clients to handle my FTP... maybe I'm just a stickler for that, but I can't stand using Finder, or Windows Explorer to handle those type of tasks.

Ha ....

 

[Zaap]

I really like Quick Look. That's one of the things that wows people the most when I show them OSX and they haven't really used it before. It saves me enormous amounts of time. Its one of those things I catch myself trying to use on other OS's, out of sheer habit.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

 

[TheStu]

Little things:
Quick Look
From one location in the OS, I can change almost any key shortcut
I can disable the Caps Lock key
Software Update
2 finger scrolling

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

Hmmm

I plugged an USB mouse before and I could use instantly???

I could turn off the touch pad on the acer laptop...

I can uninstall all programs easily too...

My Vista rig seems to snap out pretty quickly

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

Hmmm

I plugged an USB mouse before and I could use instantly???

I could turn off the touch pad on the acer laptop...

I can uninstall all programs easily too...

My Vista rig seems to snap out pretty quickly

Here is what I think he meant, based on my own personal experiences

You plug in the USB mouse, in Windows yes, you can more or less start using it immediately, but it still feels it necessary to pop up and let you know that it is installing the same default drivers that it installs for every USB mouse. And this must just be me since no one else I have spoken to has ever had this problem, but I have always noticed it, on every Windows system I have ever used... I have my USB mouse connected. I have to move my computer, so I end up accidentally plugging the mouse into a different USB port, so it reinstalls the drivers as if it had never, ever seen this device before.

OS X lets you disable the trackpad, not the MacBook (or iBook, or whatever). Based on what I have seen from other laptops that have similar functionality (Some HP laptops have a little button above the trackpad that you can press), is that it is some sort of vendor made application that allows you to do this, not the OS itself. And since this is a list of things about OS X...

The Programs and Features Control Panel item (previously known as Add/Remove Programs.. which was apparently too simple to keep) is quite good at what it does. SoundTheSurrender is referring to the fact that in OS X, you simply open up your Applications folder and delete the application. Not middle-man uninstaller needed usually. Some larger applications (Photoshop, iWork, Office, that sort of thing) do require it, and there are free apps that will do it for you (find all the miscellaneous files in the library that need to be deleted) I do sometimes wish that Apple would include something like that by default.

Well, vista did make life easier, no doubt about it, but most of us are used to Windows systems were if they are honest to god asleep, not just the screen, but the whole shebang, then it takes a few seconds, or more, for the OS to start responding correctly. In OS X, you tap a key, you open the lid, the screen lights up and it is ready to go.

 

[Kmax82]

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

Hmmm

I plugged an USB mouse before and I could use instantly???

I could turn off the touch pad on the acer laptop...

I can uninstall all programs easily too...

My Vista rig seems to snap out pretty quickly

You plug in the USB mouse, in Windows yes, you can more or less start using it immediately, but it still feels it necessary to pop up and let you know that it is installing the same default drivers that it installs for every USB mouse. And this must just be me since no one else I have spoken to has ever had this problem, but I have always noticed it, on every Windows system I have ever used... I have my USB mouse connected. I have to move my computer, so I end up accidentally plugging the mouse into a different USB port, so it reinstalls the drivers as if it had never, ever seen this device before.

I haven't noticed that in Vista, but I did have this happen in XP all the time. Never bothered me though.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

Hmmm

I plugged an USB mouse before and I could use instantly???

I could turn off the touch pad on the acer laptop...

I can uninstall all programs easily too...

My Vista rig seems to snap out pretty quickly

Here is what I think he meant, based on my own personal experiences

You plug in the USB mouse, in Windows yes, you can more or less start using it immediately, but it still feels it necessary to pop up and let you know that it is installing the same default drivers that it installs for every USB mouse. And this must just be me since no one else I have spoken to has ever had this problem, but I have always noticed it, on every Windows system I have ever used... I have my USB mouse connected. I have to move my computer, so I end up accidentally plugging the mouse into a different USB port, so it reinstalls the drivers as if it had never, ever seen this device before.

OS X lets you disable the trackpad, not the MacBook (or iBook, or whatever). Based on what I have seen from other laptops that have similar functionality (Some HP laptops have a little button above the trackpad that you can press), is that it is some sort of vendor made application that allows you to do this, not the OS itself. And since this is a list of things about OS X...

The Programs and Features Control Panel item (previously known as Add/Remove Programs.. which was apparently too simple to keep) is quite good at what it does. SoundTheSurrender is referring to the fact that in OS X, you simply open up your Applications folder and delete the application. Not middle-man uninstaller needed usually. Some larger applications (Photoshop, iWork, Office, that sort of thing) do require it, and there are free apps that will do it for you (find all the miscellaneous files in the library that need to be deleted) I do sometimes wish that Apple would include something like that by default.

Well, vista did make life easier, no doubt about it, but most of us are used to Windows systems were if they are honest to god asleep, not just the screen, but the whole shebang, then it takes a few seconds, or more, for the OS to start responding correctly. In OS X, you tap a key, you open the lid, the screen lights up and it is ready to go.

Yes you are exactly right on how I feel.

The uninstall feature in Vista is getting there but there is no application standards it seems.

Some apps have 3 separate instances relating to one app.

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: Kmax82

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

Hmmm

I plugged an USB mouse before and I could use instantly???

I could turn off the touch pad on the acer laptop...

I can uninstall all programs easily too...

My Vista rig seems to snap out pretty quickly

You plug in the USB mouse, in Windows yes, you can more or less start using it immediately, but it still feels it necessary to pop up and let you know that it is installing the same default drivers that it installs for every USB mouse. And this must just be me since no one else I have spoken to has ever had this problem, but I have always noticed it, on every Windows system I have ever used... I have my USB mouse connected. I have to move my computer, so I end up accidentally plugging the mouse into a different USB port, so it reinstalls the drivers as if it had never, ever seen this device before.

I haven't noticed that in Vista, but I did have this happen in XP all the time. Never bothered me though.

It really only bothers me now with my USB keyboard, which by the way, has my USB mouse plugged into it. So, if I accidentally plug it into the wrong USB port, I then cannot put my password into the system to log in until I move the USB cable from port to port to port until i find the port that it previously in. Very annoying since apparently XP could only install drivers once you had put in your password.

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

Hmmm

I plugged an USB mouse before and I could use instantly???

I could turn off the touch pad on the acer laptop...

I can uninstall all programs easily too...

My Vista rig seems to snap out pretty quickly

Here is what I think he meant, based on my own personal experiences

You plug in the USB mouse, in Windows yes, you can more or less start using it immediately, but it still feels it necessary to pop up and let you know that it is installing the same default drivers that it installs for every USB mouse. And this must just be me since no one else I have spoken to has ever had this problem, but I have always noticed it, on every Windows system I have ever used... I have my USB mouse connected. I have to move my computer, so I end up accidentally plugging the mouse into a different USB port, so it reinstalls the drivers as if it had never, ever seen this device before.

OS X lets you disable the trackpad, not the MacBook (or iBook, or whatever). Based on what I have seen from other laptops that have similar functionality (Some HP laptops have a little button above the trackpad that you can press), is that it is some sort of vendor made application that allows you to do this, not the OS itself. And since this is a list of things about OS X...

The Programs and Features Control Panel item (previously known as Add/Remove Programs.. which was apparently too simple to keep) is quite good at what it does. SoundTheSurrender is referring to the fact that in OS X, you simply open up your Applications folder and delete the application. Not middle-man uninstaller needed usually. Some larger applications (Photoshop, iWork, Office, that sort of thing) do require it, and there are free apps that will do it for you (find all the miscellaneous files in the library that need to be deleted) I do sometimes wish that Apple would include something like that by default.

Well, vista did make life easier, no doubt about it, but most of us are used to Windows systems were if they are honest to god asleep, not just the screen, but the whole shebang, then it takes a few seconds, or more, for the OS to start responding correctly. In OS X, you tap a key, you open the lid, the screen lights up and it is ready to go.

Yes you are exactly right on how I feel.

The uninstall feature in Vista is getting there but there is no application standards it seems.

Some apps have 3 separate instances relating to one app.

welcome to an open standard , for me its that my machine can encompass so many different components and devices, part of me running windows is due to the fact I like to choose components, I'd say thats half the joy, with my antec 12 case here, logitec G15 keyborad, quad core @ 3 Ghz, for me, as nice as OSX is - I see no reason to invest , last mac I had was a G5 - first and last, I only got it to broaden myself but Vm's are fine for that these days.

In support I can see some horror cases for both formats, it's nice we chat chat like this and not flame, a new age hay ?

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
Little things that make me love OS X

Plugging in a mouse just works without loading drivers.
You can turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in. (I like the integration in the OS)
Simple uninstallation of most programs
Getting my Macbook out of sleep is instant compared to Vista/XP
Time Machine

There's more but these are some of them.

Hmmm

I plugged an USB mouse before and I could use instantly???

I could turn off the touch pad on the acer laptop...

I can uninstall all programs easily too...

My Vista rig seems to snap out pretty quickly

Here is what I think he meant, based on my own personal experiences

You plug in the USB mouse, in Windows yes, you can more or less start using it immediately, but it still feels it necessary to pop up and let you know that it is installing the same default drivers that it installs for every USB mouse. And this must just be me since no one else I have spoken to has ever had this problem, but I have always noticed it, on every Windows system I have ever used... I have my USB mouse connected. I have to move my computer, so I end up accidentally plugging the mouse into a different USB port, so it reinstalls the drivers as if it had never, ever seen this device before.

OS X lets you disable the trackpad, not the MacBook (or iBook, or whatever). Based on what I have seen from other laptops that have similar functionality (Some HP laptops have a little button above the trackpad that you can press), is that it is some sort of vendor made application that allows you to do this, not the OS itself. And since this is a list of things about OS X...

The Programs and Features Control Panel item (previously known as Add/Remove Programs.. which was apparently too simple to keep) is quite good at what it does. SoundTheSurrender is referring to the fact that in OS X, you simply open up your Applications folder and delete the application. Not middle-man uninstaller needed usually. Some larger applications (Photoshop, iWork, Office, that sort of thing) do require it, and there are free apps that will do it for you (find all the miscellaneous files in the library that need to be deleted) I do sometimes wish that Apple would include something like that by default.

Well, vista did make life easier, no doubt about it, but most of us are used to Windows systems were if they are honest to god asleep, not just the screen, but the whole shebang, then it takes a few seconds, or more, for the OS to start responding correctly. In OS X, you tap a key, you open the lid, the screen lights up and it is ready to go.

Yes you are exactly right on how I feel.

The uninstall feature in Vista is getting there but there is no application standards it seems.

Some apps have 3 separate instances relating to one app.

welcome to an open standard , for me its that my machine can encompass so many different components and devices, part of me running windows is due to the fact I like to choose components, I'd say thats half the joy, with my antec 12 case here, logitec G15 keyborad, quad core @ 3 Ghz, for me, as nice as OSX is - I see no reason to invest , last mac I had was a G5 - first and last, I only got it to broaden myself but Vm's are fine for that these days.

In support I can see some horror cases for both formats, it's nice we chat chat like this and not flame, a new age hay ?

I've been in that stage before but then I just stopped caring about what's under the hood. In fact I've switched to laptops and I don't plan on using desktops anymore. Too much inconvenience imo.

 

[Nothinman]

I can uninstall all programs easily too...

With varying degrees of success, it's just the nature of trusting the developer to clean up after themselves.

And this must just be me since no one else I have spoken to has ever had this problem, but I have always noticed it, on every Windows system I have ever used... I have my USB mouse connected. I have to move my computer, so I end up accidentally plugging the mouse into a different USB port, so it reinstalls the drivers as if it had never, ever seen this device before.

Windows has always done that AFAIK. I have no idea why it keeps track of devices down to the port like that but it does it with PCI devices too.

OS X lets you disable the trackpad, not the MacBook (or iBook, or whatever). Based on what I have seen from other laptops that have similar functionality (Some HP laptops have a little button above the trackpad that you can press), is that it is some sort of vendor made application that allows you to do this, not the OS itself. And since this is a list of things about OS X...

Which is a bad analogy though, Apple wrote the trackpad drivers so it makes sense that they'd include a tool to disable the thing in the OS. Since Acer (or whoever manufacturered the trackpad in another laptop) wrote the drivers for it it makes sense that they'd include the tool to disable it too.

Some larger applications (Photoshop, iWork, Office, that sort of thing) do require it, and there are free apps that will do it for you (find all the miscellaneous files in the library that need to be deleted) I do sometimes wish that Apple would include something like that by default.

You mean some apps come with installers but no uninstallers on OS X? That's even worse than what Windows does.

The uninstall feature in Vista is getting there but there is no application standards it seems.

It seems that OS X doesn't have a standard either since I don't think "none" can be considered one.