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imported_Phil

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The Pentium Guy: let me tell you a little something about the Prescotts.
When we first got the engineering samples in at work (I work for a manufacturer), we tested them to destruction, and the same with the retail chips. They won't start to thermally throttle until around 92-95C (yes, Celcius), and shutdown temperature is around 115C - this is all tested using some expensive thermal monitoring gear, and a program that shows the relative "speed" (computational speed, that is) as a graph. At 94C with the 3.6Ghz chip, you could see the "speed" graph decreasing slowly as the chip throttled. No damage to it, even at 115C.

Don't worry about the 60C temperatures you're seeing - for most Prescott owners it's perfectly normal.

Relax! :beer: :)
 

The Pentium Guy

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I feel much better now :). Thanks a lot guys.
Sorry, I didn't mention my motherboard name: ASUS P4P800-e Deluxe. I'll go touch the heatsink and let you know if the mobo results are all right. WChou: I don't have onboard video.

I'll try to undervolt just a bit though - my room gets too hot to even BE in (I figured out a great idea: and I think it's working - I took the room fam (square) and I used it as an exhaust for my room (it fits right in the window), it's helping quite a bit! In the night, I use the room fan as an intake in the night, bringing the cold air in (in this case, my room becomes unbearably cold to be in.... but tha'ts OK :D I'm fine with that in the summer)).

Edit: Obsessive Compulsive disease kicked in - I forgot to close a parentheseese

Phil - last winter when a crapload of dust collected over my stock heatsink, my CPU went aorund 80C (175F) and started to throttle.... but hey I'm nowhere near that range, so I'm happy. Yep, I realize that I'm in the hole with the other prescott owners and their high temps.

I'll live with it.

Thanks for everything guys,
-The Pentium Guy
 

bluestrobe

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Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Yep. Dusted it all off. I only have a side intake and a rear exhaust (Plus a PSU exhaust) - should I try making my side intake an exhaust?


Equal in/out air is the key. Sucking too much air out will create a vacuum will work against heat loss in this case. I've actually ran vent tubing straight from the HS to the side case fan using equal 80mm fans for efficiency then ran the tubing to my window. The air moving out the tubing at the window was 95-100F so that?s how much heat that wasn't staying in my room. Maybe too drastic for your case.
 

FoxyProxy

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Prescotts do run very hot and were designed for this in mind.

The Phil guy is right on. Just because it seems hot to YOU, don't worry she can take the heat. Lot of people think if solid state things are too hot to touch they must be burning up. That just ain't true. Chill out (well at least you can lol) and USE the computer. :)
 

The Pentium Guy

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Oh shit! This is seriously not cool. I was watching a movie, and my prescott went to 62C or so. Keeping what you guys said in mind, I decided to let it go. Unfortuantely, the temperatures kept climbing until it got to 72C (!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

The processor started throttling, and I coudln't even get it to shut down (becuase it kept throttling so much, pausing for about 30 seconds). I hit the switch.
Some of you guys said that I should touch my heatsink to make sure my motherboard isn't lying. My heatsink is VERY HOT!

Need some help guys!
-The Pentium Guy



 

ssvegeta1010

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Man.... Maybe you need an XP-120... Your heatsink just doesnt seem to be dissipating enough heat. The heatsink is taking all it can, but if its hitting 72C, then you might need a bigger HS.
 

Maximilian

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Put the old heatsink back on if it works better. Maybe put some new thermal goo on it too.
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Oh shit! This is seriously not cool. I was watching a movie, and my prescott went to 62C or so. Keeping what you guys said in mind, I decided to let it go. Unfortuantely, the temperatures kept climbing until it got to 72C (!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

The processor started throttling, and I coudln't even get it to shut down (becuase it kept throttling so much, pausing for about 30 seconds). I hit the switch.
Some of you guys said that I should touch my heatsink to make sure my motherboard isn't lying. My heatsink is VERY HOT!

Need some help guys!
-The Pentium Guy

Hmm, it shouldn't be getting that high.
The 3.0Ghz chip should max out (in a regular ATX case with one exhaust and one intake fan) at around 65C load using the stock heatsink (your mileage may vary, of course, depending on the case and HSF used).

Remove that side intake and switch it to the front of the case, blowing inwards. See what that does.

The cases we use at work have side intakes, but they're only used for the Xeon workstations that we manufacture. The regular desktops (up to 3.4Ghz, we decided not to go with the 3.6Ghz chips if at all possible) just have a front intake and a rear exhaust.

Plus, the added benefit is that you help to keep your hard disks and assorted PCI cards cool ;)

Although it's not the tidiest build out there, here's mine. One front intake, dual exhausts, and that's it. Overall system temperature is 28C (ambient is about 21C at the moment).
 

The Pentium Guy

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Nice temps! Prescott or northwood though?

Originally posted by: Soviet
Put the old heatsink back on if it works better. Maybe put some new thermal goo on it too.
GREAT idea. While cleaning the dust off my heatsink, I remember getting some thermal compound on my hand when I took the heatsink off. Woah. I think it's very much possible that I screwed up the compound. I'll go to compUSA ASAP and gets ome Arctic Silver 5.

I'll give the front-fan thing a shot. The bezel is insanely hard to take off though. I remember trying this once. On my case it's just totally annoying.

-The Pentium Guy
 

wchou

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Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Oh shit! This is seriously not cool. I was watching a movie, and my prescott went to 62C or so. Keeping what you guys said in mind, I decided to let it go. Unfortuantely, the temperatures kept climbing until it got to 72C (!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

The processor started throttling, and I coudln't even get it to shut down (becuase it kept throttling so much, pausing for about 30 seconds). I hit the switch.
Some of you guys said that I should touch my heatsink to make sure my motherboard isn't lying. My heatsink is VERY HOT!

Need some help guys!
-The Pentium Guy
You do not need to touch the heatsink, my bad about that it's too much of a hassle. just feel the back of your rear case for excessive heat, the top of your case on top of your power supply? The side of your tower will do as well that are closest to your cpu and powersupply.




 

The Pentium Guy

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I think I have pretty bad ventilation. The top of my case is pretty damn hot :p. Anyways, since most of the stores will be closed today (Sunday), I'm going to CompUSA tomorrow and picking up a few fans + AS5.
 

wchou

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Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Nice temps! Prescott or northwood though?

Originally posted by: Soviet
Put the old heatsink back on if it works better. Maybe put some new thermal goo on it too.
GREAT idea. While cleaning the dust off my heatsink, I remember getting some thermal compound on my hand when I took the heatsink off. Woah. I think it's very much possible that I screwed up the compound. I'll go to compUSA ASAP and gets ome Arctic Silver 5.

I'll give the front-fan thing a shot. The bezel is insanely hard to take off though. I remember trying this once. On my case it's just totally annoying.

-The Pentium Guy
more fan is not good, the dust will accumulate faster on your hsf so you would need to clean it more often and the noise will be so high pitched that you cannot tolerate it. the trick is to drill holes on the side of your case and the 5 1/4 drives plastic plates that are sealed tight. This allows more ventilation into your case other then the few holes that are pre drilled on the side of the case.

If all else fails, move to the north pole. :D



 

UsandThem

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Originally posted by: wchou

more fan is not good, the dust will accumulate faster on your hsf so you would need to clean it more often and the noise will be so high pitched that you cannot tolerate it. the trick is to drill holes on the side of your case and the 5 1/4 drives plastic plates that are sealed tight. This allows more ventilation into your case other then the few holes that are pre drilled on the side of the case.

If all else fails, move to the north pole. :D

:confused:

1. More fans are good. With higher end CPU's it is good to:

a. Have a front intake fan

b. Have an exhaust fan

2. They do make very quiet fans that you can hardly (if at all) hear.

3. They do have fan filters that catch the dust.