Its Possible 20 DVD's on one CD-R, Just Read

bonkers325

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His representative calls him MacGuyver and even compares him to the often mis-understood astronomer Galileo. According to this Antwerp Newspaper a man claims he has developed a system of compression which makes it possible for him to write 20 DVD-movies on a single CD-ROM without any loss of quality. A translation of the article can be found in this forum thread. Discuss more AV news in our Audio/Visual forum

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"Man from Antwerp demonstrates code with unlimited possibilities

Twenty DVD-Movies on a single CD-ROM

His representative calls him MacGuyver and even compares him to the not-understood astronomer Galileo. Fact is that this inhabitant of Antwerp Guillaume Defosse developed a system -,, no, don't call it compression'' - which makes it possible for him to write 20 DVD-movies on a single CD-ROM to name one thing. All of this without loss of quality. ingenious! "first see, then believe", we thought.

By Marc Coppens - Antwerp

The name Defosse will probably not sound familiar to many people. Exceptions may be musiclovers, because Defosse composes Acid Techno music and his work is appreciated very much in the DJ-world. The 47-year old man from Antwerp is auto-didactic (sp?) and has been fascinated by computers for already 20 years.

Four years ago he wanted to put all his CD's on ONE cd. This turned out to be the beginning of DGS (Defosse Digital System). DGS is a digital language that makes it possible to process data, sound and video in such a way that it can be stored and send in a efficient way. Defosse showed us a few usages. We could not discover any fraud or attempts to deceive us by the demonstration of the following usages:

Unlimited Photo Zoom:

We start using a photograph of 3 by 3 centimeter. In a photocentrum (sp? /place specialized in working with photographs) it was impossible to zoom in 2000 times and maintaining an acceptable quality. Defosse however seems to be able to do this (without loss of quality!) Using his technique, a A3-color-printer, a scissor and tape. He resised a photo that we did bring along a few thousand times in just a few minutes time. The file is just 19 MB and Defosse even dares to say he can bring that back to about 500 KB.

20 DVD's on 1 CD-R:

Twenty DVD's can fit on a single CD-ROM. On a single CD-ROM it's possible to store about 650 MB of information. In some cases it can be a little more. One DVD can store from 4,7 to 8,5 GB. Defosse shows us a DVD-movie he shrunk to an unbelievable 30 MB. A quick calculation tells us that you could easily store 20 DVD's on a single CD-R.

Video and Audio on a single floppy:

A single floppy has a capacity of 1,44 MB. Normally it's not really possible to store a movie on it. Defosse however managed to save a movie of about 8 minutes (a report of the WTC-disaster) on a floppy. The sound ik ok; the video via Windows Media Player is acceptable. "Using a specific player (for my system) you'll get half an hour of TV full-screen on your floppy" he assures us.

According to his representative Jan Franck the interest in Defosse's invention has become very great. Audio- and movie-files of limited size offer enormous possibilities. "Especially regarding the transmission". Thanks to DGS it would become very easy to send video over UMTS (3rd generation mobile phones which become available in late 2002.

The photographs shows a photo enlarged 2000 times. On the left you see the perfect result of Guillaume Defosse. On the right side you see the result of a specialized company."

damn :Q
hope this new technology dont get killed or sued :|
 

Shalmanese

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why, oh why does this sound like pure BS?

He is claiming what? 120:1 lossless compression on already lossy compressed files?

This is all from a DJ who probably had no time to study any higher level maths and is working on it during his spare time.
 

XWolfsraider

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here it is in a nut shell:
THIS AIN'T LIPSINKING,

I downloaded the file in the thread 2x on 1 floppy, i checked 1 picture of a wolf = 64 kb,one 5 minute song =61 kb do the math a+B=125 kb.The same as it took approx. on files downloaded to my floppy.


It played 9.5 minutes of demo on 63 kb of floppy did i mention i downloaded to floppy twice and was disconnected from web by loading it on my girls computer (no modem or netwok there lol)and playing it
try it you will be amazed.....:D
 

Auric

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'demos', use computer generated audio & video so contain only the data which tells the PC how to construct them. Like video games do, or like MIDI does with music. Or you could compare it to Postscript, Java, and Flash.

Call me a skeptic but it just looks like hype to gain interest in what might be something really neato but not likely to live up to claims of compressing real film in a way that maintains anything close to DVD quality but 20x smaller.

Fishy poop.
 

S0me1X

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Hard to believe.

But it'd be nice to be able to download a 30MB high quality full anime episode ;-)
 

fow99

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How many of you guys have tried the .exe file? I don't have d3d8 installed on this machine so I can't try.
 

kazeakuma

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sounds like vapourware to me. There was a similar guy a few years back. Claimed similar rates of compression. Course he used a floppy
disk instead.
Weird
 

MikeO

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Let's say the VOB's of one 2 hour DVD movie takes about 6 gigabytes. 20 times 6 gig's makes 120 gig's.

This guy claims he can get 120 gigabytes to a one 700 megabyte CD, without loss of quality?

I smell BS.
 

m1ke101

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wow...have you guys seen the 64k video? it sure seems like a lot of video and sound to fit into a 64k file.....
 

LocutusX

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If it really is a demo (i.e. Phrozen Crew-style) then this really is a load of crap.

Can't access the link from where I am right now though...
 

Sugadaddy

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<< here it is in a nut shell:
THIS AIN'T LIPSINKING,

I downloaded the file in the thread 2x on 1 floppy, i checked 1 picture of a wolf = 64 kb,one 5 minute song =61 kb do the math a+B=125 kb.The same as it took approx. on files downloaded to my floppy.


It played 9.5 minutes of demo on 63 kb of floppy did i mention i downloaded to floppy twice and was disconnected from web by loading it on my girls computer (no modem or netwok there lol)and playing it
try it you will be amazed.....:D
>>




Try uninstalling DirectX 8... ;)
 

Jeff7

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Someone did the math there:

lets say 25 fps on a 2 hour movie.

25 x 2 hours or 7200 seconds = 180000 frames

30mb or 31457280 bytes divided by 180000 frames yields aprox 174.762667 BYTES per frame. Sure the diff in many frames are not much but GEE WIZ we are talking about no loss and does this include sound? Would that be a 80 or 90 minute cd? Or maybe it is one of the 500000 minute cd's.



Ain't NO WAY you are going to get even a full screen still image that is 175 bytes. I just created a 640x480 image, entirely blank, and saved it as a JPEG at maximum compression. The file was still 5KB. That article is a load of...well, you know. ;)
 

cdrsft

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If anyone here has studied computer algorithms or high level programming at a post-gradulate level, they can tell you with confidence that this is a physical impossibility, no ifs ands or buts.
 

XWolfsraider

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Try uninstalling DirectX 8...

Why? Are you saying this program embeded in direct x 8?
if so, how?

this does look like a demo but how would that make a difference?


please explain ,I want to learn why,all sides , this would be impossible,or what difference a demo would make?
Wolfsraider
 

Alex

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FAAAR to good to be true... id LOVE it to be true tho!!!

lets see what happens with it....
 

Phuz

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<< I don't know ... that's one hell of a video/demo for only 64 KB...... >>



Look around on the net, you'll find MORE IMPRESSIVE ones around the same size (less than 100kb)

It uses resources already on your machine, and its basically just on-the-fly processing.