It's painful to watch John McCain destroy a lifetime of credibility.

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It's too bad he couldn't have been the candidate in 2000. Now the Republicans are heavily despised by much of the American public, he's out of his league as far as being able to address the nation's daunting economic problems goes, and he's going to get run over by the Obama steamroller.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.

two week list:

http://www.loki-online.net/images/atp_t.jpg
 

LumbergTech

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I feel the same way, he was never my favorite person, but he stood up for some very important issues and i would have voted for him possibly sometime..but he has went back on almost everything he ever stood for..its really depressing..i think if he would have gone toe to toe with obama instead of running a smear campaign that he would have won..

he chose to lose by letting his campaign be run by the morality of people other than himself..

 

Farang

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.

two week list:

http://www.loki-online.net/images/atp_t.jpg

88 threads in 2 weeks, or 6.2 threads per day.

27 were useless (3 replies or less, or locked). 30.6% are useless threads.

Using the 5 page figure of 21.4% of threads posted by techs, we can
estimate that techs is responsible for 6.5% of useless threads on P&N.

Farang is 100% in need of a job.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.

two week list:

http://www.loki-online.net/images/atp_t.jpg
I don't whether to be impressed or worried that you have this on a separate web site...
 

seemingly random

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Oct 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.
That's interesting. Must have been a vacation or little news the third page. I'm really wandering about the top ten thread creators. Any guesses about who's in second place, etc?

What is the page size? Mine's set at 100.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.
That's interesting. Must have been a vacation or little news the third page. I'm really wandering about the top ten thread creators. Any guesses about who's in second place, etc?

What is the page size? Mine's set at 100.
Sorting by 'Originator' produced 1600-1700 threads - goes back ~6 weeks. Informally, techs is first, followed fairly closely by ProfJohn, and then jpeyton and PC Surgeon. Semi-interesting. It might be interesting to see the frequency of thread originators correlated to member join date.
 

boomerang

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About the 20th post from a full bore, no holds barred Obama supporter somberly stating how sad he is about McCain, his campaign, his ideals, attitudes, etc.

They're getting old. Your motives are as transparent as transparent can be. Saddest of all, I get the feeling that you think if you can win over every McCain supporter here Obama will have it in the bag.

You're not going to ensure Obama's victory here at the Forums. Most of the members here aren't even old enough to vote. On the plus side, we've only got to read this drivel for a few more weeks.

 

Robor

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: DrPizza
I haven't read too much about his life, but "He had a heroic life" - could someone explain? From what I could gather of his past, he should have been thrown out of the academy; was only there because of his father and grandfather. Would have been thrown out anyway if not for a lot of people intervening for him, was a womanizer, crashed a couple of times (which would have caused anyone else to have lost their wings), was aboard the Forrestal & involved (not his fault at all) in an accident that claimed over 100 of his shipmates lives, left the ship before those bodies were even recovered, apparently decided to do something so that his life wasn't a complete fuck-up - got shot down in the process, was tortured like all the other prisoners, was offered early release under special terms (like the other prisoners), but refused those terms (which would have led to a court-marshal), eventually was returned to the U.S., did a bit more womanizing while married - his wife had been in an accident while he was a prisoner, found a very rich woman to replace his wife with; had a marriage license for the new wife before his divorce was even final. Parlayed the rich wife's fortune into a successful political career.

Someone want to fill in the gaps that makes him special or "a hero"?

edit: I didn't mean for this to sound like a trolling post. I recognize that a lot of people look up to McCain as a respectable person. And perhaps he's been very respectable during his political career. In all sincerity, I really mean it when I request information on what makes him such a wonderful person.
This.

Make Believe Maverick
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: boomerang
About the 20th post from a full bore, no holds barred Obama supporter somberly stating how sad he is about McCain, his campaign, his ideals, attitudes, etc.

They're getting old. Your motives are as transparent as transparent can be. Saddest of all, I get the feeling that you think if you can win over every McCain supporter here Obama will have it in the bag.

You're not going to ensure Obama's victory here at the Forums. Most of the members here aren't even old enough to vote. On the plus side, we've only got to read this drivel for a few more weeks.
It's not particularly complicated. There's 10+ years of pent-up frustration from repug slime. It'll eventually recede.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.

two week list:

http://www.loki-online.net/images/atp_t.jpg

88 threads in 2 weeks, or 6.2 threads per day.

27 were useless (3 replies or less, or locked). 30.6% are useless threads.

Using the 5 page figure of 21.4% of threads posted by techs, we can
estimate that techs is responsible for 6.5% of useless threads on P&N.

Farang is 100% in need of a job.

I made my point in my first post there is nothing in anyones reply that would cause me to make another post.

btw TRY THE SEARCH BUTTON. NOT ONLY DO I POST FAR, FAR MORE OFTEN THAN JUST IN MY THREAD POST, IF I STARTED THE THREAD. BUT I ACTUALLY OFTEN WRITE PARAGRAPHS, AND PARAGRAPHS.

IN FACT I FOUND BY THE SEARCH BUTTON YOU ARE PARTICULARY GUILTY OF ONE SENTENCE OR VERY SHORT ANSWERS.

AND IF I JUST LOOKED AT THE FRONT PAGE. AND EVEN TAKING AWAY YOUR REPLIES MY THREADS SEEM TO GENERATE MANY REPLIES.

AND MOST INTERESTINGLY I AM NOT THE LAST ONE TO REPLY TO MY THREADS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. EITHER MY THREADS GENERATE REAL INTEREST WHICH IS WHY YOU KEEP SEEING THEM ON THE FRONT PAGE OR AS YOU CLAIM I ONLY START A THREAD AND RUN AWAY.

WHICH IS IT? YOU ARE CLAIMING TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE THINGS
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You don't seem to understand that the second McCain started running against Democrats he was doomed to having his reputation destroyed.

As long as he was running against Republicans as a 'maverick' the media loved him. But the second he started acting as a Democrats the media turned against him.

Look at Liberman, 8 years ago he was the Dem VP candidate, today he is an outcast.
His downfall started when going for the nomintion for 2008 he went back and sucked up to Jerry Fallwell. In 2000 he acurately labelled him as an agent of intolerance.

As a former McCain supporter, I can say that this was the beginning of the end of my support for him. At least I am not alone in that regard. I was flabberghasted.

moi aussi

When McCain started sucking up to the Fundies after the way he was treated in 2000 I lost a lot of respect for him.

When he supported the Bush tax cuts to run for President after he was opposed to them I lost even more respect.

McCain has become a pandering flip-flopper who will now do anything for political expediency. He has embraced the politics of destruction in the mold of Atwater/Rove.
 

techs

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Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.
That's interesting. Must have been a vacation or little news the third page. I'm really wandering about the top ten thread creators. Any guesses about who's in second place, etc?

What is the page size? Mine's set at 100.

thats because my threads tend to get a lot of responses. Seems when most of your threads have links to credble news stories that they are, well, news.

 
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You don't seem to understand that the second McCain started running against Democrats he was doomed to having his reputation destroyed.

As long as he was running against Republicans as a 'maverick' the media loved him. But the second he started acting as a Democrats the media turned against him.

Look at Liberman, 8 years ago he was the Dem VP candidate, today he is an outcast.
Guys, didn't you hear? The make believe librul media made McCain run ads accusing Obama of teaching sex to kindergarteners. So really, if McCain destroyed his reputation by running an incredibly sleazy campaign, it's all because the media made him. Oh, and Obama's partly to blame too for not doing those town hall debates. I mean after Obama refused them, McCain was honor bound to unabashedly smear him.

I knew the libruls were behind it, I just never knew how!
The sad part is I think PJ really believes it. Today's Republican party is a perverse caricature of its former self. It is no longer about conservatism and traditional American values. Instead, its focus is blame and outrage and self-pity. They prattle about accountability, yet problems are always someone else's fault, never the result of their own actions. They have most of the power and money, yet they are somehow always the oppressed victim. In many ways, McCain's self-destruction is a symptom of the disintegration of the GOP due to its own rot from within.

I'm with the OP. It's really sad to see how McCain has fallen. I supported him in 2000, but will never support him again. ProJo's delusions notwithstanding, this is due solely to McCain's deplorable actions and decisions over the last few months. It has nothing to do with anything said or done by Obama or the "librul" (/snicker) media. McCain simply wants the presidency too badly, and sold out almost everything he once stood for to try to get it.

It's unfortunately not just the Republican party. Both parties have become perverse versions of their previous selves. The Republicans ticket this year just is bad. People believe Obama is "The One", but he just capitalized on a great opertunity to get elected president. The Democrats have become just as perverse, but they managed to put forward a ticket that had a great speaker. He has charm and charisma, and is able to unify the people under a banner of "change".

Both parties have screwed up and changed for the worse. The Republicans put forward McCain who had a great image going into it. He made major mistakes in his run for election. He picked a VP that scares a lot of people. He ran a negative campaign. The Democrats put forward a great public speaker who is able to rally the people to his beliefs. He didn't make too many mistakes running his campaign. He ran more ads that were "positive", and let McCain shoot himself. Obama doesn't have to work very hard to "win" this election, because McCain/Palin are just killing their own campaign.
 

techs

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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081103/kim/print

In case you haven't heard, there's a guy running for president named Barack Hussein Osama Nobama. This Nobama was born outside America and secretly schooled in Islamic terrorism at a Wahhabi madrassa. He then moved to the United States to take up the radical '60s teachings of the Weather Underground's Bill Ayers, while also organizing for ACORN, a subprime-lending, voter fraud-committing collective of affirmative-action welfare queens. All this happened before he became an elitist celebrity advocate of socialism, infanticide, the sexual abuse of children and treason.


Suffice it to say, this caricature stretches even the limits of comic imagination. The real Obama's Christianity, his patriotism, moderation and commitment to capitalism, law and order, and national security are matters of abundant public record--some of which displeases the left wing of his party. But this is of little import to the Republican rank and file. For them, the fallaciousness of the whole counts for less than the suggestive appeal of the parts. All John McCain, Sarah Palin and their surrogates need to do is raise the insidious question--"Who is the real Barack Obama?"--and the zealots conjure the rest, along with cries of "Treason!" "Kill him!" and "Off with his head!" The virulence of such rhetoric makes even Palin seem thoughtful; she at least inserts whole verb phrases like "palling around with" in between nouns like "Barack Obama" and "terrorists."

Such scenes are alarming not only because of the McCain campaign's willingness to stoke such murderous mania but also because of its apparent inability to control the madness once it has been unleashed. At more than one rally, McCain has been booed by the audience for attempting to interrupt panicked rants about the impending socialist or terrorist takeover of America. The crowd's immediate anger is directed not at Obama and the Democrats but at their own party's standard-bearers, who should be "representing us" but have so far refused to "take the gloves off" and "take it to Obama" and "hit him" in "a soft spot." If the GOP leaders don't give these folks what they want, they had best watch their own soft spots, for there is no shortage of backbenchers ready to seize the helm. Take Jeffrey Frederick, the 33-year-old chair of the Virginia Republican Party, who said that Obama and Osama bin Laden "both have friends that bombed the Pentagon." Denounced by the McCain campaign, Frederick has defiantly refused to apologize for his remark.

Perhaps he knows which way the wind blows: the Republican Party's electoral strategy of sowing resentment and fear--sprung from Nixon and nurtured by admen like Lee Atwater, Floyd Brown and the Swiftboaters--has finally taken on a life of its own. It thrives as a postmodern pastiche of conservative hate speech that no longer requires a master--a Frankenstein monster freed from his creator. What holds this beast together is not the fear and loathing of any particular despised identity so much as the idea that America is under siege, disordered, on the cusp of imminent and total collapse, threatened by terrorists abroad and undermined by enemies at home.

 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: boomerang
About the 20th post from a full bore, no holds barred Obama supporter somberly stating how sad he is about McCain, his campaign, his ideals, attitudes, etc.

They're getting old. Your motives are as transparent as transparent can be. Saddest of all, I get the feeling that you think if you can win over every McCain supporter here Obama will have it in the bag.

You're not going to ensure Obama's victory here at the Forums. Most of the members here aren't even old enough to vote. On the plus side, we've only got to read this drivel for a few more weeks.

 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.

two week list:

http://www.loki-online.net/images/atp_t.jpg

88 threads in 2 weeks, or 6.2 threads per day.

27 were useless (3 replies or less, or locked). 30.6% are useless threads.

Using the 5 page figure of 21.4% of threads posted by techs, we can
estimate that techs is responsible for 6.5% of useless threads on P&N.

Farang is 100% in need of a job.

I made my point in my first post there is nothing in anyones reply that would cause me to make another post.

btw TRY THE SEARCH BUTTON. NOT ONLY DO I POST FAR, FAR MORE OFTEN THAN JUST IN MY THREAD POST, IF I STARTED THE THREAD. BUT I ACTUALLY OFTEN WRITE PARAGRAPHS, AND PARAGRAPHS.

IN FACT I FOUND BY THE SEARCH BUTTON YOU ARE PARTICULARY GUILTY OF ONE SENTENCE OR VERY SHORT ANSWERS.

AND IF I JUST LOOKED AT THE FRONT PAGE. AND EVEN TAKING AWAY YOUR REPLIES MY THREADS SEEM TO GENERATE MANY REPLIES.

AND MOST INTERESTINGLY I AM NOT THE LAST ONE TO REPLY TO MY THREADS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. EITHER MY THREADS GENERATE REAL INTEREST WHICH IS WHY YOU KEEP SEEING THEM ON THE FRONT PAGE OR AS YOU CLAIM I ONLY START A THREAD AND RUN AWAY.

WHICH IS IT? YOU ARE CLAIMING TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE THINGS

Guys, he said it in all caps. Let's leave the guy alone.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Farang
Current check: 22.2% of first page threads are techs
It would be interesting to see a weekly, monthly, yearly top ten list.

First five pages are 22%, 20%, 5%, 35%, and 25%, respectively. He has posted 21.4% of threads on the first five pages. It is really out of hand, especially ones like this where he just says a few lines of commentary that could be added to another thread.
That's interesting. Must have been a vacation or little news the third page. I'm really wandering about the top ten thread creators. Any guesses about who's in second place, etc?

What is the page size? Mine's set at 100.

thats because my threads tend to get a lot of responses. Seems when most of your threads have links to credble news stories that they are, well, news.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that you quit posting altogether - maybe a little more selective is all. There are others who create quite a lot of threads...