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UglyCasanova

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OMG they lost their jobs to automation not outsourcing. Minerals and energy in this country produce more than ever, with less workers. The same thing is true with the auto industry, Ford and GM make more cars and trucks inside the US than ever, with less workers
Is Trump going to get rid of the robots too?


But you can't earn a living with two kids and send them to college and a mortgage if robots do the job..? Thank god the stupid idea of $15 min wage was just squashed. States are free to pass them and watch their jobs bleed off.
 
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While this is scary - and it will hurt my 401k... It's only temporary. Another 4 years will come and go. However, I really should have planned for this and shoved all my funds into cash :[

At the end of the day the stock market will recover eventually - mostly because the market is the one that makes the demands, not the president. Also, if the stock market never recovers, I will have a lot more important things to worry about in life than retirement.
 

Starbuck1975

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Trump says he's bringing back those jobs so you know it will happen.
You have one candidate promising you jobs with no plan to create them. You have another candidate calling you deplorable. It's obvious what is happening.
 
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While this is scary - and it will hurt my 401k... It's only temporary. Another 4 years will come and go. However, I really should have planned for this and shoved all my funds into cash :[

At the end of the day the stock market will recover eventually - mostly because the market is the one that makes the demands, not the president. Also, if the stock market never recovers, I will have a lot more important things to worry about in life than retirement.
I was surprised how many people I liquidated to full cash today. They will feel much better about that decision in the morning if this keeps up.
 
Nov 8, 2012
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OMG they lost their jobs to automation not outsourcing. Minerals and energy in this country produce more than ever, with less workers. The same thing is true with the auto industry, Ford and GM make more cars and trucks inside the US than ever, with less workers
Is Trump going to get rid of the robots too?

[Citation Needed]

Can you show me a source on that? Last I recall all the automakers were making the vehicles out of plants in Mexico... like... all of them.

It's not to say they don't have any industrialization in the states, but their main product is produced out of Mexico.
 

HamburgerBoy

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[Citation Needed]

Can you show me a source on that? Last I recall all the automakers were making the vehicles out of plants in Mexico... like... all of them.

It's not to say they don't have any industrialization in the states, but their main product is produced out of Mexico.

Pretty sure Toyota and Nissan do a lot of manufacturing in the South.
 

Svnla

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Damn, every news source is saying Trump is more than likely to win than Hillary.

So the Wall, then prosecutor to go after Hillary, then repeal and replace Obamacare...what else do I miss about the big ticket items for Trump?
 

alcoholbob

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Wall Street did not let Americans feel the benefit of "free trade".
The response is to burn it down.

Free trade is bullshit, because it's a bullshit moniker and not actual free trade. It's simultaenously outsourcing your working class jobs to the 3rd world and protecting big IP (intellectual property) owners, increasing profits of big IP owners in the tech industry and Hollywood. In other words it's effectively a government run redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich. If you want real free trade, why do these free trade deals all involve extremely strong IP protections? It's basically socialism for the big corporations and open borders free market for the working class.
 

UglyCasanova

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Yes of course they want to work..and let me assure you MOST unemployed would love to work. (Some lazy fucks/freeloaders dont make a majority). But these people in PA etc. won't ever work in coal mines or steel mills...this is absurd. Where should this work coming from?? Tell us! You can't revive industries that are dead for 70+ years.


I agree. ;)
 

brycejones

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[Citation Needed]

Can you show me a source on that? Last I recall all the automakers were making the vehicles out of plants in Mexico... like... all of them.

It's not to say they don't have any industrialization in the states, but their main product is produced out of Mexico.

You recall very poorly. I live in a city with two very large plants one GM, one Ford each turning out hundreds of thousands of vehicles per year.
 

HamburgerBoy

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The differential isn't that huge.

You mean comparing the wage/standard-of-living gap of one country to another? Possibly, but the end result is that it's too fucking expensive here to do business. I wouldn't mind of Trump cuts back regulations to an extent, realistically it's the only hope he has of bringing jobs back (along with addressing corporate tax loopholes), but it's questionable that we can do it and reach China's level, without pissing people off (aka pollution and longer work hours).