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Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: SampSon
There are other causes for obesity than just an unhealthy lifestyle.

I find it funny how you moral warriors jump all over this.
Got any percentages on how many people live healthy lifestyles and weigh 400+ lbs? Serious question. Every time the issue of obesity comes up, the issue of "glands" or "big bones" comes up with it, but I really have to wonder how many of these people become morbidly obese while eating 2500 calories/day and getting a little exercise.
No I don't have numbers. Any numbers out there will only be taken from a small pool of data, so they don't really prove anything.

If you are 400+ lbs you can't really live a healthy lifestyle. If you had a thyroid problem, you wouldn't be healthy in the first place, negating the ability to lead a "healthy" lifestyle.
The vast majority of obese people are just gluttonous slobs, so I don't disagree.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I think it's laughable that I have to pay tax money that goes to Medicare which happens to cover fat people while also shelling out ~$40 per month for my gym membership.

HMMMMM, maybe the government should pay for my gym membership since I'm avoiding becoming fat by going there? Then again, rewarding proactive behavior might have a negative effect on something.

$40/mo ? that sucks ... I got a killer deal at Bally's. I pay $108 for the entire YEAR, thats about 9$/mo :p

But keep in mind, yes I am very aware that bally's is an AWFUL gym, but for that price I will deal with it. I also rarely go at peak hours when its so crowded.
 

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Also, once a person becomes that heavy it can be physically impossible for them to excercise due to bad circulation or bad joints.

Something needs to be done to help prevent people from getting there, but something also needs to be done to help those that are already there.
 

Amused

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You know, no matter how hard I tried, I could never get to 400 lbs. So there ARE some genetic factors at play, here.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Also, once a person becomes that heavy it can be physically impossible for them to excercise due to bad circulation or bad joints.

Something needs to be done to help prevent people from getting there, but something also needs to be done to help those that are already there.

that is true, but in order to get to that initial weight you are stating, you must be a lazy person who does no exercise and no healthy eating. Yea I feel sorry when I look at obese people and how hard it is for them, but then I don't feel bad at all because it is their fault. Even if its genetics, its their fault! If I knew my parents were obese, I would start eating healthy when i'm young in order to prevent myself from getting this way. A prime example is my step-mom. She is the ONLY one in her family who is under 300lbs, and she is around 120. So even if its genetic, you can always do something before its too late.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: FaustoIt's official: Obesity is now an "illness".
Topic Summary: So sayeth Tommy Thompson, secretary of Health and Human Services.

It's official: the US Federal Government got a little dumber today. Exhibit A is right above this post...

Exhibit B is the fact that they are still employing Fausto ;) .
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: FaustoIt's official: Obesity is now an "illness".
Topic Summary: So sayeth Tommy Thompson, secretary of Health and Human Services.

It's official: the US Federal Government got a little dumber today. Exhibit A is right above this post...

Exhibit B is the fact that they are still employing Fausto ;) .
Blame the quotas: they have to hire a certain number of thong-clad treehugging geeks each year. :p
 

Ranger X

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Pay me and I'll help these tub of goos to lose weight. I'll shock them every time they reach into the cabinet for a twinkie.
 
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What next? People who can't control their alcohol/drug/nicotine/internet usage, will be classified as having a disease. Where do I sign up?

SC
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Who was that republican on Charlie Rose yesterday saying the growth of medicare, along with long term taxcuts and social security was going to bankrupt the country?
I have no idea but he sounds like a smart man.
Originally posted by: Amused
You know, no matter how hard I tried, I could never get to 400 lbs. So there ARE some genetic factors at play, here.
Not so, Amused. You just didn't try hard enough. It requires a pure abandonment of self-control and self-love. Genetic factors aside, it is not a disease. Everyone is predisposed to some health factor or another from birth, it just means you need to live your life and take care of yourself accordingly.
 

JSang

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Also, once a person becomes that heavy it can be physically impossible for them to excercise due to bad circulation or bad joints.

Something needs to be done to help prevent people from getting there, but something also needs to be done to help those that are already there.

i may be mistaken but a gastric bypass just forces the body to take in less food right?
so why not JUST EAT LESS