It's Obama's presidency, but Bush's world

[boomerang]

The same with the unemployment figures. The numbers for what is being claimed simply do not add up correctly.

It's right in line with "It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes". When things are bad, change the way you present the information. Change the way you count deportations, change the way you measure inflation, change the way you measure unemployment, etc. These are deceptive practices. And those that were aware when the changes were made understand that the deception was willful and purposeful. Everyone afterwards accepts those reformed indicators as truth.

In two generations you can change an entire nation. The effect is enhanced when you teach the young ones that the older folks are racists and bigots that just don't understand. They are then marginalized and ignored. What is it we hear so many times today - "old white men". The transformation has already occurred. How many cultures teach their young people that with age comes wisdom? Certainly not the culture active within the borders of the U.S.

As I've said many times before, we have a ringside seat for one of the biggest downfalls of a nation this world has yet seen. Hold on because it's going to be one bumpy ride.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Despite my clearly stated opinions of Bush do we really need to keep stating the obvious?

Why don't you start threads touting all the meaningful things Obama has done (and there are plenty, despite what hacks might think) instead of feeling the need to play the political gotcha game.

Remember some people decided Obama was a bad president the day he took office; these types of articles won't change their minds. Same for Bush.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Obama can do no right. It's interesting how his critics bash him, no matter what he does.

Obama shoots a home invader: HE IS A MURDERER!!!!
Obama calls the cops on the home invader: HE IS A WEAKLING!!

 

[glenn1]

Obama can do no right. It's interesting how his critics bash him, no matter what he does.

Obama shoots a home invader: HE IS A MURDERER!!!!
Obama calls the cops on the home invader: HE IS A WEAKLING!!

I'm pretty sure the OP isn't a critic of Obama, so ask him why he posted something which basically states that the president is ineffectual.

 

[boomerang]

Obama can do no right. It's interesting how his critics bash him, no matter what he does.

Obama shoots a home invader: HE IS A MURDERER!!!!
Obama calls the cops on the home invader: HE IS A WEAKLING!!

Right on brother! How did we get from Bush could do no wrong to Obama can do no right?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

The BDS folks are now complaining about Obama critics? Too funny!

 

[Cozarkian]

It's hard to think of any second-term president in the past century, at least, who's been so completely consumed by issues he inherited.

Granted, I wasn't alive, but on a hunch, I would guess Truman was pretty preoccupied during his second term with the events that occurred during Roosevelt's.

 

[senseamp]

Moderates = cozy up to corporations. At least we agree on something.

The center of this country is bought and paid for. What we need is a new center, consisting of extreme Left and Right.

There should be one party that is bought and paid for by the business community. That has traditionally been the Republican party. Business community interests should be represented in Washington. The problem is when both parties are bought and paid for, then ONLY the business community's interests are represented.

 

[Genx87]

There should be one party that is bought and paid for by the business community. That has traditionally been the Republican party. Business community interests should be represented in Washington. The problem is when both parties are bought and paid for, then ONLY the business community's interests are represented.

Both parties have been bought and paid for since the dawn of time. To believe one party is for the middle class is rather naive. Ask yourself this. Why is it that wealth inequity skyrockets during democrat presidents? Why is it govt skyrockets during republican presidents?

Perhaps both parties have successfully sold the peasants a story about their platform when reality is far from it.

 

[Cozarkian]

@OP

When you are going to massively edit an article to try to make a point, you should use ellipses, "...", to show where you cut parts out.

For example, you cut out this section of the article, which has some damaging language to your attempted rebuttal:

You'd have a hard time arguing that Obama didn't underestimate or mishandle a lot of the challenges that have shaped his presidency. His economic policies may well have averted the worst-case scenario, which seemed very real and very scary in 2009, but it's also clear that the administration managed to do very little to change the long-term trajectories in housing and education, where rising costs are changing what it means to be middle class.

It was nice to talk about rebuilding America's tarnished image in the world, and when Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 for no other reason than having succeeded Bush, it seemed imminently achievable. But whatever moral standing Obama had to work with was probably squandered by his own inconstancy in foreign crises and revelations that he has expanded America's spying apparatus around the world, rather than reining it in.

Oh, and earlier there was this gem:

Now he's resorted to exactly the same type of governing by executive fiat for which Democrats assailed Bush.

In fact the content of the article doesn't really support its title. The conclusion seems to be that this is neither Obama's nor Bush's world. It's merely a new world that they both failed to handle effectively.

 

[soundforbjt]

so how long is the next Republican allowed to blame Obama? 10 years straight?

LOL, they are still blaming Clinton...

 

[Cozarkian]

There should be one party that is bought and paid for by the business community. That has traditionally been the Republican party.

Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. I think the dividing line has always been which industry they cater to. Republicans are controlled by "big business," e.g. large developers, oil, pharmaceuticals, insurance, and the financial industry. Democrats are controlled by the entertainment industry, education, and plaintiffs' attorneys.

 

[Jaskalas]

There should be one party that is bought and paid for by the business community. That has traditionally been the Republican party. Business community interests should be represented in Washington. The problem is when both parties are bought and paid for, then ONLY the business community's interests are represented.

We both appear to want to be in a party representing the people against their corporate government. There's a lot of potential to defeat them if Left and Right can see the problem in their parties and learn to cooperate for common interests.

As I called it, a new center. One that is not located in Wall-Street.

 

[CPA]

Bush and his oil thugs, right Dave?

 

[werepossum]

It's like the first two years of Obama's presidency didn't exist. You know where he had super majority status in the house and 1 seat away from it in the senate? Majorities no president has had for decades.

This, indeed.

All hail President George Walker Bush, who not only recreated the world in His image but immutably fixed it in time and space. All pity President Barack Hussein Obama, who is eternally a powerless victim of Bush.

 

[dmcowen674]

hey dave still have your motorcycle?

We should go for a ride in brown county sometime some nice roads down there.

I sure do.

Buzz me anytime. Other than a Motorcycle ride with Jeff Saturday ( I had not seen him in 15 years when I was the DJ for his wedding in Georgia) I have not ridden the bike much yet this year.

Did ride it to work today.

 

[soundforbjt]

It's like the first two years of Obama's presidency didn't exist. You know where he had super majority status in the house and 1 seat away from it in the senate? Majorities no president has had for decades.

You forget, that's when the repubs starting abusing the filibuster.