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CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it but it doesn't change the fact that you tried to lessen the bombings by Ayers with falsehoods.


Aww... having issues today?
 

shadow9d9

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ohnoes
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder if these supposed bombers were "respected" members of the community and had done it "years ago" if they should be called terrorists...

I don't know, did they become a preeminent source on education reform & a professor?

Probably not but is being a professor absolve one from being a terrorist? What is the standard for absolution since there seems to be one for Ayers?

I dare to quote a SINGLE person here that has EVER said that Ayers was not a terrorist at one point.

You shouldn't have a problem because you seem to think it is quite common...

Now go away with your fear and smear nonsense.
 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it but it doesn't change the fact that you tried to lessen the bombings by Ayers with falsehoods.


Aww... having issues today?
Besides Palin being an Air head unqualified for the post she's running for? No.

BTW, many of the Right say she's the future of the Republican Party..:roll:
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
1
76
www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ohnoes
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder if these supposed bombers were "respected" members of the community and had done it "years ago" if they should be called terrorists...

I don't know, did they become a preeminent source on education reform & a professor?

Probably not but is being a professor absolve one from being a terrorist? What is the standard for absolution since there seems to be one for Ayers?

I dare to quote a SINGLE person here that has EVER said that Ayers was not a terrorist at one point.

You shouldn't have a problem because you seem to think it is quite common...

Now go away with your fear and smear nonsense.

I didn't make that sort of claim so I'm not sure why you'd want me to find some quote to prove something...

 

dphantom

Diamond Member
Jan 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

If you actually read anything in that thread, you would see I made a post later on that indicated it may be false and then earlier today changed the title. At any rate, I was posting only what a reputable, recognized news source was reporting.

I am being honest, how about you??
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
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www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it but it doesn't change the fact that you tried to lessen the bombings by Ayers with falsehoods.


Aww... having issues today?
Besides Palin being an Air head unqualified for the post she's running for? No.

BTW, many of the Right say she's the future of the Republican Party..:roll:

I wasn't asking you if you had issues. I already know you do based on... well... nevermind...;)

I was asking hhbb if he was having issues today because he was flipping me off over the web by holding his finger up to his monitor... :laugh:
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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I'm personally framed Ayers more like a bomb-using vandal than a terrorist. I'm not sure precisely what his intent was, but it seemed similar to taking bats and hammers to, say, an opposition party's offices than going there with the intent of actually killing them.

I define terrorist as somebody who wants to specifically spread fear to save their agenda. It would be fearful working somewhere where your walls may be blown in but it's not a terribly precise term.

Anyway, if Palin thinks ayers is a terrorist, definitely an abortion clinic bomber is.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it but it doesn't change the fact that you tried to lessen the bombings by Ayers with falsehoods.

You want to play games with words? Ayers never planted a bomb that killed anyone. Should I accuse you of lying?

You're trying to distract from the issue. Palin thinks Ayers is a terrorist even though HE didn't kill anyone. She thinks abortion clinic bombers who actually DO kill people are not terrorists.

There is no rationale for this distinction other than that she personally feels blowing up abortion clinics isn't terrorism.
 

shadow9d9

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it but it doesn't change the fact that you tried to lessen the bombings by Ayers with falsehoods.


Aww... having issues today?



Ayers isn't in the election.. he is being used as a way to use guilt by association to condemn obama for something that was done when Obama was a child.

The same people trying to tie these 2 together and calling Obama a terrorist by association with a former terrorist then comes on tv and refuses to call abortion clinic bombers terrorists.

Do you not see the problem here?

If you attack someone and then defend that same behavior if it is one of your friends or beliefs that is involved, you look RIDICULOUS!
 

shadow9d9

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ohnoes
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder if these supposed bombers were "respected" members of the community and had done it "years ago" if they should be called terrorists...

I don't know, did they become a preeminent source on education reform & a professor?

Probably not but is being a professor absolve one from being a terrorist? What is the standard for absolution since there seems to be one for Ayers?

I dare to quote a SINGLE person here that has EVER said that Ayers was not a terrorist at one point.

You shouldn't have a problem because you seem to think it is quite common...

Now go away with your fear and smear nonsense.

I didn't make that sort of claim so I'm not sure why you'd want me to find some quote to prove something...



You said "Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder if these supposed bombers were "respected" members of the community and had done it "years ago" if they should be called terrorists..."
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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The Ayers tie-in has never been about terrorism and always about having the baby boomers relive their past, hoping that they'll align themselves now the same way they did in '68 and '72.
 

RightIsWrong

Diamond Member
Apr 29, 2005
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It is actually worse.

She is directly asked "Are people that set fires in American cities during the 60's terrorists under this definition (he defines it using her terms a few seconds earlier)? Is an abortion clinic bomber a terrorist under this definition?

Her answer (video) at 1:25 in

SP: "There's no question that Bill Ayers via his own admittance sought to destroy our US capital and Pentagon. That is a domestic terrorist. There's no question. Now, others that would want to engage in harming innocent Americans or facilities, that it would be unacceptable. I don't know if you are going to use the word terrorist there but it is unacceptable and it wouldn't be condoned of course on our watch.

But, I don't know if what you're asking is if I regret referring to Bill Ayers as a unrepentant domestic terrorist, I don't regret characterizing him as that.

Brian Williams: I'm just asking what other categories you would put in there (domestic terrorist)? Abortion clinic bombers? Protesters in cities where fires were started, maltov cocktails were thrown, people died?

SP: I would put in that category of Bill Ayers anyone else who would seek to campaign to destroy our capital and pentagon and would seek to destroy innocent Americans.

BW: Sen. McCain, the head of your campaign...

JM: Let me just mention one thing in addition to that. It's not just the unrepentant terrorist who stayed on the run from and said as short of a time ago as 9/11 that they wished that they would have bombed more. His wife was on the FBI's top 10 list. It's the relationship with Mr. Ayers that Sen. Obama hasn't been forthcoming about. That's what Sen. Clinton said in their debates and that's what I'm saying.
 

heyheybooboo

Diamond Member
Jun 29, 2007
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This is merely typical Republican hypocrisy when CAD bloviates about something that doesn't exist simply because his beloved Caribou Barbi falsely condems Obama of ""...palling around with terrorists...""

And then refuses to acknowledge abortion clinic bombers as domestic terrorists.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
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www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it but it doesn't change the fact that you tried to lessen the bombings by Ayers with falsehoods.

You want to play games with words? Ayers never planted a bomb that killed anyone. Should I accuse you of lying?

You're trying to distract from the issue. Palin thinks Ayers is a terrorist even though HE didn't kill anyone. She thinks abortion clinic bombers who actually DO kill people are not terrorists.

There is no rationale for this distinction other than that she personally feels blowing up abortion clinics isn't terrorism.

Ayers wasn't a bomb designer? Hmmm..... from what I remember reading - he was.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
1
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www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it but it doesn't change the fact that you tried to lessen the bombings by Ayers with falsehoods.


Aww... having issues today?



Ayers isn't in the election.. he is being used as a way to use guilt by association to condemn obama for something that was done when Obama was a child.

The same people trying to tie these 2 together and calling Obama a terrorist by association with a former terrorist then comes on tv and refuses to call abortion clinic bombers terrorists.

Do you not see the problem here?

If you attack someone and then defend that same behavior if it is one of your friends or beliefs that is involved, you look RIDICULOUS!


So? I wasn't talking about the election. This is about labeling domestic terrorists - terrorists. People here seem to be up in arms about Palin not instantly calling abortion bombers as terrorists yet calling Ayers one. Well, he is one, just as the abortion bombers are. And I agree, those who play apolgist for one while condemning the other do look ridiculous.
 

heyheybooboo

Diamond Member
Jun 29, 2007
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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

If you actually read anything in that thread, you would see I made a post later on that indicated it may be false and then earlier today changed the title. At any rate, I was posting only what a reputable, recognized news source was reporting.

I am being honest, how about you??

Hey, Einstein ....

Perhaps you missed my post in your mutilation thread at 02:45 PM ...

And first off I will commend the OP for the graciousness shown in backing away from this foolishness.

I'm thinking about editing out that comment, now.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it...[snip]

Cad, do you really think she would EVER condemn it as terrorism? She says "unacceptable" and "would not be condoned" but if it's involving bombs and it's unacceptable, then why wouldn't she classify it as terrorism? Answer: She will stop just short of calling it terrorism because it furthers her Christian cause against abortion.

I just don't see how you can vote for a radical social conservative like this. Ever.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
1
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www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ohnoes
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder if these supposed bombers were "respected" members of the community and had done it "years ago" if they should be called terrorists...

I don't know, did they become a preeminent source on education reform & a professor?

Probably not but is being a professor absolve one from being a terrorist? What is the standard for absolution since there seems to be one for Ayers?

I dare to quote a SINGLE person here that has EVER said that Ayers was not a terrorist at one point.

You shouldn't have a problem because you seem to think it is quite common...

Now go away with your fear and smear nonsense.

I didn't make that sort of claim so I'm not sure why you'd want me to find some quote to prove something...



You said "Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder if these supposed bombers were "respected" members of the community and had done it "years ago" if they should be called terrorists..."

So you think he's a terrorist? Or is he not now due to time and his current job? The abortion bombers are terrorists...or are they not now due to time and their current job?
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: jonks
You want to play games with words? Ayers never planted a bomb that killed anyone. Should I accuse you of lying?

Ayers wasn't a bomb designer? Hmmm..... from what I remember reading - he was.

non-sequitur much?

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
So? I wasn't talking about the election. This is about labeling domestic terrorists - terrorists. People here seem to be up in arms about Palin not instantly calling abortion bombers as terrorists yet calling Ayers one. Well, he is one, just as the abortion bombers are. And I agree, those who play apolgist for one while condemning the other do look ridiculous.

Still spinning? You can't find someone who says Ayers wasn't a terrorist. No one is apologizing for Ayers, they are simply illustrating the ridiculousness of Palin's position. Ayers didn't kill anyone, clearly a terrorist. Abortion bombers who kill, not terrorists.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only people killed in Weatherman bombings were themselves.

And that makes it ok... :disgust:

Looks like you are leaping to another conclusion - just like you did with your ""McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh "" thread.

Try again.

maybe jumping to conclusions is better than lying like you did with your attempted apologism.

Apologism, CAD?

Sarah Palin refused to condemn abortion clinic bombings where people have been killed and maimed. She declined to denounce them as 'domestic terrorists'.

You are putting words in my mouth that are not there.

Can you see which finger I'm directing to you?

And? IMO she should have condemned it...[snip]

Cad, do you really think she would EVER condemn it as terrorism? She says "unacceptable" and "would not be condoned" but if it's involving bombs and it's unacceptable, then why wouldn't she classify it as terrorism? Answer: She will stop just short of calling it terrorism because it furthers her Christian cause against abortion.

I just don't see how you can vote for a radical social conservative like this. Ever.

I firmly believe he is paid to be a radical.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
1
76
www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
This is merely typical Republican hypocrisy when CAD bloviates about something that doesn't exist simply because his beloved Caribou Barbi falsely condems Obama of ""...palling around with terrorists...""

And then refuses to acknowledge abortion clinic bombers as domestic terrorists.

LOL, where did I say they weren't terrorists? Oh wait, I never said they weren't and have posted they are. I have merely been playing with you Ayers apologist due to your obvious hypocrisy in being outraged.

I happend to agree with shadow9d9 - those who attack one but attempt to defend the other look ridiculous.
 

dphantom

Diamond Member
Jan 14, 2005
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Both are terrorists IMO. I suspect that if you ask Palin straight up she would agree. Without the entire context of the conversation she was in, believe she was trying to point out Ayers is a terrorist.

And as for Palin being the fuiture of the Republican party, well perhaps. If nothing else, the left absolutely are terrified of who she is and what she stands for. It is evidently very threatening to our leftist friends here and elsewhere.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: dphantom
Both are terrorists IMO. I suspect that if you ask Palin straight up she would agree.

is that not what we're talking about for 3 pages now?

?I don?t know if you?re going to use the word ?terrorist? there,? she said.

Now who's the apologist?
 

shadow9d9

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: ohnoes
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder if these supposed bombers were "respected" members of the community and had done it "years ago" if they should be called terrorists...

I don't know, did they become a preeminent source on education reform & a professor?

Probably not but is being a professor absolve one from being a terrorist? What is the standard for absolution since there seems to be one for Ayers?

I dare to quote a SINGLE person here that has EVER said that Ayers was not a terrorist at one point.

You shouldn't have a problem because you seem to think it is quite common...

Now go away with your fear and smear nonsense.

I didn't make that sort of claim so I'm not sure why you'd want me to find some quote to prove something...



You said "Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder if these supposed bombers were "respected" members of the community and had done it "years ago" if they should be called terrorists..."

So you think he's a terrorist? Or is he not now due to time and his current job? The abortion bombers are terrorists...or are they not now due to time and their current job?


As I already said, yes he was a terrorist, no different than abortion bombers. Period.

Palin's hypocrisy because it is something she agrees with is absolutely apparent. Whereas Obama has never denied that Ayers was a terrorist.