It's not MY fault for dressing provocatively. It's YOUR fault for looking at me!

[buckshot24]

Oh, I must be off the list. I guess this means I can ask you to back up your claims about evolution again eh?

Go ahead. But that doesn't make your statement any more creepy.

 

[chipwitch]

Very insensitive of you.

As often as you like to call people hypocrite, it's funny that you didn't see the irony... the person to whom I had addressed my post DID reduce humans to that of animals incapable of self-control. He did! LOL

 

[chipwitch]

What a load of bullshit!

Feminist make this argument all the time.

public School dress codes are all fairly similar

Boys also have to follow the rules

Dress codes apply in the real world too

Sorry... I don't see the bullshit. The OP showed a picture of a flyer and essentially claimed the girl was dressed like a hooker. If that was all in the OP, then my argument is legitimate. We DON'T know. It's wholly unfair to say the flyer came about because a girl was dressed like a hooker. Period.

 

[DrDoug]

I think that someone made the pic as bait to reel in some suckers. That and I think that they have caught a BIG ONE.

That's all I've got... :biggrin:

 

[MongGrel]

Okay special snowflake!

Gee Wally, now I really feel bad.

Um, not really.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

I think that someone made the pic as bait to reel in some suckers. That and I think that they have caught a BIG ONE.

That's all I've got... :biggrin:

Whether this particular story is true or not is irrelevant.

 

[DrDoug]

Whether this particular story is true or not is irrelevant.

To you...lol! To me it means absolutely nothing because it's just a piece of paper that someone printed a message on, then taping that piece of paper to something, taking a picture of it and posting it on the internet. The someone who wrote this could have been a man or a woman, agreeing or disagreeing with the printed statement, but either way their intent is to inflame suckers on both sides into biting on the bait.

That's all it is, sucker bait, and your thinking that it's something significant tells me that you're a sucker too.

 

[chipwitch]

To you...lol! To me it means absolutely nothing because it's just a piece of paper that someone printed a message on, then taping that piece of paper to something, taking a picture of it and posting it on the internet. The someone who wrote this could have been a man or a woman, agreeing or disagreeing with the printed statement, but either way their intent is to inflame suckers on both sides into biting on the bait.

That's all it is, sucker bait, and your thinking that it's something significant tells me that you're a sucker too.

Yup... it could be the Planned Parenthood videos all over again...

 

[realibrad]

Go ahead. But that doesn't make your statement any more creepy.

Its only creepy if you make the assumption that I like the idea because of a sexual nature. I think your assumption that I would like this because it would arouse me says a lot more about your mind than it does mine.

I like the idea because of the image I get when thinking of how the administration would try to deal with that reaction. So far as I know, school dress code does not require undergarments, so I don't imagine it would break any rules. If the rule about showing underwear is assuming people want to wear underwear, then it would be a great counter.

The fact that you made it sexual is actually creepy.

 

[chipwitch]

Its only creepy if you make the assumption that I like the idea because of a sexual nature. I think your assumption that I would like this because it would arouse me says a lot more about your mind than it does mine.

I like the idea because of the image I get when thinking of how the administration would try to deal with that reaction. So far as I know, school dress code does not require undergarments, so I don't imagine it would break any rules. If the rule about showing underwear is assuming people want to wear underwear, then it would be a great counter.

The fact that you made it sexual is actually creepy.

+1

Isn't is a sad world we live in when well meaning adults, no matter how altruistic their intentions, must refrain from ANY interaction with children. It's an unfortunate product of a society with an all too high occurrence of child molestation and an even higher occurrence of people who can think of little else but sex. The latter of course, automatically assuming everyone has nefarious motives for every action or statement.

 

[realibrad]

+1

Isn't is a sad world we live in when well meaning adults, no matter how altruistic their intentions, must refrain from ANY interaction with children. It's an unfortunate product of a society with an all too high occurrence of child molestation and an even higher occurrence of people who can think of little else but sex. The latter of course, automatically assuming everyone has nefarious motives for every action or statement.

Its a quick and easy way to diminish someones arguments.

I want to have kids pretty soon, and the biggest fear I have is that somehow, something me or my GF does will be considered wrong. I have read too many headlines about parents taking pics of their kids naked and being labeled as abusers or pedos. I would google some of the articles, but I'm at work and I would never want that saved in my search history.

 

[fskimospy]

Its a quick and easy way to diminish someones arguments.

I want to have kids pretty soon, and the biggest fear I have is that somehow, something me or my GF does will be considered wrong. I have read too many headlines about parents taking pics of their kids naked and being labeled as abusers or pedos. I would google some of the articles, but I'm at work and I would never want that saved in my search history.

I have to say the constant whining from some men about how they are so oppressed is ridiculous to me but one area where they are totally right is in regards to children. If I saw a child on the street who was clearly lost I would think twice about going over to help just because of the risk of being perceived as an abductor or a pedo or whatever.

Same goes for photos. What I always find weird is that it's likely the prosecutor who would be looking into someone for taking naked baby pictures probably has parents who took naked baby pictures of him/her.

 

[chipwitch]

Its a quick and easy way to diminish someones arguments.

I want to have kids pretty soon, and the biggest fear I have is that somehow, something me or my GF does will be considered wrong. I have read too many headlines about parents taking pics of their kids naked and being labeled as abusers or pedos. I would google some of the articles, but I'm at work and I would never want that saved in my search history.

I can see posting such pictures on the internet as a problem, but you know of accusations leveled against just plain unclothed photos?

I was never able to have children, my greatest life disappointment. But, if I had children, I'm sure I'd have a few pics that just happened to be unclothed. Shame on the mind that thinks its sexual.

 

[realibrad]

I have to say the constant whining from some men about how they are so oppressed is ridiculous to me but one area where they are totally right is in regards to children. If I saw a child on the street who was clearly lost I would think twice about going over to help just because of the risk of being perceived as an abductor or a pedo or whatever.

Same goes for photos. What I always find weird is that it's likely the prosecutor who would be looking into someone for taking naked baby pictures probably has parents who took naked baby pictures of him/her.

I see movies from the 80s where you can see how different life was not too long ago. The movie Big had a scene where some kids payed a hooker to get naked. It was a funny scene, but today holy shit.

 

[realibrad]

I can see posting such pictures on the internet as a problem, but you know of accusations leveled against just plain unclothed photos?

I was never able to have children, my greatest life disappointment. But, if I had children, I'm sure I'd have a few pics that just happened to be unclothed. Shame on the mind that thinks its sexual.

See, I dont even have a problem with posted pics. Pedos are gonna pedo. Posting a pic is not going to hurt a kid so long as its not sexual. If a parent posted a pick of their kids bathing because they thought it was cute, and some sicko gets off on it, the kids are not hurt. People are weird and get off on weird things. If you posted a pick of your kid blowing a bubble and some weirdo gets off on it, would you want to take the pic down? I wouldnt want to, but if people made something out of it I would because of the reaction I would get from others asking why I did not take it down I might.

Its one thing to protect kids, but its another to worry about how sickos will react.

 

[realibrad]

Google is becoming skynet. Out of nowhere this video just popped up on my recommended list. I have never seen this channel before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uttuzAVBMI

But this video fits here.

 

[momeNt]

I have to say the constant whining from some men about how they are so oppressed is ridiculous to me but one area where they are totally right is in regards to children. If I saw a child on the street who was clearly lost I would think twice about going over to help just because of the risk of being perceived as an abductor or a pedo or whatever.

Same goes for photos. What I always find weird is that it's likely the prosecutor who would be looking into someone for taking naked baby pictures probably has parents who took naked baby pictures of him/her.

The prosecutors that go after things that don't pass the smell test, like parents with naked children photos, or trying to inject erection chemicals into the penis of a 15 year old boy because he sent a dick pic to 16 year old girl, are usually pedophiles.

 

[Shaun_Brannen]

If you lack the self-control to keep your hands off a random stranger, regardless of how they dress, you are a piece of shit human being that belongs in the bottom of a landfill. Period. The world deserves better than you, and you should be publicly shamed and are in serious need of social reconditioning.

Some of you people have pathetically low standards for yourselves.

 

[chipwitch]

Google is becoming skynet. Out of nowhere this video just popped up on my recommended list. I have never seen this channel before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uttuzAVBMI

But this video fits here.

Wow! Kudos to the dad for taking a stand (but I still wouldn't post the pic... pedos do exist, are abundant and will act if given the opportunity). Posting pics of this are rarely of an anonymous nature. I'm more concerned about the picture being tied to the identity of the child. If it's innocent then all is well and good. But, approximately 1 out of every 4 women were sexually abused as a child by a family member. That's where I find concern.

When it comes to kids, I too would come down on the side of caution, personally. There is little to be gained from posting pics of my naked child. There are many risks. I wouldn't worry so much about what other parents think. I'd worry about some psycho seeing the pic, knowing how to get close to the child, then acting on it.

Maybe it's just because I'm old. The last couple generations have leaped headlong into trusting the world with their privacy. I am probably in the top 95 percentile when it comes to technology, but I refuse to have a facebook account, precisely because of privacy concerns. Although, I have nothing to hide, one only has to look at how every video or photo that pops up and goes viral, USUALLY has people passing absolute judgement based solely on that media without knowing the facts. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words... sometimes it's the few words left out that are most important.

 

[chipwitch]

If you lack the self-control to keep your hands off a random stranger, regardless of how they dress, you are a piece of shit human being...
Some of you people have pathetically low standards for yourselves.

+1

I'm not saying all believers in god lack self-control, but individuals who lack self-control often seek a higher power to defer to.

 

[realibrad]

If you lack the self-control to keep your hands off a random stranger, regardless of how they dress, you are a piece of shit human being that belongs in the bottom of a landfill. Period. The world deserves better than you, and you should be publicly shamed and are in serious need of social reconditioning.

Some of you people have pathetically low standards for yourselves.

So first, who is saying people should be able to touch others for how they dress?

2nd, you are advocating people be killed for touching, but touching can be a lot of things. I dont see the need for the death penalty for an unwanted hug. You should not do it, but you should also not be put to death for it.

3rd, you are now saying people should be shammed and socially reconditioned (I agree) but that is very different then killing them.

 

[realibrad]

Wow! Kudos to the dad for taking a stand (but I still wouldn't post the pic... pedos do exist, are abundant and will act if given the opportunity). Posting pics of this are rarely of an anonymous nature. I'm more concerned about the picture being tied to the identity of the child. If it's innocent then all is well and good. But, approximately 1 out of every 4 women were sexually abused as a child by a family member. That's where I find concern.

When it comes to kids, I too would come down on the side of caution, personally. There is little to be gained from posting pics of my naked child. There are many risks. I wouldn't worry so much about what other parents think. I'd worry about some psycho seeing the pic, knowing how to get close to the child, then acting on it.

Maybe it's just because I'm old. The last couple generations have leaped headlong into trusting the world with their privacy. I am probably in the top 95 percentile when it comes to technology, but I refuse to have a facebook account, precisely because of privacy concerns. Although, I have nothing to hide, one only has to look at how every video or photo that pops up and goes viral, USUALLY has people passing absolute judgement based solely on that media without knowing the facts. Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words... sometimes it's the few words left out that are most important.

Where did you get your stat about child abuse? Holy crap that is high but if true super sad.

As for the pic thing, what harm would come to a child over a posted pic? Im not talking about a kid posting a nude selfie on their own account, but a parent. I just dont see how it protects a child in any way.

 

[chipwitch]

Where did you get your stat about child abuse? Holy crap that is high but if true super sad.

As for the pic thing, what harm would come to a child over a posted pic? Im not talking about a kid posting a nude selfie on their own account, but a parent. I just dont see how it protects a child in any way.

That stat I've seen for years. I can't quote an exact source. Many like to downplay the number as it is an estimate based on data collected. But, as women are sometimes reticent about coming out about the abuse, the stat is adjusted to try to include them.

No disrespect intended, but I'm guessing you're young? Of a generation who no longer considers privacy a dear commodity? Children are abducted in the US everyday by pedophiles. Most are not random. They are by someone who knows the child... perhaps a gardener, a store clerk... anyone you basically come in contact with. Photos are a device on which one can easily become obsessed. If one of those people actually knows me and in some way has access to my child? Game over. Photos are just fuel to feed the flames of their sick desires. Point is, why would a parent risk it? I'd be more concerned about the welfare of my children and less about what other parents think.

There are numerous cases of children being snatched from their beds while the parents are in the next room sleeping. I don't mean to frighten you. Odds are against it. But there's still something to be said for prudence and privacy is prudent. Take pictures of your kids. Share them with your trusted family and friends, by all means! Share the joy and the love! I just advise you to keep it tight. Can you imagine your child's teacher having one of those naked pics of your kid in his/her top desk drawer? Would that disturb you?

 

[chipwitch]

Here's a link to one set of stats. It's a more conservative "1 in 5" girls and doesn't say by whom they were assaulted, but still...

http://www.victimsofcrime.org/media/reporting-on-child-sexual-abuse/child-sexual-abuse-statistics

 

[realibrad]

That stat I've seen for years. I can't quote an exact source. Many like to downplay the number as it is an estimate based on data collected. But, as women are sometimes reticent about coming out about the abuse, the stat is adjusted to try to include them.

No disrespect intended, but I'm guessing you're young? Of a generation who no longer considers privacy a dear commodity? Children are abducted in the US everyday by pedophiles. Most are not random. They are by someone who knows the child... perhaps a gardener, a store clerk... anyone you basically come in contact with. Photos are a device on which one can easily become obsessed. If one of those people actually knows me and in some way has access to my child? Game over. Photos are just fuel to feed the flames of their sick desires. Point is, why would a parent risk it? I'd be more concerned about the welfare of my children and less about what other parents think.

There are numerous cases of children being snatched from their beds while the parents are in the next room sleeping. I don't mean to frighten you. Odds are against it. But there's still something to be said for prudence and privacy is prudent. Take pictures of your kids. Share them with your trusted family and friends, by all means! Share the joy and the love! I just advise you to keep it tight. Can you imagine your child's teacher having one of those naked pics of your kid in his/her top desk drawer? Would that disturb you?

29 so kinda on that, but wrong about privacy. I have a facebook that I check about once a year. No profile pic. I dont use twitter, or any other social media. I enjoy my privacy quite a bit actually.

Now, about 100 kids a year are abducted by a stranger. That includes all age ranges of "kid". A family member can easily become obsessed and does not need pictures. If the argument is that a picture on social media can drive someone to focus on that child, then follow the logic.

There are about 24 million kids in the US ages 0-5. About 75 million kids total. Take 75million kids and divide that by the 100, and you see how crazy it is to worry about abduction when there are so many other things far more likely to harm your child. A .00013% chance of something bad happening to your kid is a weird thing to worry about. It just does not seem important enough to worry about.

As for a teacher having the pic, it would only bother me if it were sexual. If it were sexual, then I would report it because its an indication that the teacher could represent a threat to a child, specifically mine. If it were a pic I gave the teacher because the teacher was a family friend, then no. I worry about my child's safety, and not what gets others off.