It's not MY fault for dressing provocatively. It's YOUR fault for looking at me!

[s0me0nesmind1]

What is AT P&N's thoughts on this ingenious rational?

Next time, don't editorialize in your title, link to a source, and provide your thoughts on the matter in your OP. Other than that . . .

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Genetics are hard to unlearn.

 

[heymrdj]

Genetics are hard to unlearn.

This.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Dress codes generally are not unreasonable.
Underwear is just as it sounds under wear thus its not unreasonable to ask a student to keep it unseen.

 

[chipwitch]

Considering the only evidence submitted by the OP is the picture of the flyer, did anyone think to applaud the straw man?

Dressing "like a hooker" would be an issue, but since we don't know the dress policy of that school, it is possible were talking about a girl who showed her ankles. Unlikely, of course, but so is the "hooker" comment.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

isn't the op the same person who railed against women who stay home and take care of the house and kids, claiming it wasn't hard work?

op's credibility = Ø

 

[mikeymikec]

What is AT P&N's thoughts on this ingenious rational?

Sounds about right, on the face of it. However, context is important and none has been provided here.

I've seen my share of stupid school policies, such as suspending a boy from school because he had a Batman symbol shaved on the back of his head, or that it should even be a debatable question that girls should be allowed to wear trousers rather than standard uniform skirts/dresses on cold/windy days, yet some schools run idiotic policies.

As with a lot of things, kids try to push the boundaries of what they perceive as acceptable behaviour. The more that authority tries to enforce 'acceptable behaviour', the more the kids will push, especially if the rules are stupid. Girls have to jump through a lot more hoops in this respect than boys do, at least in my experience, so it's no surprise that they're going to rebel. So, if an organisation such as a school has rules such as what constitutes acceptable attire, they should bear in mind that their rules should actually be for sensible reasons that most sensible people won't bother to debate, rather than trying to enforce a stupid policy based on their utopian (and/or puritan) mental picture of how teenagers are going to look and behave.

If having a short skirt is no longer a sign of rebellion, then is it worth the aggravation (of say a windy/cold day)?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Considering the only evidence submitted by the OP is the picture of the flyer, did anyone think to applaud the straw man?

Dressing "like a hooker" would be an issue, but since we don't know the dress policy of that school, it is possible were talking about a girl who showed her ankles. Unlikely, of course, but so is the "hooker" comment.

It doesn't matter what it is that was shown. It doesn't matter if its her tits, her underwear, her bra strap, or her ankles. Rules are rules. You obey the rules of the school, especially considering you are a minor. If you disagree with rules in life than you bring it up as an issue to address/debate. That doesn't mean you can disobey a rule that you do not agree with. And in this case it's not even the heart of the issue. It's an underlying way of essentially agreeing that they are breaking the rules, but justifying it by saying no one should notice it and ignore it. Brilliant Watson!

Is someone going to go into an office dressed in short shorts or her bra hanging out and then blame the company when she is fired for not meeting the standard dress code? It's the hilarious reverse logic of Feminazis that is poisoning logical thought process, proper rational, and overall - simply not being a complete dumbass.

Instead people your this shit like it is he fault of everyone else in life. Then you wonder why you grow up with a generation of entitled brats that want everything handed to them in life.

It's not my fault I can't get a job! It's all these companies that are against me!

 

[mikeymikec]

Feminazis

I also find it hilarious how you label someone you haven't even seen as "dressing like a hooker". Opinionated much?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The flyer goes wrong where it stereotypes boys as slaves to shorts and bra straps.

 

[soulcougher73]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBPaenkxdg

 

[realibrad]

I also find it hilarious how you label someone you haven't even seen as "dressing like a hooker". Opinionated much?

He is not saying the girl dressed like a hooker. He is applying the logic and showing how stupid it would be if someone were to dress like a hooker.

 

[Jhhnn]

Nice leap of faith & disclosure of bias with "dressing like a hooker".

 

[1prophet]

Good thing she isn't a schoolgirl in Germany she would be accused of provoking the boys by the mayor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irdn99g0rOU#t=76

Mayor of Bad Schlema in central Germany, tells to elementary school girls to stop ‘Provoking’ refugees with the way they dress

The mayor of a small German community said elementary school-aged girls should take alternative routes to school and not provoke refugees with the way they dress.

The town of Bad Schlema in central Germany has 5,500 residents. More than 100 people showed up to a city council meeting last week when the topic of the town’s 85 refugees was discussed.

The grandfather of an elementary school girl “under 10” said the children have been harassed by refugees on their way to school. The man asked Bad Schlema’s mayor Jens Muller about his plans to prevent sexual assaults by refugees on girls in the community, particularly when the weather gets warmer and people dress more lightly.

“That’s easy,” Muller said. “Just don’t provoke them and don’t walk in these areas.”

 

[Jhhnn]

He is not saying the girl dressed like a hooker. He is applying the logic and showing how stupid it would be if someone were to dress like a hooker.

That's defending bullshit with more bullshit.

 

[mikeymikec]

He is not saying the girl dressed like a hooker. He is applying the logic and showing how stupid it would be if someone were to dress like a hooker.

I disagree:

It doesn't matter what it is that was shown.

 

[sm625]

The flyer goes wrong where it stereotypes boys as slaves to shorts and bra straps.

Well they basically are. The more skin and curves a (normally functioning) male sees, the more sperm and semen he produces. It is a natural biological process. As these volumes of liquid increase, he spends more and more time worrying about having to stand up at the "wrong moment" or worse, making a mess in his pants. This obviously reduces the quality of his education. Some might argue that masturbation prevents a lot of this but then that creates its own issues which are potentially worse in the long run than a momentary embarassment. To state it in feminazi terms: Why should boys be forcefully subjected to these microaggressions? The reason dress codes make sense is because you can easily define a dress code and easily regulate it. You cannot so easily regulate the production or quantity of male reproductive fluids. Some simply produce more than others, and it can be very distracting and even crippling in some instances. It is too distasteful and impractical to attempt to regulate the levels of those bodily fluids, so we must settle for regulating them indirectly.

 

[chipwitch]

It doesn't matter what it is that was shown. It doesn't matter if its her tits, her underwear, her bra strap, or her ankles. Rules are rules. You obey the rules of the school, especially considering you are a minor. If you disagree with rules in life than you bring it up as an issue to address/debate. That doesn't mean you can disobey a rule that you do not agree with. And in this case it's not even the heart of the issue. It's an underlying way of essentially agreeing that they are breaking the rules, but justifying it by saying no one should notice it and ignore it. Brilliant Watson!

Is someone going to go into an office dressed in short shorts or her bra hanging out and then blame the company when she is fired for not meeting the standard dress code? It's the hilarious reverse logic of Feminazis that is poisoning logical thought process, proper rational, and overall - simply not being a complete dumbass.

Instead people your this shit like it is he fault of everyone else in life. Then you wonder why you grow up with a generation of entitled brats that want everything handed to them in life.

It's not my fault I can't get a job! It's all these companies that are against me!

Whoaa there Nellie. I didn't suggest anarchy or even breaking a single rule. I only said you created a straw man. Which you did. Show us some pictures of the girl in the questionable attire that precipitated the flyer in the OP. If she is "dressed like a hooker," then you will have properly supported your thesis. Otherwise, you're just making up shit.

 

[TechBoyJK]

how is this P&N?

 

[chipwitch]

Well they basically are. The more skin and curves a (normally functioning) male sees, the more sperm and semen he produces. It is a natural biological process. As these volumes of liquid increase, he spends more and more time worrying about having to stand up at the "wrong moment" or worse, making a mess in his pants. This obviously reduces the quality of his education. Some might argue that masturbation prevents a lot of this but then that creates its own issues which are potentially worse in the long run than a momentary embarassment. To state it in feminazi terms: Why should boys be forcefully subjected to these microaggressions? The reason dress codes make sense is because you can easily define a dress code and easily regulate it. You cannot so easily regulate the production or quantity of male reproductive fluids. Some simply produce more than others, and it can be very distracting and even crippling in some instances. It is too distasteful and impractical to attempt to regulate the levels of those bodily fluids, so we must settle for regulating them indirectly.

You wouldn't by chance be one of those right wing nut jobs who finds it offensive to reduce humans to the level of animals incapable of controlling their behavior, are you? Or, are you left-leaning and just being sarcastic? Because it's really funny either way!

 

[FerrelGeek]

So why is it that there are some in European countries that blame the women, and how they dress, for contributing to the issue of sexual misconduct by male Muslim refugees?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Well they basically are. The more skin and curves a (normally functioning) male sees, the more sperm and semen he produces. It is a natural biological process. As these volumes of liquid increase, he spends more and more time worrying about having to stand up at the "wrong moment" or worse, making a mess in his pants. This obviously reduces the quality of his education. Some might argue that masturbation prevents a lot of this but then that creates its own issues which are potentially worse in the long run than a momentary embarassment. To state it in feminazi terms: Why should boys be forcefully subjected to these microaggressions? The reason dress codes make sense is because you can easily define a dress code and easily regulate it. You cannot so easily regulate the production or quantity of male reproductive fluids. Some simply produce more than others, and it can be very distracting and even crippling in some instances. It is too distasteful and impractical to attempt to regulate the levels of those bodily fluids, so we must settle for regulating them indirectly.

Part of growing up is learning to be responsible for and managing your urges. Other people are going to have boobs, deal with it.

 

[mikeymikec]

Well they basically are. The more skin and curves a (normally functioning) male sees, the more sperm and semen he produces. It is a natural biological process.

So I guess teaching boys how to behave in civilised society is wrong and/or pointless, after all, they should be allowed to do what's natural to them, and everyone else should work around that "natural" behaviour?

Did your parents teach you not to stare?

 

[chipwitch]

He is not saying the girl dressed like a hooker. He is applying the logic and showing how stupid it would be if someone were to dress like a hooker.

Oh, I must have been out of class the day the professor lectured on 'logic' as a method of proving 'stupid'. Could you please send me your notes? I'd like to brush up.

 

[shira]

I would say that whoever wrote the flyer has not thoroughly thought out their position. Somewhere along the continuum from "Women who appear in public - assuming they're allowed to appear in public - must wear a burqa" to "Women are free to appear anywhere in public in any desired state of dress or undress, including completely naked, and men are required to avert their eyes and keep their thoughts pure" there needs to be a zone of compromise. And that zone will undoubtedly be different based on the specific circumstances that apply.

I'm sure that some women are incapable of understanding the need for compromise on this issue; but I'm sure that some men are also incapable of understanding the need for compromise on this issue.