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it's colder upstairs than downstairs?

rasczak

Lifer
our bedrooms have been freezers for the past month. short of actually replacing the windows, does anyone have ideas to help keep the heat in? there are no drafts coming in from the windows, it's really the windows themselves that get real cold.has anyone used those window films to help insulate their windows?
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

This is the cheapest solution.

Others:
Cellular shades
Thermal curtains/drapes

yea, we've got heavy curtains draped across the windows, but they don't seem to help.

I'm trying the link, but it's drawing a blank page, what exactly is being shown?

As you can probably guess from my post, I'm not a very handy handyman so thanks for the advice. 🙂
 
That's how my house is. Lucky I moved downstairs last summer, and my room is right above the furnace.

You could try window films, they do help. Also, use curtains/blinds. They will provide some resistance to air being cooled by the windows. However, you will be blocking the sunlight from directly entering, which means less heat absorbed. Otherwise, you may not "see" it, but your wall insulation probably sucks. That's a pretty big fix though.

You can also try a space heater, or getting your furnace checked out. Maybe the ventilation isn't strong enough (our second floor gets virtually no heat from the furnace thanks to head loss and a crappy fan/pump).
 
I have a question along the same lines... I know if there are drafts, then you're losing heat in a sense. But what if the problem is thin windows... I don't feel a draft, but touching the thin glass, it's pretty much ice cold. Am I losing heat or otherwise not keeping the temperature optimal?

Does that above film actually help this or does it simply seal out leaks/drafts? I have been using plastic insulation that just blocks the windows entirely but it's not clear so it's an eyesore and of course we have to put it up / remove it every year.

No attic... but this problem exists at every window even downstairs (they're old and we're not planning on re-doing them since we may move at any time). And even so, upstairs it will always be cold because of no insulation in the walls/ceiling.
 
Originally posted by: Imp
That's how my house is. Lucky I moved downstairs last summer, and my room is right above the furnace.

You could try window films, they do help. Also, use curtains/blinds. They will provide some resistance to air being cooled by the windows. However, you will be blocking the sunlight from directly entering, which means less heat absorbed. Otherwise, you may not "see" it, but your wall insulation probably sucks. That's a pretty big fix though.

You can also try a space heater, or getting your furnace checked out. Maybe the ventilation isn't strong enough (our second floor gets virtually no heat from the furnace thanks to head loss and a crappy fan/pump).[/q]

I'm trying to stay away from using a space heater (trying to keep electric bill down) and our furnace hasn't been turned on in fifteen years, so we've not used that (would like to refrain as i'd like to keep the energy bill down anyway, also we live in san diego so most winters aren't as cold as it's been)



Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Are these single pane windows?

And as amdskip said what is the insualtion in the attic looking like?

they are single pane windows, but at this time, replacing them is out of the question. as far as the attic is concerned, we do not have one as our ceiling is vaulted.

maybe it would be cheapest to buy the kids longjohns and stuff them back in the room? 😉
 
Originally posted by: rh71
I have a question along the same lines... I know if there are drafts, then you're losing heat in a sense. But what if the problem is thin windows... I don't feel a draft, but touching the thin glass, it's pretty much ice cold. Am I losing heat or otherwise not keeping the temperature optimal?

Does that above film actually help this or does it simply seal out leaks/drafts? I have been using plastic insulation that just blocks the windows entirely but it's not clear so it's an eyesore and of course we have to put it up / remove it every year.

No attic... but this problem exists at every window even downstairs (they're old and we're not planning on re-doing them since we may move at any time). And even so, upstairs it will always be cold because of no insulation in the walls/ceiling.

i got a bunch of those Frost King window insulators from Home Depot to better seal my windows but after opening one and seeing how thin the plastic is, i decided to go online and read some of the reviews. Ended up returning all of them because I doubt those would have added any insulation. Keep out drafts maybe...
 
Yea if its single pane and there is no attic for insulation then you are losing a lot of heat there.

Even the basic cheap Low-E vinyal windows will help there. That and will also help in the summer. Can get a small part back from the tax writeoff for energy items.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Yea if its single pane and there is no attic for insulation then you are losing a lot of heat there.

Even the basic cheap Low-E vinyal windows will help there. That and will also help in the summer. Can get a small part back from the tax writeoff for energy items.

nice. i'll check it out. Thanks!
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: rh71
I have a question along the same lines... I know if there are drafts, then you're losing heat in a sense. But what if the problem is thin windows... I don't feel a draft, but touching the thin glass, it's pretty much ice cold. Am I losing heat or otherwise not keeping the temperature optimal?

Does that above film actually help this or does it simply seal out leaks/drafts? I have been using plastic insulation that just blocks the windows entirely but it's not clear so it's an eyesore and of course we have to put it up / remove it every year.

No attic... but this problem exists at every window even downstairs (they're old and we're not planning on re-doing them since we may move at any time). And even so, upstairs it will always be cold because of no insulation in the walls/ceiling.

i got a bunch of those Frost King window insulators from Home Depot to better seal my windows but after opening one and seeing how thin the plastic is, i decided to go online and read some of the reviews. Ended up returning all of them because I doubt those would have added any insulation. Keep out drafts maybe...

The film is actually to increase the "R-value" of the window. They made us do a bunch of building science, temperature/humidity gradient analyses in school involving them. Essentially, they increase the thermal resistance of the window. Double or even triple-pane windows are still significantly better. It pisses me off seeing new office buildings and stores go up with all window walls that are single-paned; these are the same ones that fog up in the winter. The "remedy" is genius too: they put a radiator/space heater blowing at the window...
 
What you call a freezer is what I have my house set at all winter long (approximately 55°F). Then I use a space heater to get the room that I want to use warm. A brand new space heater around here can be as cheap as $12 to buy in winter (less in the rest of the year). Running it on full for one hour in a room costs me 10 cents. Double that in California for your expensive electricity. But then, it is going to be -6°F tomorrow here, you'll likely never need to run it for the full hour with 60°F days in San Diego.

If I read you right, you are saying that $12 + 20 cents a day for a few days a year is too much money for the comfort of your family?
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: rh71
I have a question along the same lines... I know if there are drafts, then you're losing heat in a sense. But what if the problem is thin windows... I don't feel a draft, but touching the thin glass, it's pretty much ice cold. Am I losing heat or otherwise not keeping the temperature optimal?

Does that above film actually help this or does it simply seal out leaks/drafts? I have been using plastic insulation that just blocks the windows entirely but it's not clear so it's an eyesore and of course we have to put it up / remove it every year.

No attic... but this problem exists at every window even downstairs (they're old and we're not planning on re-doing them since we may move at any time). And even so, upstairs it will always be cold because of no insulation in the walls/ceiling.

i got a bunch of those Frost King window insulators from Home Depot to better seal my windows but after opening one and seeing how thin the plastic is, i decided to go online and read some of the reviews. Ended up returning all of them because I doubt those would have added any insulation. Keep out drafts maybe...

I think my brand is Frost King too from Walmart - 1 layer is thick - I actually double up - you can't even see clearly through it. It has definitely helped with drafts and I figure it is like having a 2nd pane of glass, almost... as long as it is sealed nicely. Just too much work though.
 
Just seal the cracks between the window and wall with foam or a blanket or any type of logical insulation. This will make all of the difference in the world. If your wall itself feels cold to the touch then their may be a lack of insulation between them.
 
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