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It's because they're black (or hispanic!), right?

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mrjminer said:
Sorry, but I think the one that sounds uneducated is the one claiming this is fighting poverty rather than a social program aimed only at minorities while professing his belief in a secret societal conspiracy to hold people down at birth.



Oh, my apologies. I can't believe I missed that the article was about how people are being held down solely because they are white and how society is working together to stop white people from succeeding. Man, when I read that part about people being held responsible for their actions and how it was causing them to then take actions as individuals that they were then also held responsible for, I just couldn't believe it. Right on!
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You don't really get poverty.
 
Svnla said:
Asians is not a minority group? Honorable whites?
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Do poor Asian parents typically shun their kids education? No? Well I guess that may be why poor Asian kids don't typically fall into the same traps as other minorities.
 
rudder said:
Because the government provides their basic needs.... food, rent, healthcare. In an attempt to make their lives better the government spends money to attract development and "opportunities." Rather than seek out work or life improvements they sit in poverty waiting for it to happen.
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Nope.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...re-makes-america-more-entrepreneurial/388598/

Entrepreneurs are actually more likely than other Americans to receive public benefits, after accounting for income, as Harvard Business School’s Gareth Olds has documented. And in many cases, expanding benefit programs helps spur new business creation.
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Some of you need to stop bashing people who are on welfare.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...re-makes-america-more-entrepreneurial/388598/

I know, I know, you once "saw" a guy drinking a 2 liter Coke, while getting a tattoo, as he was smoking crack and posting a video on Youtube through his iPhone 6gs (which was plated in gold and diamonds) on how he just got his girlfriend her 8th abortion this week.

The reality is that the abuse in you "see" in your head does not equal the abuse in reality.
 
Newell Steamer said:
Some of you need to stop bashing people who are on welfare.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...re-makes-america-more-entrepreneurial/388598/

I know, I know, you once "saw" a guy drinking a 2 liter Coke, while getting a tattoo, as he was smoking crack and posting a video on Youtube through his iPhone 6gs (which was plated in gold and diamonds) on how he just got his girlfriend her 8th abortion this week.

The reality is that the abuse in you "see" in your head does not equal the abuse in reality.
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But if they're not abusing welfare then how am I supposed to look down upon them to make myself feel better about my own underwhelming life and lack of empathy?
 
Newell Steamer said:
Nope.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...re-makes-america-more-entrepreneurial/388598/
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Publicly funded insurance lowers the risk of starting a business, since entrepreneurs needn’t fear financial ruin.

Strange how now with obamacare... small business start ups are at historic lows.

I think this article is an example of skewing data to get the results the author wants while ignoring the history of past entrepreneurs.

There is a totally different dynamic between someone who is an entrepreneur and someone who is the second or third generation living off welfare.
 
thraashman said:
But if they're not abusing welfare then how am I supposed to look down upon them to make myself feel better about my own underwhelming life and lack of empathy?
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Sure doesn't seem to bother those of your ilk who look down upon recipients in red states who receive these benefits. So should you be empathic of their needs or just those who live in blue states?
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Sure doesn't seem to bother those of your ilk who look down upon recipients in red states who receive these benefits. So should you be empathic of their needs or just those who live in blue states?
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We look down on the red states for being hypocrites. Not because they get something from the system.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Sure doesn't seem to bother those of your ilk who look down upon recipients in red states who receive these benefits. So should you be empathic of their needs or just those who live in blue states?
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Personally, I don't look down on any person, period. As for those recipients in red states, I would look them straight in the eye and ask them why many of them keep voting against their own best interests, and why do they keep arguing that the government should leave them alone on the one hand (that's waving an AR-15 in the air), yet gladly put out the other hand palm up to rake in those gov't provided "benefits" they argue against at political rallies and other such public forums.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Sure doesn't seem to bother those of your ilk who look down upon recipients in red states who receive these benefits. So should you be empathic of their needs or just those who live in blue states?
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conservative republicans who receive federal benefits are hypocrites. that's not looking down on them, it's the truth.
 
tweaker2 said:
Personally, I don't look down on any person, period. As for those recipients in red states, I would look them straight in the eye and ask them why many of them keep voting against their own best interests, and why do they keep arguing that the government should leave them alone on the one hand (that's waving an AR-15 in the air), yet gladly put out the other hand palm up to rake in those gov't provided "benefits" they argue against at political rallies and other such public forums.
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What percentage of those who receive aid/welfare vote Republican? Democrat? Or vote at all? I have a feeling you will find that most tend to do the later or vote Democratic party candidate rather than for Republican party candidate.
 
alien42 said:
conservative republicans who receive federal benefits are hypocrites. that's not looking down on them, it's the truth.
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I'll agree with that however, what percentage of those who receive federal benefits in the red states are conservative republicans?
 
touchstone said:
Uh oh, Obama said something true. This won't go over well. Even people who dislike police brutality will be against this because: A) Obama said it, and B) It points out that racism still exists.
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Racism doesn't exist, minorities just make poor life choices. Clearly you didn't read the mrjminer's arguments.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
I'll agree with that however, what percentage of those who receive federal benefits in the red states are conservative republicans?
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i don't think it's going out on a limb to say the majority of agriculture subsidies are received by conservative republicans.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
What percentage of those who receive aid/welfare vote Republican? Democrat? Or vote at all? I have a feeling you will find that most tend to do the later or vote Democratic party candidate rather than for Republican party candidate.
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That's something that I could possibly agree with. I'll look into that. Thanks for mentioning it. :thumbsup:
 
Londo_Jowo said:
I'll agree with that however, what percentage of those who receive federal benefits in the red states are conservative republicans?
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This points to the level of intellectual dishonesty of those who can only think in terms of broad stereotypes and sweeping generalizations. Brain dead is brain dead.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
Let's examine your thought process...exactly how are red states being hypocrites?
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I dont have time to walk down this road with you.

This thread is pretty much about poverty. You dont like where that discussion goes because it goes against everything you stand for.

I dont have a solution to poverty but blaming the victims of it isnt the correct path.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
What percentage of those who receive aid/welfare vote Republican? Democrat? Or vote at all? I have a feeling you will find that most tend to do the later or vote Democratic party candidate rather than for Republican party candidate.
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If you have numbers on this I would like to see it, as you are likely wrong. Rural areas are huge sinks of federal funds, which is probably the reason.

In short, heavily republican states aren't net recipients of welfare funds because they have a disproportionately high level of democratic voters.
 
I recommend we have more sympathy for THE OTHER. All hatred of THE OTHER is based on the fact we were programmed to separate ourselves from THE OTHER, to despise the other when our programmers thought they were seeing THE OTHER in us. We always become what we fear. We crucified God by making Him THE OTHER and the Kingdom of Heaven is within. Imagine who clever we were hiding heaven in hell. If you believe you know something, forget it. If you have an opinion, it is worthless. The program if belief runs everything. Learn to be empty and die to the illusion of self.
 
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