Bitek
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Bull crap again.
Prices go down, people buy more because they have expendable income.
Instead of buying 1 TV, people buy one for every child.
Instead of not having children, or one child, couples have 2 or 3 children. What don't you understand that US couples are having less kids because everything is so expensive?
Deflation would have little to no effect on employment as people would buy more, spend more, buy in excess without credit and debt.
With inflation people sit at home watching TV, not spending any extra money because they have no extra money to spend.
That's the simpleton way of looking at it. You don't get to keep the wages at your present rates when everything else is falling also..
To quote myself from the France forms a new govt thread, where we argued this same nonsense.
You do! You believe deflation is good for regular folk (the debtors) and bad for the wealthy (the creditors)
This is exactly backwards! If I own your debt, the value of your debt increases continuously with deflation, meanwhile your wages will fall. You don't think you employer is going to want to pay you more every year, when he can fire you and then hire for less next year? What are typical raises? Inflation plus some %. If I is negative, then so is your raise.
So take your falling wages and try and repay my ever increasing debt note.. Even at a low interest I own your ass. Apply that to a fixed 30 yr mortgage. How expensive does that house payment look in 20 years with fixed payments and compounding wage decreases?
What are we in the middle of right now? A mortgage driven debt crisis where everyone is trying to save and pay down debt, not spend and take investment risks ( like building new factories and hiring workers)
Incentivizing sitting around and hoarding cash and silver is not going to bring back employment and prosperity. Cash needs to be put to work to get us out.
Look what was announced on Friday, the ECB, worried about deflation and stagnant growth are pledging to provide monetary stimulus to raise inflation expectations "as fast as possible"
FLORENCE Italy (Reuters) - Europe is not at risk of sliding into "full deflation" but the current rate of inflation is dangerously low, European Central Bank Vice President Vitor Constancio said on Saturday.
Many fear the euro zone, where annual inflation fell far short of the ECB's medium-term target in October, could be set for a Japanese-style lost decade of deflation and recession.
During a debate in central Italy, Constancio said he did not think "that in Europe there is the risk of falling into full deflation" because nominal salaries would have to fall in all member countries "and this cannot happen".
It was not immediately clear what he meant by "full deflation".
Constancio echoed a pledge made by ECB President Mario Draghi on Friday to take action to raise inflation, which ran at 0.4 percent in the single currency bloc last month.
"This has to be done with monetary policy," Constancio said when asked who should intervene to raise prices. "It is the ECB's responsibility."
But living with inflation so close to zero is dangerous in itself, Constancio said, because it makes it harder to repay public and private debt, and impedes economic growth.
He added that inflation measurement is often inaccurate and that if the reading is "close to zero, in reality it is already at minus one".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/22/us-ecb-constancio-idUSKCN0J60FJ20141122
Perhaps MF can use his amazing credentials to apply to the ECB lest they be led by fools and heretics. This tight money, low growth, deflationary economic policy led by the Germans had worked brilliantly so far. Shame a rogue Keynesian is about to destroy all their progress...
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