It's a Hit!!

Martin

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This little pissing contest is about as exciting and stupid as frat boys crushing beer cans on their foreheads.
 

sportage

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I don?t know about hitting that satellite, but my cat has been missing ever sense.
Darn the missile.
 
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Good, I'm glad it's finally over and that it will be out of the news. Of course, UFO conspiracy theorists will claim that they actually shot down a UFO and that it's evidence that the government has another Area 51 lab somewhere.
 
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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
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Looks like they nailed the sucker.

With it locked on the fucking signal it'd be a wonder if it missed, kinda like how the missile defense system only works if they put homing devices on their missiles, then 3/10 will still hit, no wonder you want several instances, you'll nee a few more, like 100 000 trillion dollars more to make it effective if you take the numbers to get to this poinst, it was dead in it's crib but i'be got goo news for you, there is not a country in this world with a functional missile defense system, the Russan system, it deploys only on a direct target, it cannat trace and intercept, so it works like the US system does but at a thrillionth of the deveopmpt cost.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Duddy
You watching Russia and China? You paying attention?
I think China already did this before the US, though the US did in 1989 from a plane at 80,000 feet take out one of its own satellites.

It's impressive something at mach 25-30 can be hit, I suppose, but on the other hand with all the money thrown at this I'm surprised it's not easier. This was clearly a weapons test or effort to prevent recapture of the satellite parts, though. Certainly a big difference between an easily tracked satellite and a fresh icbm. As john said, no country has a very good defense system at all.

 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Duddy
You watching Russia and China? You paying attention?
I think China already did this before the US, though the US did in 1989 from a plane at 80,000 feet take out one of its own satellites.

It's impressive something at mach 25-30 can be hit, I suppose, but on the other hand with all the money thrown at this I'm surprised it's not easier. This was clearly a weapons test or effort to prevent recapture of the satellite parts, though. Certainly a big difference between an easily tracked satellite and a fresh icbm. As john said, no country has a very good defense system at all.

Actually, this was HARDER than a ballistic missile because the satellite was much cooler than an ICBM would be having travelled through the atmosphere and burning fuel along the way (or upon reentry).

"Surprised it's not easier"?!? WTF do you want? Launching an interceptor from a moving platform (something the Chinese did NOT do) through the atmosphere 130 miles into space and striking a fairly cool target moving at 17,000 mph (according to MSNBC). The intercept took 24 minutes from launch to impact, and the radar system had to account for delays in tracking to guidance at those distances (yes, I realize there's terminal homing). It's often described as hitting a bullet with a bullet, but the reality is that the velocities exceed those of bullets.

I hate to break it to people around here, but guided missiles don't work like they do in Command & Conquer.

This was an amazing feat of engineering and should be a proud day for any American. Too bad there are few proud Americans anymore.

As for "no country has a very good defense system", perhaps some people around here would do well to actually read the news. The Missile Defense Agency conducted NINE successful hit to kill tests of missile defense systems in 2007, including a successful realistic test of an operationally configured ground-based interceptor against a ballistic missile target. There are a total of 45 (well, now 44 I suppose) ballistic missile interceptors deployed at Ft. Greeley, Vandenberg AFB, and on board Navy vessels. This satellite intercept once again proves that the system works, and the system is operationally deployed.

Let's hope we never have to use it, but that's part of the purpose. What's not in dispute, except by ostriches, is that it DOES work. Given the age of the Russian system deployed around Moscow plus their long standing budget issues, I would be highly surprised if their ABM radars work at all, let alone the possibility of actually launching a missile against a target.

Good going, USS Lake Erie!
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
I hate to break it to people around here, but guided missiles don't work like they do in Command & Conquer.

They're not paying attention. Too busy playing WoW or the next flavor of the month.

This was an amazing feat of engineering and should be a proud day for any American. Too bad there are few proud Americans anymore.

QFT. It's mindblowing people write off a success like this.

Good going, USS Lake Erie!

:thumbsup:
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Duddy
You watching Russia and China? You paying attention?
I think China already did this before the US, though the US did in 1989 from a plane at 80,000 feet take out one of its own satellites.

It's impressive something at mach 25-30 can be hit, I suppose, but on the other hand with all the money thrown at this I'm surprised it's not easier. This was clearly a weapons test or effort to prevent recapture of the satellite parts, though. Certainly a big difference between an easily tracked satellite and a fresh icbm. As john said, no country has a very good defense system at all.

The Chinese sent up a modified DF-21 with kinetic kill vehicle to blow up one of their weather satellites orbiting somewhere above 500 miles. That particular incident created a shitload of debris that isn't going anywhere soon.

Though I'm sure them and the Russians aren't too happy about our confirmed ability to take out satellites in low orbits with nothing more than a 20 year old guided missile cruiser carrying an upgraded computer/radar set.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: AndrewR

The intercept took 24 minutes from launch to impact





:confused:What? Did it stop and ask for directions?


Perhaps you forgot a decimal point.



Actually, launch to intercept took only 3 minutes.

 

1EZduzit

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I heard on the morning news that the Pentagon confirmed a direct hit with no debris being tracked bigger then a football.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: AndrewR

This was an amazing feat of engineering and should be a proud day for any American. Too bad there are few proud Americans anymore.

No, an amazing feat of engineering would have been for the satellite designers to build in a self-destruct feature so we don't have to go around shooting them down when they fail.

;)
 

GTaudiophile

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Duddy
You watching Russia and China? You paying attention?
I think China already did this before the US, though the US did in 1989 from a plane at 80,000 feet take out one of its own satellites.

WTF? Are you a tard or something? The US started knocking out satellites with ground-based missles (like China recently did) starting back in the late 1950s or so.

And I bet China would have had a lot less success had Clinton not given them secret guidance technology in exchange for campaign contributions. An act of treason if you ask me.



 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
And I bet China would have had a lot less success had Clinton not given them secret guidance technology in exchange for campaign contributions. An act of treason if you ask me.

Uh-oh, the proverbial can of worms has been opened :laugh:

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: AndrewR

This was an amazing feat of engineering and should be a proud day for any American. Too bad there are few proud Americans anymore.

No, an amazing feat of engineering would have been for the satellite designers to build in a self-destruct feature so we don't have to go around shooting them down when they fail.

;)
If they had been able to communicate with the satellite properly, there would have been no need to shoot it down.

Waht would suggest, put a timer on the satellite that if mother does not check on it within a certain time, explode?

 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Duddy
You watching Russia and China? You paying attention?
I think China already did this before the US, though the US did in 1989 from a plane at 80,000 feet take out one of its own satellites.
WTF? Are you a tard or something? The US started knocking out satellites with ground-based missles (like China recently did) starting back in the late 1950s or so.

And I bet China would have had a lot less success had Clinton not given them secret guidance technology in exchange for campaign contributions. An act of treason if you ask me.

Ouch ...... the fallout from your last statement is going to be painful.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Duddy
You watching Russia and China? You paying attention?
I think China already did this before the US, though the US did in 1989 from a plane at 80,000 feet take out one of its own satellites.

WTF? Are you a tard or something? The US started knocking out satellites with ground-based missles (like China recently did) starting back in the late 1950s or so.

And I bet China would have had a lot less success had Clinton not given them secret guidance technology in exchange for campaign contributions. An act of treason if you ask me.

Speaking of acts of treason... How about that unnecessary invasion of Iraq?

 

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