Italy's Populists Promising To Kick Out 500K Migrants

[Incorruptible]

The new government of Italy is promising to kick out 500,000 migrants. The people of Italy don't want them in the country and they are costing the country too much tax dollars. They have no right to be there. This is also a big screw you to the EU who is allowing these refugees into Europe. Hopefully other countries follow Italy and stand up for themselves.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...declare-want-kick-half-million-migrants-edge/

 

[feralkid]

You getting hard, Mister whitey?

 

[Indus]

Five Star emerged as the most popular single party but The League, in coalition with other centre-Right parties, won the most votes of any bloc.

The two parties promised a massive spending spree that will bring them into conflict with the EU’s strict budgetary rules.

They honoured election promises by calling for a flat tax of 15-20 per cent, a universal basic income of 780 euros a month for Italy’s jobless and poor, and the lowering of the pensionable age.



Lol they are quite progressive

 

[greatnoob]

Five Star emerged as the most popular single party but The League, in coalition with other centre-Right parties, won the most votes of any bloc.

The two parties promised a massive spending spree that will bring them into conflict with the EU’s strict budgetary rules.

They honoured election promises by calling for a flat tax of 15-20 per cent, a universal basic income of 780 euros a month for Italy’s jobless and poor, and the lowering of the pensionable age.



Lol they are quite progressive

Just goes to show how far gone the retarded right are in the US.

Maybe the US Army should invade Red states and completely bomb the Talibangelicals back to the stone age where they belong.
</Conservatard2001LogicForInvadingForeignCountries>

 

[BoomerD]

Good for the Italians. Why should the people be expected to support the migrants when so many of the natives are steuggling? (as is the Italian economy)

 

[Starbuck1975]

Just goes to show how far gone the retarded right are in the US.

Maybe the US Army should invade Red states and completely bomb the Talibangelicals back to the stone age where they belong.
</Conservatard2001LogicForInvadingForeignCountries>

The Army is primarily made up of people from red states, which also have a higher concentration of veterans. You could always volunteer!

 

[glenn1]

Good for the Italians. Why should the people be expected to support the migrants when so many of the natives are steuggling? (as is the Italian economy)

What with places like Japan and Australia already being famously adverse to immigrants, and Germany and now Italy governments at risk of being no confidenced on the back of immigration backlash, one wonders what country progressives are going to threaten to move to that actually still welcomes immigrants. Maybe they create their own micro nation that consists of them and the worlds
economic refugees.

 

[ivwshane]

Good for the Italians. Why should the people be expected to support the migrants when so many of the natives are steuggling? (as is the Italian economy)

Iron up that brown shirt, deplorable!

 

[Victorian Gray]

Iron up that brown shirt, deplorable!

He's an American, he gets a silver shirt.

https://northcarolinahistory.org/encyclopedia/william-dudley-pelley-1885-1965/

http://holocaustonline.org/silver-shirts/

 

[UNCjigga]

What with places like Japan and Australia already being famously adverse to immigrants, and Germany and now Italy governments at risk of being no confidenced on the back of immigration backlash, one wonders what country progressives are going to threaten to move to that actually still welcomes immigrants. Maybe they create their own micro nation that consists of them and the worlds
economic refugees.

2015 saw the highest number of displaced persons since World War II. Unfortunately, it's pretty easy to convince people to get on a small raft when the Italian shore isn't that far off the coast of Libya. As bad as you think the Mexican/Central American illegal immigration problem is, we are so lucky to be far, far away from the Middle East and Africa.

 

[greatnoob]

The Army is primarily made up of people from red states, which also have a higher concentration of veterans. You could always volunteer!

Well they’re in the army for a reason, so “bomb your own state into oblivion” should be answered with a jolly “sir, yes sir.” You don’t doubt your superiors and you do what you’re told without question... or something like that

 

[PingviN]

2015 saw the highest number of displaced persons since World War II. Unfortunately, it's pretty easy to convince people to get on a small raft when the Italian shore isn't that far off the coast of Libya. As bad as you think the Mexican/Central American illegal immigration problem is, we are so lucky to be far, far away from the Middle East and Africa.

Especially when you barely need to get off the coast to get picked up by a "rescue" boat and be sent all the way to Europe.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Especially when you barely need to get off the coast to get picked up by a "rescue" boat and be sent all the way to Europe.

REFUGEE DEATHS IN MEDITERRANEAN

• 2013 - 700
• 2014 - 3,279
• 2015 - 3,784
• 2016 - 5,143
• January 1 to September 13, 2017 - 3,262

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...icker-rate-mediterranean-170917035605080.html

This year there have been aprox. 802 dead/missing so far.

https://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/mediterranean

Yeah, it's like a Disney ride for them.

 

[PingviN]

REFUGEE DEATHS IN MEDITERRANEAN

• 2013 - 700
• 2014 - 3,279
• 2015 - 3,784
• 2016 - 5,143
• January 1 to September 13, 2017 - 3,262

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...icker-rate-mediterranean-170917035605080.html

This year there have been aprox. 802 dead/missing so far.

https://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/mediterranean

Yeah, it's like a Disney ride for them.

You barely need to get off the coast of Libya. I don't doubt for a second the trip is still dangerous (even more so if you get on an over-crowded raft and you can't swim). I never claimed it was some sort of joy ride (that's your strawman). I made the accurate claim that "rescues" (which really is more like smuggling) happens just outside the coast of Libya where you get picked up and shipped right up to Italy, instead of back to Libya.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Well they’re in the army for a reason, so “bomb your own state into oblivion” should be answered with a jolly “sir, yes sir.” You don’t doubt your superiors and you do what you’re told without question... or something like that

That’s not how it works, but not surprising that is your perception of service, or that you want other people to fight your fight for you.

 

[Starbuck1975]

You barely need to get off the coast of Libya. I don't doubt for a second the trip is still dangerous (even more so if you get on an over-crowded raft and you can't swim). I never claimed it was some sort of joy ride (that's your strawman). I made the accurate claim that "rescues" (which really is more like smuggling) happens just outside the coast of Libya where you get picked up and shipped right up to Italy, instead of back to Libya.

This really is what the EU needs to resolve. You have humanitarian vessels flying the flag of other EU nations providing a ferry service to Italy, which is causing more people to take greater risks. They’re not trying to get to land, they only need to get the attention of the ships they see just off the coast in international waters.

 

[KMFJD]

Iron up that brown shirt, deplorable!

600,000 economic migrants in the last 4 years leaching resources on an already ify economy would do that, especially since those numbers aren't slowing down.

 

[greatnoob]

That’s not how it works, but not surprising that is your perception of service, or that you want other people to fight your fight for you.

Yup, that’s conservative logic for you, makes no sense. You can also add that civilian deaths are “just a fact of war” and that you are just protecting your nations interest from foreign powers by invading red states. Equally stupid, but nonetheless true for Afghanistan, Iraq, [other foreign countries here] and so it should be here too.

 

[boomerang]

Maybe the US Army should invade Red states and completely bomb the Talibangelicals back to the stone age where they belong.

Grow a pair, join up and fight that battle right beside them. Enough of the talk, lets see some action out of you.

 

[umbrella39]

Less than ZFG... Yet another 3rd world refugee who wants to be an American crying about more non-American issues again...

 

[ivwshane]

600,000 economic migrants in the last 4 years leaching resources on an already ify economy would do that, especially since those numbers aren't slowing down.

Considering italy's aging population and lowering native population growth, it would seem that an influx of immigrants would be a good thing for a struggling economy and not a bad thing. Or are you of the opinion that as people get older and their productivity go down, the economy improves?

 

[cytg111]

Italy is taking the front of the hit coming overseas.. And EU should support them and EU is and will continue to do so. Current talks point towards asylum centers in north africa.. If/when detained they are going back and have their cases tried there... This will likely be the model for all EU members.

 

[KMFJD]

Italy is taking the front of the hit coming overseas.. And EU should support them and EU is and will continue to do so. Current talks point towards asylum centers in north africa.. If/when detained they are going back and have their cases tried there... This will likely be the model for all EU members.

Ah the Australian model....

 

[UNCjigga]

So, because this is P&N and we love debate, I will pose a question. Given the current humanitarian crisis with an ongoing civil war in Libya, and the "strain" of migrants on Italy's economy, at what point does it become more feasible for Italy to annex Libya, declare it an overseas territory, install a functioning government, and deport all Libyan migrants (since the fall of Qaddafi) back to Libya? When does that become the more humanitarian solution, given the lives that would be likely lost in the attempt to gain control?

At what point should the EU consider similar action in Syria? What implications would that have for Russia, Iran, etc.?

 

[KMFJD]

Considering italy's aging population and lowering native population growth, it would seem that an influx of immigrants would be a good thing for a struggling economy and not a bad thing. Or are you of the opinion that as people get older and their productivity go down, the economy improves?

I've got no issues with immigration, but what's happening in the Mediterranean is a problem.