It Was Twenty Years Ago Today...

WombatWoman

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As expected, there is much boohooing and wringing of hands today in observance of the anniversary of John Lennon's martyrdom. Amid all the worshipful candlelight processions and solemn ceremonies there are very few who remember this troubled, gifted man as he truly was: an artist who prostituted his art, a philosopher who helped to lead an entire generation to find their truths in drugs, a political agitator whose main focus was always himself, not the supposed huddled masses whose "Working Class Hero" he imagined himself to be.

I miss the man's music and humour, but I can't say I miss the man. His death, while unfortunate, was scarcely a hero's death. He was shot outside his palatial condo by a crackpot loser. Sad, but not as sad, for instance, as the death of Marvin Gaye.

Of all the many press releases on this day, I could find only one which contained even mild criticism of Lennon's politics. How quickly we whitewash our cultural saints.

Here is an excerpt from the one news item that I have seen which dares to mention a rather discomfiting fact: that Lennon is now being lionized in Communist Cuba. I would speculate that sales of Lennon albums have probably taken a sharp dip in Miami.

Once-Shunned Lennon Now Feted in Communist Cuba

HAVANA (Reuters) - Communist-run Cuba came full circle on Friday to fete John Lennon, whose music was once frowned on as a decadent Western influence, as a "revolutionary" hero.

Official honors for the Beatles star on the 20th anniversary of his death included a documentary by President Fidel Castro's personal cameraman, the unveiling of a bronze statue of Lennon in a Havana park and an open-air concert planned for Friday evening.

...Friday's honors were intended to "integrate Lennon into the patrimony of the cultural values that our people admire and respect," an official statement said.

...Communist Party daily Granma last year included the Beatles on a list of the most "relevant" figures of the 20th century, below Castro, Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, and Argentine-born guerrilla Ernesto "Che" Guevara.
 

Isla

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<< It Was Twenty Years Ago Today >>




....Sargeant Pepper Taught the Band to Play!


(Goodness, I couldn't help myself! I know nothing about politics, but I do like that song. Now I will have to listen to the Beatles all night. :) )
 

ltk007

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LOL Isla


And great post WW. While I may or may not agree with you (cough may not cough ;)) I do think its good to see things from a different light every now and then. Then again, I'm probably wrong. I wasn't around back then ya know :p
 

ultravox

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Why do you think that he prostituted his art? Because he was succesful and made a fortune ? He was a political agitator but I think he had good reason to be....remember Vietnam, Watergate, Kent State and all the other legacys our generation lived through...

BTW..good to see you up and about....I do so love to disagree with you however infrequently that it happens.. ;)

edit: I also do not feel he led a generation into self discovery through drugs..he merely made the experience that much more enjoyable.
 

Optimus

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Well said, WW - I happen to agree.
Actually, any celebrity-worship gets me annoyed...

John Lennon: Great musician, seemed like a decent fellow. Not a martyr, not a hero. Wacky politics.
I'm sorry a nutjob killed him - no one deserves that! :(
 

UG

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WW;

The idolization of dead people, based on opportunistic, retro-inflation of their actual accomplishments, is an age-old practice. ;)

Good to see you, Den Mom. You really musn't stay away so much. The mods do their best, but they just can't fill your bra...err, I mean your shoes. :eek:

;)

 

ultravox

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&quot;The idolization of dead people, based on opportunistic, retro-inflation of their actual accomplishments, is an age-old practice. &quot;

You should know eh UG....:D
 

hopefloats

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Through music and political activism, John Lennon?s lasting legacy will always be the message of peace. For his efforts he was despised by then President Richard Nixon and under constant surveillance by J.Edgar Hoover?s FBI. John Lennon was also one of the few men of my generation who used his enormous wealth and power to actually try to make a difference. I don?t have many heroes on this planet? but John Lennon is one of them simply because he tried when so many others that can, don?t.

Scary though that 20 years of my life have zoomed by so quickly. :Q
 

UG

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Ultravox;

<...You should know, eh, UG...>

Hey, I'm not dead, yet. It's permissible. ;)

Besides, I'm somewhat younger than even you. :D

 

WoundedWallet

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I have only admiration for a man that took five years off his career to raise his kid.

I have only admiration for a poet that dared to point out that there is no heaven.

I have only admiration for a human being that became almost as popular as Jesus.

But I'm still very confused on why in this world he he picked Yoko to be his mate.

I miss the dream.
 

sweetrobin

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I was only 3 and a half when he died ... so I dont remember it ... but I have heard the same stuff that WW is discussing and it sounds plausible to me
 

Isla

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<< But I'm still very confused on why in this world he he picked Yoko to be his mate. >>



ROTFLMAO, WoundedWallet!

Thanks! :D :D :D
 

64bitloopy

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In the words of Tesco Vee,



<< One Down...Three to Go >>




He's only idolized because he's dead. There were many others like him that didn't die that we forget about, or don't care to mention.

In another mans words




<< And if there's any hope for America, it lies in a rebolution, and if there's any hope for a revolution in America, it lies in getting Elvis Presley to become Che Guevara. >>