"It was the moderates" The cry continues....

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: techs
Title: "It was the moderates" The cry continues....

McCain, being the moderate pro-government Republican that he is, was not conservative enough for me to vote for. I did not vote for him. So yes, he and other moderates are the reason the Republican Party lost the election.

If they want to cling to the Democrat?s ideals, they can join your party.

Fine. We'll be happy to take John McCain and you can have your Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and Strom Thurmond.

With all due respect to Mrs. Palin, O'Reilly doesn't belong in the same sentence with her.

^^ Truth. I heard more praise for Obama than McCain from O'Reilly this election cycle. O'Reilly asked hard questions, but he was fair as far as I can tell.

O'Reilly has moved towards the center, whereas Palin, Rush, and the rest of the far-right whackos have stayed hard right or moved even further right.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: techs
Title: "It was the moderates" The cry continues....

McCain, being the moderate pro-government Republican that he is, was not conservative enough for me to vote for. I did not vote for him. So yes, he and other moderates are the reason the Republican Party lost the election.

If they want to cling to the Democrat?s ideals, they can join your party.

That's fair from your perspective, but remember, if a further-right candidate appears, the moderates and independents will largely stay away, and I'd bet the numbers in a general election would be even worse than McCain fared.

Now if Obama screws everything up, all bets are off, but I'm going with O'Reilly's estimate of Obama as a Clinton-mold pragmatist, with slightly higher ambition.

If a '90s-era Gingrich/COA Republican congressional balance is restored in '10, look for some great success.
 

Polish3d

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Man the GOP better get their shit together. I'm not voting for them until the absurdly moronic evangelical wing which regards intellectualism as a fault is expunged or substantially marginalized. Right now, they offer NOTHING of value and a lot that is undesirable [high spending, stagnating corruption, bullshit foreign policy, a grossly arrogant and hatefilled evangelicalism]. Basically everything negative about the south.
 

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Originally posted by: Polish3d
Man the GOP better get their shit together. I'm not voting for them until the absurdly moronic evangelical wing which regards intellectualism as a fault is expunged or substantially marginalized. Right now, they offer NOTHING of value and a lot that is undesirable [high spending, stagnating corruption, bullshit foreign policy, a grossly arrogant and hatefilled evangelicalism]. Basically everything negative about the south.

The evangelical wing was the part of the party calling for higher spending?!?! :roll:
 

Polish3d

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They allow the Republicans to retain power while being total fuckups in governance so long as their two or three (gay, abortion) issues are taken care of