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IT skills being blackmailed - what would you do?

spikespiegal

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I know a lot of people in the IT field have been in a similiar situation, so I thought my current situation might help others here. What to do when your IT skills are blackmailed via a much lower job position.

Like a lot of people I do all types of IT contract work during the day, and part time work at night. Night job is a floor manager in the service/entertainment industry, but it's a family business and not a chain. One of the owners has set up a network/computer infrastructure well beyond his ability to support, and I'm constantly being nagged to help fix his messes. Stuff well beyond 'install a driver' stuff, and tasks I charge $50-100 per hour via typical IT contract work.If you've ever worked for a family business and had to fix IT messes the owner's kid created because daddy over-estimate their intelligence, you have a fair idea where I'm coming from.

I considered this annoyance at first, but given the bad economy I'm forced to stick with the night job given things are so slow during the day. However, when one of the owner's made a subtle threat to my job if didn't help with constantly reparing their SQL database (at my night Managers salary), I got a little nervous.

Friend of my mine who has some legal experience with labor laws (and also makes My Cousin Vinny look like Michael Clayton) gave me some advice.

Bad news: It' called At Will Termination if they choose to fire you for whatever.
Good news: IT skills are now a defined skill set like electrician, plumber, etc., and are well outside an assumed 'reasonable job expectation' of what you do. Threatening your job could fall under the definition of Extortion, and get an employer into a lot of trouble. Depends on far you're willing to take it and how savy your lawyer is, but it *is* Extortion.

Comments? Is Vinny full of it? What would you do?
 

xeemzor

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Rather than fight your employer, see if you can spin it off as a way to get an increase in pay. Offer to assume a *specific* set of duties for the pay bump and everyone wins.
 

oiprocs

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I'd get a second opinion from another lawyer to see if it is worth pushing.

If not, then I suggest you find a different night job.
 

KK

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so what happens if they give you the title of IT/Floor manager, with no pay raise. Would you stick around?
 

spikespiegal

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Rather than fight your employer, see if you can spin it off as a way to get an increase in pay

Tried - they won't have it.


Nah, just makes my job and the other managers jobs harder. I have ethics, but I'm sure others would retaliate with stolen credit card transactions, etc.
 

iGas

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What do you mean by constantly repairing SQL database?
Data base doesn't randomly breaks unless you roll out patches with out testing it first.
IMHO, there are people that shouldn't have OP privileges that messes around with such things as form & printer settings.
 

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I'm glad I went into development... I'm so out of the loop now that I can honestly say I don't know how to fix your computer.
 

spikespiegal

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so what happens if they give you the title of IT/Floor manager, with no pay raise

The same thing I'd do if they gave me the title of Electrician / Floor manager. Give them a contract to sign. They don't want me to quit and *aren't looking a for a reason to get rid of me. Just a way to force/threaten me to fix their messes.

What do you mean by constantly repairing SQL database?

They're having an issue with table extents and database fragmentation causing huge point of sale delays. Rather than pay the vendor $$$ to fix the mess they created, it's cheaper to have me keep it running via rebuilds. That's one of a 100 different issues under then same scenario.

Playing stupid has worked so far, but threatening/hostile messages on my voicemail from the owner could stop at any time, thank you.

I don't know how to fix your computer.

I see you point :) ..but the stuff I'm fixing tends to go past Geek Squad excuses.
 

Ns1

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GTFO and then tell bill them for IT contract work

It's clear they are over their head.

A few days of their sql db being fubared (which evidently fubars their POS system) and they will shape up nicely.
 
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Do you enjoy your job? Does fixing the 'puter problems cause you to work extra hours there?

Do you enjoy the people you work with?

 

skillyho

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Originally posted by: Ns1
GTFO and then tell bill them for IT contract work

It's clear they are over their head.

A few days of their sql db being fubared (which evidently fubars their POS system) and they will shape up nicely.

Pretty much that.
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: Ns1
GTFO and then tell bill them for IT contract work

It's clear they are over their head.

A few days of their sql db being fubared (which evidently fubars their POS system) and they will shape up nicely.

This.
 

Fritzo

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I've been there. I just said "this isn't in my job description, but you could contract me out to do the job."

Know what? It worked :) Got paid + made extra contract money.
 

DaveSimmons

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Vinny's "Extortion" BS makes me :roll:

This is one reason why you build up several month's worth of living expenses in a high-interest savings account, so you can afford to say "pay me double for this work or get someone else" and be perfectly willing to have them fire you.
 

spikespiegal

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A few days of their sql db being fubared (which evidently fubars their POS system) and they will shape up nicely.

Oh, it does...trust me :) Nothing like a single credit card transaction causing their entire POS to belly up on a busy Friday night. Only reason I've kind of fixed it in the past is I really, really like the staff I work with and their jobs get intolerable when I don't intervene. Kick the rebuild out to a RAM disk on the fly and I have the system back up in a couple minutes - nuke the RAM disk and they can't see what I did :)

Owners during the day takes them an hour or more to fix things. So, they *are* clearly over their head and frustrated that not only am I the only one capable of fixing things, I'm doing it in such a manner they can't mimmick me.

I'll try the contract route and see what happens. At the worst, if I get fired, they'll have a hard time fighting me with unemployment.
 

Red Squirrel

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That's one thing I can't stand in IT, systems that are super crappy either because the software just sucks, or because it's so badly maintained and/or organized that it's just falling apart.

We have a few customers like this and it drives me up the wall trying to figuring out some of the most messed up problems, that if they redid from 0 they would not happen in first place. Stuff like word perfect not opening, or some certain document not printing. That's what happens when you use crappy software in a crappy environment.
 

Perknose

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DOCUMENT everything that happens from here on in, in every single way you can possibly do so.
 

finite automaton

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Dammit, I underestimated how much cheese I was going to need for this thread. I'll be back, don't anybody go anywhere!
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: finite automaton
Dammit, I underestimated how much cheese I was going to need for this thread. I'll be back, don't anybody go anywhere!

Oh, sure, don't ask US if we want any! :roll:
 

child of wonder

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Blackmail him back. Copy the SQL database then delete it from the server and all backups. Sell it back for $15,000. lol
 

soydios

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Originally posted by: child of wonder
Blackmail him back. Copy the SQL database then delete it from the server and all backups. Sell it back for $15,000. lol

because that's nowhere near as illegal and unethical as what his employer is doing to him